Republicans want to raise taxes on those making less than 106K a year

It averages out to about a thousand dollars a year from what I hear. That translates to about 19 dollars a week on an average. Do you really think that 20 bucks a week is going to jumpstart our economy? Get real and come up with a solution that actually has a lasting impact.

It may mean nothing to you. (Probably because you don't work.)

But that doesn't mean it means nothing to working people who benefit from it.

It could mean, for example, being able to afford a shitty car to get you to work and back.

3 points idiot.

I own my own business.

You can't buy a working car for 19 dollars a week unless you got a few hundred a month to keep it running.

There aren't any good used cars left because Obama bought them all and had them destroyed under cash for clunkers.


Crawl back under your rock fool
 
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How many times do I have to say it.

The half the population that pays no income tax can simply vote themselves more freebies by voting income tax increases that they are immune from...that's exactly what has happened and what will continue to occur.

By requiring that all tax increases are across the board...and that everyone who gets an income of any kind, including SS and welfare, pays something, we eliminate this pitfall.

You can't get something for nothing.

Either we all sacrifice more...or none of us do.
 
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How awesome is it to see the anti-tax rightwing fanatics leap at the chance to raise taxes on the poor??

I hope no one on the left is surprised. Shame on you if you didn't see this coming.

I wouldn't mind if the beloved poor contributed like, something.
 
It averages out to about a thousand dollars a year from what I hear. That translates to about 19 dollars a week on an average. Do you really think that 20 bucks a week is going to jumpstart our economy? Get real and come up with a solution that actually has a lasting impact.

It may mean nothing to you. (Probably because you don't work.)

But that doesn't mean it means nothing to working people who benefit from it.

It could mean, for example, being able to afford a shitty car to get you to work and back.

3 points idiot.

I own my own business.

You can't buy a working car for 19 dollars a week unless you got a few hundred a month to keep it running.

There aren't any good used cars left because Obama bought them all and had them destroyed under cash for clunkers.


Crawl back under your rock fool

Like I said, I don't expect you to stop lying. I understand and appreciate that you don't care about the truth. You've got your side, and you're going to stick to it. Graphs, charts, statistics, facts mean nothing to you. If it supports your pre-conceived notions that's all that matters to you.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and frankly I don't give a shit what you think.
 
How many times do I have to say it.

The half the population that pays no income tax can simply vote themselves more freebies by voting income tax increases that they are immune from...that's exactly what has happened and what will continue to occur.

By requiring that all tax increases are across the board...and that everyone who gets an income of any kind, including SS and welfare, pays something, we eliminate this pitfall.

You can't get something for nothing.

Either we all sacrifice more...or none of us do.

Most of the lefties on this board are fifty-percenters.... that's why they love taxes so much.
 
It may mean nothing to you. (Probably because you don't work.)

But that doesn't mean it means nothing to working people who benefit from it.

It could mean, for example, being able to afford a shitty car to get you to work and back.

3 points idiot.

I own my own business.

You can't buy a working car for 19 dollars a week unless you got a few hundred a month to keep it running.

There aren't any good used cars left because Obama bought them all and had them destroyed under cash for clunkers.


Crawl back under your rock fool

Like I said, I don't expect you to stop lying. I understand and appreciate that you don't care about the truth. You've got your side, and you're going to stick to it. Graphs, charts, statistics, facts mean nothing to you. If it supports your pre-conceived notions that's all that matters to you.

I'm not trying to convince you of anything, and frankly I don't give a shit what you think.


I would like to see your proof that he is lying.

No proof? That makes you a liar.

This ain't our first rodeo.

You call someone a liar rather than address his points...we see right through that tactic.



Better luck next time.
 
It was stupid to cut the payroll tax in the first place, and I said so at the time,

with all this lamenting about how SS and Medicare were going to go broke, blah, blah, and then they cut the revenues that are supposed to keep them from going broke??
 
It was stupid to cut the payroll tax in the first place, and I said so at the time,

with all this lamenting about how SS and Medicare were going to go broke, blah, blah, and then they cut the revenues that are supposed to keep them from going broke??

When you are in a deflationary spiral, the government has to create demand.

One of the best ways is tax cuts and government spending.

Simple economics.
 
You guys are the ones who keep talking about Everyone paying their fair Share while half the People Pay nothing and 10% of them pay 90%.

You guys want to make that even more skewed so even more people pay nothing and the top 10% carry even more of the Burden.

Sorry anyone who knows the Definition of Fair, Knows you are full of shit.

Dude, you're making shit up. Even the most rightwing sources place the top 10 @ around 70%. All these analyses disregard FICA altogether - As stated earlier, EVERYONE who earns even a single dollar in wages pays into FICA. This 'half that pay nothing' DOES. NOT. FUCKING. EXIST.

It's especially ironic that you wheel that crufty shit out in this particular thread, since FICA is precisely what's being discussed.

Promise me... PROMISE, and mean it this time... That you will read something not from Heritage before you post here again. Promise?


When these people only pay (for example) $400 in taxes all year long, and then get back $2,400 that equals - NOT. PAYING. TAXES

:eusa_whistle:

My understanding is that you cannot get more EITC than you pay in FICA.

HOWEVER, it's irrelevant. The tired old '50% pay nothing' is not based on that. It's based on zero taxable income for federal taxes. It disregards FICA.
 
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It was stupid to cut the payroll tax in the first place, and I said so at the time,

with all this lamenting about how SS and Medicare were going to go broke, blah, blah, and then they cut the revenues that are supposed to keep them from going broke??

When you are in a deflationary spiral, the government has to create demand.

One of the best ways is tax cuts and government spending.

Simple economics.

How'd all that government spending in the stimulus work out?

Dip shit.
 
from the linked article in the OP...

