Romney has every possible advantage.

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    He has the most money.

    He runs the most advertising.

    He has the best organization.

    He's been running for president the longest...almost 5 years.

    He has the backing of the GOP establishment.

    He has the support of the media.

    He even has the support of most Obama supporters. (Brer Rabbits)


    In the General Election, all those advantages disappear except GOP establishment support.

    When he cannot win easily with every advantage...how will he fair when he has none?
     
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    Poor Republicans, thinking they can pick their own nominee.

    Mitt Romney has been hand picked by the billionaire boys club, and they will shove him down your throats.

    Welcome to the world of Citizens United.
     
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    Yep same as Obama. When will stop falling for this crap?
     
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    As long as the obvious solution isn't implemented, all we'll get is crap. The ins listen to whoever pays the freight. If we're not doing it, it ain't us.
     
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    Wrong.

    Obama won in 2008 with mostly small contributions.

    Citizens United changed the game forever.

    Just a few years ago, a “big” political donation during the presidential primaries was about $4,800 – the maximum any individual could give to a candidate through the primary and general election phases.

    The Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizen United ruling, however, has opened up the floodgates for donations 10, 20, even 100 times more than that, as long as the money goes to so-called Super PACs that can support, but not coordinate with, candidates.

    Now, billionaires and other high net worth individuals are using the new guidelines to funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to the candidates they prefer – and Republican front-runner Mitt Romney is benefiting big time. Romney’s Super PAC, Restore Our Future, disclosed its funding report for the second half of 2011, and a lot of familiar faces make the list.

    Ten billionaires, including Wal-Mart heirs Alice and Jim Walton, donated to Restore Our Future. Private equity tycoons Marc Rowan, Sam Zell and hedge funders Julian Robertson, Ken Griffin, and Paul Tudor Jones showed up. Combined, the group of ten Forbes 400 Super PAC donors accounted for $2.8 million of the $18 million rolling in from July 1st to December 31st, 2011.

    Romney, who founded Bain Capital, also scored big from his non-billionaire connections in the lucrative world of private equity. 27 executives from private equity firms donated, at an average of $134,000 each.

    Billionaires, Private Equity, CEOs Give Big to Romney Super PAC - Forbes
     
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    So, we won't (quit falling for this crap)?


    Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets
     
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    Thanks for making it easy for me to disprove your point....

    Individual contributions $656,357,572 88%
    PAC contributions $1,830 0%
    Candidate self-financing $0 0%
    Federal Funds $0 0%
    Other $88,626,223 12%

    Individual contributions were limited in 2008 to $4,600. Obama had almost no PAC money.

    Citizens United has changed everything.

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/donordemCID.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

    http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
     
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    You're simply ignoring my point. We're never going to have anything like real democracy as long as we fall for the partisan crap. While it's encouraging that you (quite rightly) call bullshit on Romney, and (quite rightly) point out that he's where he is because of big money and establishment support - you turn a blind eye to the fact that Obama is cut from exactly the same cloth. He may have marginally greater populist appeal, but any notion that he's a "man of the people" is laughably naive. He's where he is because he is no threat to the powers that be, and never had any intention of changing anything of substance.
     
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    I understand what you are saying, but I would respectfully disagree.

    Hillary was the establishment candidate in 2008, and she lost because of the black vote, not because Obama had a 7 to 1 money advantage from billionaires like Romney has.

    The base hates Romney, but he will win because he has the billionaires behind him.
     
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    Yeah I also find it somewhat amazing that the GOP is shooting itself in the foot every other day.

    One would think with the state of the economy in such disarray one would think the candidates running for the GOP nod would focus their attention on that issue.

    Instead they're busy insulting women, minorities and thinking Americans of all stripes.

    I wonder if the MASTERS don't really WANT Obama in the Oval Office, I really do.
     

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