"Rights are special privileges the government gives you."

[Luddly Neddite]

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

That's like acid rain to the left.

Since there is no proof of the existence of God, there can be no proof that rights are God given.

Yet the people who founded this country believed that rights were divinely vouchsafed.

You fake christians have a way of ignoring facts. Not all of the "founding fathers" believed in an magical, invisible sky fairy but many of them did fight for their freedom.

No "god" has ever given anything to any one. You're welcome to believe otherwise but it has always been human blood that has been given and taken in the fight for freedom.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Funny how I answered your question before you asked it:
The fact that someone may be able to overpower you and keep you from exercising those rights does not change the fact that you have rights; the fact that someone may be able to overpower you and keep you from exercising those rights is why we created government.
That is, government exists because we have rights.

Now, how about answering this::
Why are you so set on on the idea that the government grants rights when you freely admit that there is no text to that effect in the constitution and/or federal law?
so you can't legally or physically exercise a right, but you think you still have it?
seems like you've confuse what you want with what you have.
and yes, rights are why we create government. we create government to protect the rights we want. we don't have them though until others recognize that we do - which means that the government protects them.

i'm set on the idea that government grants rights because it's true. i suppose you could say that we grant them to each other through government, which is probably more accurate.

is there any text in the constition or federal law that says we get our rights from somewhere else? (incidentally it wouldn't matter. we could say in the constitution that all our rights are granted by a magical stone. wouldn't make it true.)

Government that can grant rights can also take them away. Luckily the founding fathers knew better than you.

Did the founders create a government that cannot take away the right to an abortion?

The Founders did not create a right to abortion; a Supreme Court hearing a phony case based on a lie created a right to abortion.

A 'right' is only valid wherein the exercise of that right, does not usurp the means of another to exercise their own right(s).

As a result, there can be no right to 'abortion', as abortion strips the life from another human.

If you believe that, I would recommend that you not have an abortion.

Needless to say, your rights do not include the right to control the body or reproduction of another.

 

[pismoe]

seems to me that ALL the Founders agreed on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights Luddley . Afterall , they ALL signed the Documents !!

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

You fake christians have a way of ignoring facts. Not all of the "founding fathers" believed in an magical, invisible sky fairy but many of them did fight for their freedom.[sic]

I do not know anyone who has ever professed a belief in a "magical, invisible sky fairy". And I expect that the founders of America and the framers of the United States Constitution were no exception.

They, each and every one of the Founders of America and the Framers of the US Constitution held a deep and unapologetic love for Nature's God, OKA: God... the Father.

No "god" has ever given anything to any one. You're welcome to believe otherwise but it has always been human blood that has been given and taken in the fight for freedom.

Always good to see the demon represented in these discussions. One should never forget the manifest evil that comprises the Ideological Left.

In fact, The Creator of the Universe gave us everything you see around you, along with everything you are nowhere near bright enough TO SEE.

Absent God, there is no potential for Human Rights... there would only 'be' this moment and nothing else... and no need to allow you or people like you to exist. The sense of self preservation would be nothing but an illusion, which only the weakest of minds entertained... and there would certainly be no reason to tolerate inveterate douche-bags the likes of you.

So... that you exist, having not been erased, is a certain sign that God exists and his desire that you be given every chance to fulfill the gift he provided you, that is your miserable life.

 

[thereisnospoon]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Who cares

 

[jasonnfree]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Remember how outraged republicans were at the occupy wall street protesters for trying to exercise their free speech? Same with the right wing hatred of the protesters during the Vietnam war.

 

[thereisnospoon]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

The problem is you have ZERO understanding of the foundations of this nation. Irrespective of the reclusive commie NK

 

[thereisnospoon]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Remember how outraged republicans were at the occupy wall street trying to exercise their free speech?

If OWS was simply exercising their right to free speech, no one would have cared.
The fact is OWS had to be outrageous in order to be heard.
In other words OWS was under the delusion that their rights were superior to those of others.
They learned after a few months, they were wrong.
OWS was handled the way every other radical group should be. Marginalize them by ignoring them. They soon crept away in the night

 

[TheOldSchool]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Remember how outraged republicans were at the occupy wall street protesters were trying to exercise their free speech? Same with the protests during the Vietnam war. This is why it's laughable, the right wing always accusing the left of being fascists.

The modern republican is an embarrassment.

 

[thereisnospoon]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Oh bullshit.

 

[thereisnospoon]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

they may have believed that (although i find it weird that God would give a right to vote) but they sure didn't codify it.

did god just forget to give rights to other peoples of the world?

The right to vote is not in the Bill of Rights. Voting rights are a result of legislation.

 

[jasonnfree]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Oh bullshit.

Such eloquence.

 

[jasonnfree]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

they may have believed that (although i find it weird that God would give a right to vote) but they sure didn't codify it.

did god just forget to give rights to other peoples of the world?

The right to vote is not in the Bill of Rights. Voting rights are a result of legislation.

And subject to cancellation by republicans that don't want certain people voting.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Remember how outraged republicans were at the occupy wall street protesters were trying to exercise their free speech? Same with the protests during the Vietnam war. This is why it's laughable, the right wing always accusing the left of being fascists.

The modern republican is an embarrassment.

To you, yes. And that is only because we refuse to kowtow to the liberal agenda.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Oh bullshit.

Such eloquence.

Tough shit. The OP made that up because he has no substantive rebuttal. So I called it as I saw it.
Bullshit.
Now if there's nothing else...

 

[TheOldSchool]

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Remember how outraged republicans were at the occupy wall street protesters were trying to exercise their free speech? Same with the protests during the Vietnam war. This is why it's laughable, the right wing always accusing the left of being fascists.

The modern republican is an embarrassment.

To you, yes. And that is only because we refuse to kowtow to the liberal agenda.

No it's because you and other rubes are played so easily by your conservative propaganda.

Benghazi, ebola, Obama's birth certificate..... 3 unquestionably debunked and only a couple more to go. And then the republican party will have nothing because they don't concern themselves with issues anymore.

 

[jasonnfree]

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

Only the rights that you like of course.

Remember how outraged republicans were at the occupy wall street trying to exercise their free speech?

If OWS was simply exercising their right to free speech, no one would have cared.
The fact is OWS had to be outrageous in order to be heard.
In other words OWS was under the delusion that their rights were superior to those of others.
They learned after a few months, they were wrong.
OWS was handled the way every other radical group should be. Marginalize them by ignoring them. They soon crept away in the night

You have to be outrageous to be heard when the people you are protesting have all money and control the politicians and the police.

 

[thereisnospoon]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

Nope. The founding Fathers said it, our rights are given by God. Whether or not libtards socialists say otherwise makes no difference.

I guess God hates those other countries...

you guess?.....

 

[ChrisL]

do people in north korea have the right to vote?

Point? Oh, you have none.

the point is that rights are given by governments. we have a right to free speech. not everyone country has that. freedom of religion/press/assembly? that's not universal. right to bear arms? nope. equal protection? please.

so what's the problem again?

No rights are demanded and fought for by citizens.

 

[thereisnospoon]

.

Rights are natural.

A government can only take them away.

.

so you were born with the right to vote, but the government took it away?

non sequitur. Voting rights are by legislation.
Not in the Bill of Rights.
The more you harp on this point, the more desperate you appear.
If you don't like the setup, why do you live here?