Rising Sea Levels "The Greatest Lie Ever Told"

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    If the water levels were truly rising, then Seattle would already be in the water. Look it up, our city is shifting into the water an inch a year almost, if the water level was rising even close enough to measure our waterfront would already be gone.
     
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    "An Inconvenient Truth" just shows how far environuts will lie ... nothing more, none of it was even based on fact.
     
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    Nils-Axel Mörner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Views on sea level change
    Morner disagrees with the widely held view of past and future sea level change. A recent booklet The Greatest Lie Ever Told, published by Morner, refers to observational records of sea levels for the past 300 years that show variations - ups and downs, but no significant trend.[1] This contrasts with the usual view that sea level rise has been occurring at 2-3 mm/yr over the last century.[2] Morner asserts that satellite altimetry data indicate a mean rise in the order of 1.0 mm/yr from 1986 to 1996,[3] whereas most studies find a value around 3 mm/yr.

    Morner argues that sea level rise will not exceed 200 mm, within a range of either +100±100 mm or +50±150 mm depending on assumptions.[4]

    In 2004 the president of INQUA wrote that INQUA did not subscribe to Morner's views on climate change.[5]

    In 2000 he launched an international sea level research project in the Maldives which claims to demonstrate an absence of signs of any on-going sea level rise. Despite President Gayoom speaking in the past about the impending dangers to his country,[6] the Maldives, Morner concluded that the people of the Maldives have in the past survived a higher sea level about 50-60 cm and there is evidence of a significant sea level fall in the last 30 years in that Indian Ocean area.[7][8]

    In an interview in June, 2007, Morner described research he had done in the Maldives that had been reported in the documentary Doomsday Called Off. Specifically, he mentioned a tree he had discovered growing close to the shoreline as evidence to support his claim that sea level had actually fallen rather than risen. He also reported that the tree had been deliberately destroyed by a group of Australian researchers who were promoting the IPCC view that sea level was rising. [1]


    [edit] Views on "water--witching" and "Dowsing"
    Mörner has written a number of works claiming to provide theoretical support for dowsing, also known as water witching. [2]
     
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    LOL! Seattle is a little higher than 3 inches above sea level. The oceans don't rise that fast. Ocean levels have been raising for hundreds of years long before global warming was ever coined. And yes, that marshy land that downtown was built on is moving (it was also originally their sewage dump, funny). Shoulda stayed up on first hill, even Native Americans new better than settle in that low lying area.
     
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    Morner is an interesting figure to be sure. In this interview he clearly explains the disparity between the claims of rising seas and the reality, as well as enlightening us on the profit and political driven motivations behind the entire global warming industry:

    Sea Levels Are not rising except in the lies of the IPCC
     
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    How many pro Exxon (or big oil )posts have i made ? ....... :eusa_whistle:
     
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    ,,,
     
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    From the Article:

    "One of his most shocking discoveries was why the IPCC has been able to show sea levels rising by 2.3mm a year. Until 2003, even its own satellite-based evidence showed no upward trend. But suddenly the graph tilted upwards because the IPCC's favoured experts had drawn on the finding of a single tide-gauge in Hong Kong harbour showing a 2.3mm rise. The entire global sea-level projection was then adjusted upwards by a "corrective factor" of 2.3mm, because, as the IPCC scientists admitted, they "needed to show a trend".

    When I spoke to Dr Mörner last week, he expressed his continuing dismay at how the IPCC has fed the scare on this crucial issue. When asked to act as an "expert reviewer" on the IPCC's last two reports, he was "astonished to find that not one of their 22 contributing authors on sea levels was a sea level specialist: not one". Yet the results of all this "deliberate ignorance" and reliance on rigged computer models have become the most powerful single driver of the entire warmist hysteria."
     
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    You loopy nut cases are groping for anything. At least try to make a case with just a tiny bit of credibility, you come off looking like a fools, jeeez.


    link to real, factual data
    Is sea level rising?


    There is strong evidence that global sea level is rising at an increased rate and will continue to rise during this century.

    While studies show that sea levels changed little from AD 0 until 1900, sea levels began to climb in the 20th century.

    The two major causes of global sea-level rise are thermal expansion caused by the warming of the oceans (since water expands as it warms) and the loss of land-based ice (such as glaciers and polar ice caps) due to increased melting.
    records and research show that sea level has been steadily rising at a rate of 1 to 2.5 millimeters (0.04 to 0.1 inches) per year since 1900.


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    Sea Levels Trends
     
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    I am looking at the pier supports right now, from my window ... looks like there is something wrong here, perhaps our city is floating higher each year because in spite of all the sea level rising and our city sliding into the sound more each year, the water beating parts of the support beams goes much higher than the current water level ... strange.
     

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