Romoney's lies about job growth under Obama

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    In the second Presidential debate, Romoney tried once again to claim that American jobs were declining under the Obama administration.

    The Republican spin and deception on this issue is astonishing....but quite predictable too.

    Check out this chart below from The Federal Reserve Bank in St. Louis and ask yourself if this looks like a downward trend in job numbers to YOU?

    For reasons that have nothing to do with reality and everything to do with partisan election politics, Romoney and the rightwingnut media echo chamber would claim that this chart does show a job loss under Obama.

    So is Romoney right about job numbers declining since Obama took office??? Or is the context of what had been happening to the economy under Bush before Obama took office somehow important to consider if you want to actually understand the situation and not just score bogus political points???

    Remember Obama came into office with the economy in the tank, the banking system and the auto industry about to collapse, and unemployment already skyrocketing* after eight years of Bush Admin. mismanagement that had taken the country from a $230 billion dollar surplus when Clinton left office to a $1.3 trillion dollar deficit when Bush left office. It takes a while to turn the economy around and recover after a train wreck like Bush left behind but quite obviously progress is being made on recovery. If the corrupt republican greed freaks and plutocratic power trippers get back into control, expect to see this chart in the coming years look even worse than it looks here in 2009. The ride will be a lot rougher than the Bush years. If Romoney and Lyin' Ryan win, expect to see more wars in the Mideast, huge gas price hikes, more tax cuts for the super rich and the corporations, higher taxes for the middle class and even the poor, more profitable (for them) destruction of the economy and exporting of jobs, a ban on legal abortion and suppression of the availability of contraception supplies and information, more assaults on everyone's freedoms and rights, more packing the judiciary with far right wing ideologues which means more twisting of the laws to favor the top 1% at the expense of the rest of us. Give Obama a chance and the recovery seen here will continue and grow stronger. Let's give him a majority in the House and a 60 plus majority in the Senate while we're at it and the things we need to happen to grow our economy and compete in the global market can get done without all of the organized Republican obstructionism that we've all seen for the last four years. The right wing has shown a willingness to see the country go down the tubes rather than let Obama accomplish anything. In spite of that, he's accomplished quite a lot.

    * "unemployment already skyrocketing" - FactCheck.org reports this:
    Repeated Job Loss Claim - Romney's claim that Obama "stood watch over the greatest job loss in modern American history" is also wrong, as we've noted before. The truth is more jobs were lost under Bush than Obama, and most of the jobs lost since he took office have now been regained. Since we wrote about this last year, the BLS has revised its statistics slightly for improved accuracy, as it does every year. The latest data show that "total nonfarm employment" (the standard measure of jobs) declined by nearly 8.8 million between its most recent peak in January 2008 and when the job slump bottomed out more than two years later, in February 2010. Of those lost jobs, nearly 4.5 million disappeared while Bush was president, and just over 4.3 million vanished during Obama's first 13 months in office. And since the job totals hit bottom there have been slow and steady gains, totaling nearly 3.6 million jobs. The total for March (released April 6) stood just 740,000 short of where it was in January 2009 when Obama was inaugurated.


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    Did you look at your own numbers? the steep incline isnt really that much it's a whopping 4000 jobs out of 111000, show it from 0........and you wont see much growth at all....which is exactally the truth
     
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    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.......oh lord, you rightwing nutjobs.....did you really think that a chart of US jobs would show us having only "111000" people employed in the whole country???......LOLOLOLOL.....try actually looking at the chart, you poor retard, and you will see along the left side a notation that the numbers shown are in 'thousands'.....so the growth is close to 4 million jobs, not "4000"......get a clue, dufus.....
     
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    So what your saying is he lost them before he created them, when Maobama took office unemployment was 7.8%, today 7.9%, millions have left the work force and fewer people are working than the day he took offce. So who is trying to decieve who? Have another glass of kool aid and relax.
     
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    A few more facts that challenge the rightwing myths and lies.

    Strong Job Figures Belie Romney’s Attacks
    The New Yorker
    Posted by John Cassidy
    November 2, 2012
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    According to the Labor Department’s October employment report, 171,000 new jobs were added last month—the highest figure since February. The new positions were spread throughout the economy, with retailing (plus 36,000), health care (plus 31,000), and business services (plus 51,000) showing particular strength. The only big group of employers that shed workers were state and local governments (minus 13,000) which are still being hit by budget cuts.

    Over the past year, the total number of people employed has risen from 140.3 million to 143.4 million, according to the household survey. After allowing for population growth, the number of people unemployed has fallen by a million, and the number working part-time or no longer actively looking for work has dropped by about half a million. The number of people who have been out of work for more than six months—the hard-core unemployed—has fallen by more than eight hundred thousand, and it now stands at five million.

     
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    Technically, Romney is correct.

    But it's wildly out of context. UE went up to 10% before the stimulus was passed. After that UE went down.
     
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    Yeah... There are Millions of jobs out there for those who are unemployed. :lol: You O-bots need to ease off the pills you're strung out on.
     

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