Rugby Star Slapped Down for Pro Christian/Anti Gay Comments

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    Lessee, guy gets fired from his job for expressing his millennia-old christian beliefs held the world over by more people than anything, his moral-bound christian duty, and Pogo asks: "Where did anyone curtail his religious rights?"

    Gee, who could've seen it coming, another deliberately obtuse and circuitous line of questioning from a person who never himself answers a single question.

    A better question would be to ask how a baker not wishing to bake an offensive cake curtailed any of the rights or life of a gay couple who had 10,000 other bakeries to go to instead?

    Yet the government (Eric Holder) sued them and tried to close their business!
     
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    90% of daily violence happens in towns run by democrats.. it’s your speech not ours
     
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    Fine with me. I will have my ear plugs in due to the crying baby that comes standard on every flight.
     
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    Correct. And I'm not seeing an answer.

    I'm not seeing Rugby Australia, or any other entity, preventing this guy from following whatever religious precepts he wants to. I'm not seeing any entity demanding he follow one religious course or not follow another. That's why I asked. It was after all your idea.

    Are you trying to tell us that he, or people in general, have a "right" to a job no matter what? What are you, some kind of socialist?

    I also asked if you knew what a morals clause is. Then, assuming the negative, I explained it. No response to that either. Yanno what, let's just pretend it's not there. Hell, let's pretend that professional athletes don't even have contracts. They just play for free.
     
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    It is in the NFL team guideline that players salute the flag and pledge of allegiance, yet I don't see any player getting fired for kneeling. When you get fired from your job for merely expressing your own religious views, when bakers are sued by the government and tried to close them out of business because they found a request offensive, you are being discriminated against. No different than being fired for being old, or black or a woman. The message is clear, Christianity is NOT welcome, Christianity is under attack all over, so much so to the point that when getting in office, Trump expressly said he would work to reverse much of those efforts in this country, but speak it in Australia at least, and you now do so at your own risk.

    Say anything you want as a Black.
    Say anything you want as a Muslim.
    Say anything you want as a Gay.
    But don't you dare speak out on behalf of the Christian faith while representing or working under any kind of secular organization. They will stomp you like a bug.

    Sorry if the discrimination, prejudice and bias in all that somehow escapes you, but then, most things somehow do.
     
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    Actually no, it isn't, but it's irrelevant anyway as we're dealing with "immoral" behaviour, i.e. in this context, that which would cast the employer (team) in a negative light. Kneelling does not meet that test. And it especially doesn't meet that test when the whole team including the owner is doing it in a gesture of patriotic solidarity.

    Perhaps. But again, irrelevant here, same reason. Not present.

    Tell the class how this rugby player is being "prevented" from exercising his religion. Or how he's being forced to follow a different one against his will. That was and still is the question.


    Yeah, "no different". I woke up today and decided, "hey, I think I'll be old today" . SMH



    :lol: :eusa_boohoo:

    Better get on those questions. They're getting moldy for lack of activity.
     
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    I don't know if you are a fan of any American sports, but athletes are often fined or penalized or even fired for their off-the-field behavior. Things completely unrelated to the team or sport an athlete is part of can and do get them fired. And as the article I linked to earlier stated, this was not a one time event; apparently this particular rugby player had multiple instances of posting things to social media that the league felt violated their codes of conduct, and the player was warned on multiple occasions before being let go.
     
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