Romney or Santorum...who do the Dems want?

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Romney or Santorum...who do the Dems want to run against Obama. Gingrich is all but gone. But Santorum is picking up money and momentum. Who would the Dems rather see as the GOP nominee?

If they are smart they won't want either, both are the same. They are the same as Obama.

Well, maybe they aren't that smart.

Ron Paul Stands for American Values, ie the Constitution which our claim to liberty under God is based.

The establishment runners like listed and Obama all work for the powers our founder Fathers fought at our birth. They will promote the same agenda the power elite want for the NWO they seek.

Ron Paul is the only one who believes in the Constitution and the ideas of Liberty for our nation against the same evil ruling class we started this place fighting against in the first place.

Can you understand that idea? We are all being double teamed. Old trick, still works well, even today.

Hegelian dialectic, two forces aligned against one another. One is thesis, the other antithesis.

The conflict will produce a synthesis; in this case, the loss of national sovereignty and the end of freedom
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Left vs Right...I think not!!!!
 
Under the right economic conditions, Romney could win

Santorum is unelectable



I really don't think Santorum is electable. He is an exteme that might appeal to the Far Right of the GOP, but not the general. Romney has the best chance to beat Obama. So I expect most Dems are rooting for Santorum.

I was rooting for Newt until I had a nightmare that he won...


Yep.... you guys keep rooting for Romney.

That is a sure sign Santorum scares the shit out of ya'll.

He will mop the floor with the Marxist in Chief.

Maybe 20 years ago, but not now. Santorum's views will not allow him to win the general. I think he is probably a good conservative, but his time has past.


He is, and thats why he will do good...... I hope
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Yep.... you guys keep rooting for Romney.

That is a sure sign Santorum scares the shit out of ya'll.

He will mop the floor with the Marxist in Chief.

Maybe 20 years ago, but not now. Santorum's views will not allow him to win the general. I think he is probably a good conservative, but his time has past.


He is, and thats why he will do good...... I hope
:eusa_pray:


Do you seriously think that someone who claims a rape-induced pregnancy is a gift from God is going to have a chance to win the presidency?

Really?

I'm asking seriously. It's statements like that from him which have made me decide to start getting used to four more years of Obama.

Coz I think there's a really good chance Santorum could get the nomination, but I can't get my mind around someone who talks like that winning more than 45% of the vote in the general.

I'm not giving up on Santorum entirely, but I'm bracing myself for what I expect the result of his nomination most likely will be.
 
Maybe 20 years ago, but not now. Santorum's views will not allow him to win the general. I think he is probably a good conservative, but his time has past.


He is, and thats why he will do good...... I hope
:eusa_pray:


Do you seriously think that someone who claims a rape-induced pregnancy is a gift from God is going to have a chance to win the presidency?

Really?

I'm asking seriously. It's statements like that from him which have made me decide to start getting used to four more years of Obama.

Coz I think there's a really good chance Santorum could get the nomination, but I can't get my mind around someone who talks like that winning more than 45% of the vote in the general.

I'm not giving up on Santorum entirely, but I'm bracing myself for what I expect the result of his nomination most likely will be.

There is absolutely no doubt in the mind of this average Joe that Ricky would put the interests of his religion above the interests of America at large.

There was a time when an evangelical position could describe 'America at large', but not any more. I'm liking the continuing trend of religion being less and less relevant on this planet.
 
Romney or Santorum...who do the Dems want to run against Obama. Gingrich is all but gone. But Santorum is picking up money and momentum. Who would the Dems rather see as the GOP nominee?

They've said Newt's campaign was gone on 3 different occasions--only to watch him go up in the polls 3 times. So I really wouldn't count him out yet.

But it's clear who the Democrats want as the GOP nominee--(Mitt Romney). They have planned this for months. Nancy Pelosi has all but endorsed Romney when she is sent out of her closet--(every time Newt's poll numbers go up--:lol:) to say she knows "secrets "about Newt Gingrich.

Guaranteed they know a lot more secrets about Bain Capital and Swiss and Cayman island bank accounts than you can shake a stick at. They plan on tattooing Romney's forehead with rich Wall Street top 1%er with Swiss and Cayman Island bank accounts. And the candidate the democrats really don't want to face is Newt Gingrich.
 
I really don't think Santorum is electable. He is an exteme that might appeal to the Far Right of the GOP, but not the general. Romney has the best chance to beat Obama. So I expect most Dems are rooting for Santorum.

I was rooting for Newt until I had a nightmare that he won...