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says payroll tax reductions give the economy a short-term boost. But it says the benefit is bigger if employers get the tax break instead of, or along with, workers.
So, Democrats are against giving the economy a bigger boost. Typical.


So, not all Republicans have taken a stand one way or the other. Only mouth breathing Dems would say that means they support letting the holiday end. Typical.

Many Democrats also are ambivalent about Obama's proposed tax cut extension.
Interesting. Only in a mouth breathing Democratic world, would having the same position as your opposition mean you're right and they are wrong. Again... typical.


I wonder why Chris didn't include these points????


So which Republicans, exactly, "want to raise taxes on those making less than $106k"??

because he's a partisan hack?
 
I think those minimum wage idiots - like NYCarbineer - should pay more taxes. For once.

Let them feel the pain we rich bastards have been enduring for years.

I say raise taxes 40% on welfare cases like NYCarbineer. People of his ilk have been bitching for months about raising taxes, time to man up and grow a set.

Yep, I am in favor of it.

Excuse me, but people who make minimum wage are WORKING, not on welfare.
 
It was stupid to cut the payroll tax in the first place, and I said so at the time,

with all this lamenting about how SS and Medicare were going to go broke, blah, blah, and then they cut the revenues that are supposed to keep them from going broke??

When you are in a deflationary spiral, the government has to create demand.

One of the best ways is tax cuts and government spending.

Simple economics.

How'd all that government spending in the stimulus work out?

Dip shit.

It worked out great!

It saved the country from a second Great Depression.

The problem was that the stimulus was too small.
 
You guys are the ones who keep talking about Everyone paying their fair Share while half the People Pay nothing and 10% of them pay 90%.

You guys want to make that even more skewed so even more people pay nothing and the top 10% carry even more of the Burden.

Sorry anyone who knows the Definition of Fair, Knows you are full of shit.

Dude, you're making shit up. Even the most rightwing sources place the top 10 @ around 70%. All these analyses disregard FICA altogether - As stated earlier, EVERYONE who earns even a single dollar in wages pays into FICA. This 'half that pay nothing' DOES. NOT. FUCKING. EXIST.

It's especially ironic that you wheel that crufty shit out in this particular thread, since FICA is precisely what's being discussed.

Promise me... PROMISE, and mean it this time... That you will read something not from Heritage before you post here again. Promise?


When these people only pay (for example) $400 in taxes all year long, and then get back $2,400 that equals - NOT. PAYING. TAXES

:eusa_whistle:

$400 paid in taxes...
$2,400 back in 'rebates'...
Net gain of $2,000...

Hmmmm... that must be the 'new tax math' version of 'paying taxes'. I bet a liberal came up with that one.
 
When you are in a deflationary spiral, the government has to create demand.

One of the best ways is tax cuts and government spending.

Simple economics.

How'd all that government spending in the stimulus work out?

Dip shit.

It worked out great!

It saved the country from a second Great Depression.

The problem was that the stimulus was too small.

thus proving my comment of 'dip shit'. Allow me to add 'monumental' in front of it to complete the picture.
 
Yes we do, eventually anyways. Everyone should share the burden of supporting the thieves in Washington. Currently the bottom half pay nothing to DC. I fail to see the controversy. Even Obama says everyone should pay their fair share.

Everyone pays. Most of the time the bottom half pay a larger percentage of their income. Also, the government does not run on the money that is left after tax returns. It runs on the interest collected from the money all year long.
 
Dude, you're making shit up. Even the most rightwing sources place the top 10 @ around 70%. All these analyses disregard FICA altogether - As stated earlier, EVERYONE who earns even a single dollar in wages pays into FICA. This 'half that pay nothing' DOES. NOT. FUCKING. EXIST.

It's especially ironic that you wheel that crufty shit out in this particular thread, since FICA is precisely what's being discussed.

Promise me... PROMISE, and mean it this time... That you will read something not from Heritage before you post here again. Promise?


When these people only pay (for example) $400 in taxes all year long, and then get back $2,400 that equals - NOT. PAYING. TAXES

:eusa_whistle:

$400 paid in taxes...
$2,400 back in 'rebates'...
Net gain of $2,000...

Hmmmm... that must be the 'new tax math' version of 'paying taxes'. I bet a liberal came up with that one.

No, actually Republicans backed tax cuts in the stimulus package.

One of the few times they have been right.
 
Dude, you're making shit up. Even the most rightwing sources place the top 10 @ around 70%. All these analyses disregard FICA altogether - As stated earlier, EVERYONE who earns even a single dollar in wages pays into FICA. This 'half that pay nothing' DOES. NOT. FUCKING. EXIST.

It's especially ironic that you wheel that crufty shit out in this particular thread, since FICA is precisely what's being discussed.

Promise me... PROMISE, and mean it this time... That you will read something not from Heritage before you post here again. Promise?


When these people only pay (for example) $400 in taxes all year long, and then get back $2,400 that equals - NOT. PAYING. TAXES

:eusa_whistle:

$400 paid in taxes...
$2,400 back in 'rebates'...
Net gain of $2,000...

Hmmmm... that must be the 'new tax math' version of 'paying taxes'. I bet a liberal came up with that one.

Dear stupid fuck,

The 50% figure oft cited by other stupid fucks is not based on the scenario you just described.

Kindly learn to read.

Sincerely,
Cuyo
 
Yes we do, eventually anyways. Everyone should share the burden of supporting the thieves in Washington. Currently the bottom half pay nothing to DC. I fail to see the controversy. Even Obama says everyone should pay their fair share.

Everyone pays. Most of the time the bottom half pay a larger percentage of their income. Also, the government does not run on the money that is left after tax returns. It runs on the interest collected from the money all year long.

The government doesnt hang on to it long enough for interest.

But we pay out the ass.

Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding
 

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