Revisionist History: Unions

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    Little Love for Labor | The Nation

    The question is - why? Why is this happening?

    Then of course I wonder if it's easier to lie about history when generations are fragmented like never before.

    Little Love for Labor | The Nation
     
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    This is happening because pundits have been issued their talking points. Drive home the idea that labor should just be a commodity, not families. Drive home the message that cheap labor is responsible for outsourcing and, consequently, accepting less (wages and benefits) will make us competitive and stave off losing your job.

    Make the American lifestyle seem unsustainable as a wealthier middle class cuts into the wealth available for the richest. Drive home the point that to stay competitive, Americans must accept third world conditions in the work place, in the environment and in the pocketbook.

    And somehow, the fear ginned up over canards (Obama is a secret Muslim, he's not a natural born American, he's a Socialist/Marxist/Fascist) will blind Americans to the truth of their own circumstances. They will blame Obama for their lot (despite the fact that this whole Trickle Down lie has been championed by the Right for 30 years).
     
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    At one time unions were a useful thing.
    They allowed companies to hire better workers by offering more than the government mandated pay scales (gov't over reach). "Benefits" were added to supplement income.

    Unions are driving companies out of business and this is driving unemployment rates thru the roof.
    They are unsustainable.

    Believe me, I acknowledge that they were a necessary thing, but their usefullness is running out.

    As for strikes being non violent.... now thats a joke! History will prove that. Just do some research, its not hard to find.
     
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    Obama is overseeing trickle UP poverty.
     
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    Unions: they destroyed the US Auto industry and laid waste to Detroit worse than an atomic blast.
     
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    Nobody denies Unions performed an important function in their time.

    It's whether they are still valid now that is a valid question.

    I grew up in a union household. Frankly, I see them as sort of corrupt. They are only interested in protecting their own perks and their own leadership.

    As my brother says, "If they stopped worrying about what their pension fund was worth, and more about the pensions, they'd be doing it right."
     
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    Organized labor is organized thuggery; always has been, always will be. Unions are the only legal criminal enterprise in America (aside from the democrat party, that is). Incidentally, need I point out that this is a Union sponsored book, and might be just a little biased?
     
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    Corporations are organized thuggery. So all unions do is meet thuggery with thuggery.

    Clearly, what unions were meant to originally address- six day, 70 hour work weeks, child labor, machines that took off arms, company stores- these things were attrocities, and it was a good thing someone confronted them.

    Now, the need was more compelling when people could only work at the places they could reach by foot, rather than being mobile and having choices. People believe that they are more capable of managing their own careers today, and to a degree, that's true. And the corporations have choices, too. They can open a plant in China, and many of them do.

    So the employer/worker dynamic has changed. The unions haven't, and that's a large part of the problem.
     
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    Orginized labor is what kept us all from living in grass huts

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    Its been like that since I was boy.

    Let me tell you an amusing story about the demonization of unions.

    Last week I was working on a book published in 1905.

    It is the story of Noah and the Ark, right?

    Guess what one of the problems that this author decided plagued Noah as he was building that ark?

    UNIONISM!

    I kid you not, this book, designed for children, actually insinuated a slap in the face of WORKERS RIGHTS, by implying that the folks who helped Noah build the ark WENT ON STRIKE for better wages!

    I expect that I''ll be publishing that book on our site in next few weeks.

    Remeind me and I'll point it out for you.

    But the USA's master class has hated UNIONS for generations.

    That book, published in 1905, is a perfect example of the anti-worker/union proaganda that has been insinuated in popular culture for generations.

    As to school text books?

    Unionism, the union movement and that whole period when industrial American was basically working on WAGE SLAVE LABOR is usually glossed over, bearly mentioned, and the violence perpetrated mostly by the government on behalf of the "captians of indiustry" against unions is basically overlooked.
     
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