Santorum's positions on social issues is the same as Reagan's, Bush-41 and Bush-43. All guys who won pretty easily.

You think so? No, I think Santorum is WAY over the edge...

Rick Santorum thinks pregnancy through rape is God's gift? Seriously? | Kate Harding | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

Not going to go by mischaracterizations of what he said as evidence.

If you want to have an honest discussion about what he said, that's a different issue.

If you accept the unborn are human life (which, by the way, you can make an atheistic argument to that effect), then is it right to murder a person for the crime committed by his father?

Now, personally, I think abortion should be legal because making it illegal would be a practical impossibility. But if that is your point of view,t hat a fetus is a human life, is killing it for ANY reason short of protecting the life of the mother anything but murder?
 
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Under the right economic conditions, Romney could win

Santorum is unelectable

I want Romney.

Not because he is easier to beat, but because I care about America.

Santorum would really hurt America.

I really don't think Santorum is electable. He is an exteme that might appeal to the Far Right of the GOP, but not the general. Romney has the best chance to beat Obama. So I expect most Dems are rooting for Santorum.

I was rooting for Newt until I had a nightmare that he won...


Yep.... you guys keep rooting for Romney.

That is a sure sign Santorum scares the shit out of ya'll.

He will mop the floor with the Marxist in Chief.

Doesn't scare the shit out of anybody. All the Dems want Santorum to win because Obama will walk into the White House....
 
It all comes down to will the right vote for Romney. And will they show up in droves, because the GOP is going to need every vote they can get. We know evangelicals will sit it out if Romney's the nominee. Santorum doesn't have a chance in hell. He's just the new Newt, Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Trump.

The right also needs us not to show up for Obama. So they will make an issue out of everything between now and election day. Like this contraception thing. Its just the GOP trying to control the message and steal votes with god, gays and guns. Same old tired playbook. They don't realize that just like social security, people like their right to choose.

But neither Romney or Santorum are electable. The next GOP President is going to have to be pro choice. He's going to have to tell the religious right that women have the right to choose. Reagan was pro choice. He wouldn't even win the GOP nomination.

Romney's stance on abortion makes him unacceptable to moderates and independants.
 
Romney or Santorum...who do the Dems want to run against Obama. Gingrich is all but gone. But Santorum is picking up money and momentum. Who would the Dems rather see as the GOP nominee?

If they are smart they won't want either, both are the same. They are the same as Obama.

Well, maybe they aren't that smart.

Ron Paul Stands for American Values, ie the Constitution which our claim to liberty under God is based.

The establishment runners like listed and Obama all work for the powers our founder Fathers fought at our birth. They will promote the same agenda the power elite want for the NWO they seek.

Ron Paul is the only one who believes in the Constitution and the ideas of Liberty for our nation against the same evil ruling class we started this place fighting against in the first place.

Can you understand that idea? We are all being double teamed. Old trick, still works well, even today.

Hegelian dialectic, two forces aligned against one another. One is thesis, the other antithesis.

The conflict will produce a synthesis; in this case, the loss of national sovereignty and the end of freedom
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORM75G-Jby4]The Best Of Friends - YouTube[/ame] TONS OF PICTURES OF CLINTON AND BUSH TOGETHER VIDEO

Left vs Right...I think not!!!!

Amen, bro.
 
Anyone who thinks the president is a marxist doesn't know what marxism is.

and anyone who thinks we're "afraid" of santorum??

:rofl:

Goat head and explain mis irrelevant. I'm sure in your vast useless life on this planet can explain marxism. you sound like you have lived this life or is it what you see from cnn et al la.
 
Anyone who thinks the president is a marxist doesn't know what marxism is.

and anyone who thinks we're "afraid" of santorum??

:rofl:

Goat head and explain mis irrelevant. I'm sure in your vast useless life on this planet can explain marxism. you sound like you have lived this life or is it what you see from cnn et al la.

was that english, loon?

negged,

now go start another thread cause it went so well for you last time.
 
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Anyone who thinks the president is a marxist doesn't know what marxism is.

and anyone who thinks we're "afraid" of santorum??

:rofl:

If we start counting the lies that have been told about this President, it is astounding. Let's see...

Obama is Muslim
Obama was not born in the US
Obama is changing the WH decorum to suit his Muslim views
Obama is part of a conspiracy to overthrow the US


The GOP has worked ovetime to come up with lies. Some of them even occurring on the floor of Congress. You gotta ask yourself, "Why such a pointed attack with lies?"

The Dems are praying harder for a Santorum nomination than they were for a Gingrich nod. Obama would win 50 states.
 
Anyone who thinks the president is a marxist doesn't know what marxism is.

and anyone who thinks we're "afraid" of santorum??

:rofl:

Goat head and explain mis irrelevant. I'm sure in your vast useless life on this planet can explain marxism. you sound like you have lived this life or is it what you see from cnn et al la.

was that english, loon?

negged,

now go start another thread cause it went so well for you last time.
Maybe you can use your english language, reading and comprehension to answer a simple question douchebag?

let see if she can answer simple questions....as low iq the odds are against haaaar.

ps maybe you can make a life like dildo with my name on it try extra wide may help.

Nevermind dumbdown level....you asked for it and you got loser.

The term is marxism douchebag, use early use often. Funny thing is you vote for it every day so what is your problem again?
 
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Rick Santorum’s Senate voting record:
What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like

NEA
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.

Bankruptcy
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Defense and Foreign Policy

Voted for the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC).
Voted against requiring the President to certify that the CWC is effectively verifiable.

Voted against requiring the President to certify that that Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, North Korea, China, and all other countries determined to be state sponsors of terror have joined CWC prior to submitting the instrument of ratification.

Voted for the START II Treaty.
Voted to allow the sale of supercomputers to China.
Voted to ban anti-personnel landmines.
Voted against increasing defense spending offset by equivalent cuts in non-defense spending.
Voted to require that Federal bureaucrats get the same pay raises as uniformed military.
Voted to allow food and medicine sales to state sponsors of terror and tyrannical regimes such as Libya and Cuba.
Voted to limit the President’s authority to impose sanctions on nations for reasons of national security unless the sanctions were approved by a multilateral regime.
Voted against requiring Congressional authorization for military action in Bosnia.
Voted to give $25 million in foreign aid to North Korea.
Voted to weaken alien terrorist deportation provisions. If the Court determines that the evidence must be withheld for national security reasons, the Justice Department must still provide a summary of the evidence sufficient for the alien terrorist to mount a defense against deportation.
Voted against delaying the India Nuclear until the President certified that India had agreed to suspend military-to-military exchanges with Iran.
Voted against the Conventional Trident Missile Program.

Nominations

Voted for Richard Paez to the 9th Curcuit (cloture).
Voted for Sonia Sotomayor, Circuit Judge.
Voted for Richard Holbrooke to be Ambassador to the UN.
Voted for Margaret Morrow to be District Judge.
Voted twice for Marsha Berzon to the 9thg Circuit.
Voted for Mary McLaughlin to be District Judge.
Voted for Tim Dyk to be District Judge.
Voted for James Brady to be District Judge.

Labor

Voted against National Right to Work Act.
Voted against repeal of Davis-Bacon Prevailing union wages.
Voted for Alexis Herman to be Secretary of Labor.
Voted for mandatory Federal child care funding.
Voted for Trade Adjustment Assistance.
Voted for Job Corps funding.
Voted twice in support of Fedex Unionization.
Voted against allowing a waiver of Davis-Bacon in emergency situations.
Voted for minimum wage increases six times here here here here here and here.
Voted to require a union representative on an IRS oversight board.
Voted to exempt IRS union representatives from criminal ethics laws.
Voted against creating independent Board of Governors to investigate IRS abuses.

Guns

Voted to require pawn shops to do background checks on people who pawn a gun.
Voted twice to make it illegal to sell a gun without a secure storage or safety device.
Voted for a Federal ban on possession of “assault weapons” by those under 18.
Voted for Federal funding for anti-gun education programs in schools.
Voted for anti-gun juvenile justice bill.

Reform

Voted for funding for the legal services corporation.
Voted twice for a Congressional pay raise.
Voted to impose a uniform Federal mandate on states to force them to allow convicted rapists, arsonists, drug kingpins, and all other ex-convicts to vote in Federal elections.
Voted for the Specter “backup plan” to allow campaign finance reform to survive if portions of the bill were found unconstitutional.
Voted to mandate discounted broadcast times for politicians.
Voted for a McCain amendment to require state and local campaign committees to report all campaign contributions to the FEC and to require all campaign contributions to be reported to the FEC within 24 hours within 90 days of an election.

Immigration

Voted against increasing the number of immigration investigators.
Voted to allow illegal immigrants to receive the earned income credit before becoming citizens.
Voted to give SSI benefits to legal aliens.
Voted to give welfare benefits to naturalized citizens without regard to the earnings of their sponsors.
Voted against hiring an additional 1,000 border patrol agents, paid for by reductions in state grants.

Taxes

Voted against a flat tax.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for Medicare prescription drugs.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to fund health insurance subsidies for small businesses.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an $8 billion increase in child healh insurance.
Voted to increase tobacco taxes to pay for an increase in NIH funding.
Voted twice for internet taxes.
Voted to allow gas tax revenues to be used to subsidize Amtrak.
Voted to strike marriage penalty tax relief and instead provide fines on tobacco companies.
Voted against repealing the Clinton 4.3 cent gas tax increase.
Voted to increase taxes by $2.3 billion to pay for an Amtrak trust fund.
Voted to allow welfare to a minor who had a child out of wedlock and who resided with an adult who was on welfare within the previous two years.
Voted to increase taxes by $9.4 billion to pay for a $9.4 billion increase in student loans.
Voted to say that AMT patch is more important than capital gains and dividend relief.

Welfare

Voted against food stamp reform.
Voted against Medicaid reform.
Voted against TANF reform.
Voted to increase the Social Services Block Grant from $1 billion to $2 billion.
Voted to increase the FHA loan from $170,000 to $197,000. Also opposed increasing GNMA guaranty from 6 basis points to 12.
Voted for $2 billion for low income heating assistance.

Waste

Sponsored an amendment to increase Amtrak funds by $550 million.
Voted to use HUD funds for the Joslyn Art Museum (NE), the Stand Up for Animals project (RI) and the Seattle Art Museum’s Olympic Sculpture Project (WA).
Voted to increase spending on social programs by $7 billion.
Voted to increase NIH funding by $1.6 billion.
Voted to increase NIHnding by $700 million.
Voted to for a $2 million earmark to renovate the Vulcan Monument (AL).
Voted for a $1 billion bailout for the steel industry.
Voted against requiring that highway earmarks would come out of a state’s highway allocation.
Voted to allow Market Access Program funds to go to foreign companies.
Voted to allow OPIC to increase its administrative costs by 50%.
Voted against transferring $20 million from AmeriCorps to veterans.
Voted for the $140 billion asbestos compensation bill.
Voted against requiring a uniform medical criteria to ensure asbestos claims were legitimate.
Voted to increase community development programs by $2 billion.

Spending and Entitlements

Voted to make Medicare part B premium subsidies a new entitlement.
Voted against paying off the debt ($5.6 trillion at the time) within 30 years.
Voted to give $18 billion to the IMF.
Voted to raid Social Security instead of using surpluses to pay down the debt.

Health Care

Voted to allow states to impose health care mandates that are stricter than proposed new Federal mandates, but not weaker.
Voted twice for Federal mental health parity mandates in health insurance.
Voted against allowing consumers the option to purchase a plan outside the parity mandate.

Education

Voted to increase Federal funding for teacher testing.
Voted to increase spending for the Department of Education by $3.1 billion.
Voted against requiring courts to consider the impact of IDEA awards on a local school district.

Energy

Voted to allow the President to designate certain sites as interim nuclear waste storage sites in the event that he determines that Yucca Mountain is not a suitable site for a permanent waste repository. Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.
 
Under the right economic conditions, Romney could win

Santorum is unelectable

I want Romney.

Not because he is easier to beat, but because I care about America.

Santorum would really hurt America.

I really don't think Santorum is electable. He is an exteme that might appeal to the Far Right of the GOP, but not the general. Romney has the best chance to beat Obama. So I expect most Dems are rooting for Santorum.

I was rooting for Newt until I had a nightmare that he won...


Yep.... you guys keep rooting for Romney.

That is a sure sign Santorum scares the shit out of ya'll.

He will mop the floor with the Marxist in Chief.

:lol:
 
Rick Santorum’s Senate voting record:
What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like

NEA
Voted for taxpayer funding of the National Endowment for the Arts.
Voted against a 10% cut in the budget for National Endowment for the Arts.

Bankruptcy
Voted for a Schumer amendment to make the debts of pro-life demonstrators not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Defense and Foreign Policy

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Those sites are as follows: the nuclear waste site in Hanford, Washington; the Savannah River Site in South Carolina; Barnwell County, South Carolina; and the Oak Ridge Reservation in Tennessee.

Do you just know all that, or can you provide us with a link?
 
I'm not really sure it matters much.

I suppose Romney has an appeal to more centrist Republicans.

But I doubt there'd be much difference in policy if either of them got into office.

They're both tools.
 

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