Republicans should own it.

[Votto]

This board has a problem, I mean really you people truly think the kkk is a left wing group, that is ignorant. When you confuse fascism for socialism, that's a problem as well. About healthcare, you do know we already ration healthcare, by finical means. Like I said by you logic north Korea is a democracy, right? You people are dumb.

The KKK came into being after the civil war in the south which was largely Democrat during that time the clan propaganda and recruiting film Birth of a Nation was screened By Woodrow Wilson at the White House and Wilson was said to have praised the film after seeing it though there are questions about that. The clan continued it's rise in power and influence still in the Democratic South from the 20s through the 60s it's power and influence began to wane in the 70s and continued in the 80s and beyond during which time the South started to be come more Republican than Democrat people can make their own judgement about if there is a connection between the two. Today the KKK is a marginal fringe group that is not associated in a major way with either party but it's beginnings and it's history have closer tie's to the Democrats than the Republicans.

Once again, the term "liberal" and "conservative" hinges soley upon which one in which party did what. I find this amusing.

Woodrow Wilson was a statist. As such he despised limited government and would be the type to throw Japanese Americans in jail like FDR did, just because of the color of their skin.

However, turn back the clock to Jefferson, the first Democrat, and what we see is the polar opposite. He stood up to the powers that be and returned power to the people by opposing laws such as the Sedition Acts. In addition, although Jefferson owned slaves, he originally wanted to add to the Declaration of Independence the fact that the slaves needed to be freed, but this was shot down by the group think tank.

 

[Sallow]

Freewill you are a fucking dumb shit, the kkk does not have any democrat affiliation anymore. How can you still be alive when your clearly so fucking retarded. See guy this is why we need to post this stuff cause people like free will are out there, their ignorance needs to be stopped and smashed at every turn.

You are a liar, what was said is that he KKK was a product of the democrat party. You continue lying. You accused me of saying a whole lot I did not and I challenged you to prove I did, you did not, you are a liar. Now you wish to change what I said into something you think is truth, but being a liar I seriously doubt you know the difference.

Everything racist in this country emanated from the Democrat party that is the truth. Why any black would belong to the party of slavery is simply beyond comprehension.

The Democratic party has always been populist. Some times those populist movements are necessarily the "best" movements. The majority generally wants to remain that way and it will do it's best to restrict the rights of the minority. Once Democrats realized that it's racist faction were detrimental to society..that faction moved to the Republican party, who welcomed them with open arms.

Which is why blacks do not vote Republican. And won't until Republicans come to the same conclusion about racism.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I have been on these forums and heard some of the craziest stuff.


The kkk is a left wing group
Nazis were socialists
Voter Id laws are good, remember Jim Crowe
Disaster relief should be equaled with spending cuts
Welfare is a inner city problem
We are going to start rationing healthcare
Public radio is a bad thing
The media is a liberal machine
Civil rights was a conservative movement



I can keep going on, but I think everyone gets the point. For us to go forward we need to understand the history and learn from it.

* Democrats fought tooth an nail to keep Slavery in place
* Democrats were against Civil Rights
* Planned Parenthood was headed by a founder whose goal it was to keep down the Negro population.

 

[mudwhistle]

I have been on these forums and heard some of the craziest stuff.


The kkk is a left wing group
Nazis were socialists
Voter Id laws are good, remember Jim Crowe
Disaster relief should be equaled with spending cuts
Welfare is a inner city problem
We are going to start rationing healthcare
Public radio is a bad thing
The media is a liberal machine
Civil rights was a conservative movement



I can keep going on, but I think everyone gets the point. For us to go forward we need to understand the history and learn from it.

The KKK is a left winged group? I have no clue what that is about. In fact, I'm not very sure what makes them a right winged group since these terms have been bastardized over the years.

The Nazis were socialists? Well if I recall they were referred to as the national socialists party, so according to thier definition they were. Then again, Hitler did not own industry. His phisosophy was that one only nationalize the people, not industry.

Voter ID laws are good? I know where I live they require ID. In fact, you need ID to do pretty much everything, so why not to vote?

They are going to start rationing health care? I got news for ya, health care is ratinoed whether it is by the state or corporate health insurance. Medicare turns down more people than private insurance for procedures.

The media is a liberal machine? Again, what does the term liberal mean? To think that government has no influence over the media is pure fantasy, the only question becomes, how much influence?

Civil Rights was a conservative movement? Again, away with the terms conservative, liberal, and socialist which have been bastardized over the years. I think what they probably were referring to is that Eisenhauer, a Republican, began the process for the Civil Rights movement. However, this legislation was enacted under LBJ, so all the credit went to the democrat party. Now the NAACP is nothing more than a DNC tool.

One important point.....any state that implemented voter I.D. laws Obama lost.

There are 15 states with photo ID requirements for voting. Mr. Obama lost in all of them. In places with the weakest controls, specifically counties in Florida, Ohio, Colorado, and Pennsylvania, he generally drew turnouts in the 90% or greater range and won by better than 95% of the vote.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/did_obama_cheat_how_to_answer_the_question.html

 

[Sallow]

This board has a problem, I mean really you people truly think the kkk is a left wing group, that is ignorant. When you confuse fascism for socialism, that's a problem as well. About healthcare, you do know we already ration healthcare, by finical means. Like I said by you logic north Korea is a democracy, right? You people are dumb.

The KKK came into being after the civil war in the south which was largely Democrat during that time the clan propaganda and recruiting film Birth of a Nation was screened By Woodrow Wilson at the White House and Wilson was said to have praised the film after seeing it though there are questions about that. The clan continued it's rise in power and influence still in the Democratic South from the 20s through the 60s it's power and influence began to wane in the 70s and continued in the 80s and beyond during which time the South started to be come more Republican than Democrat people can make their own judgement about if there is a connection between the two. Today the KKK is a marginal fringe group that is not associated in a major way with either party but it's beginnings and it's history have closer tie's to the Democrats than the Republicans.

Once again, the term "liberal" and "conservative" hinges soley upon which one in which party did what. I find this amusing.

Woodrow Wilson was a statist. As such he despised limited government and would be the type to throw Japanese Americans in jail like FDR did, just because of the color of their skin.

However, turn back the clock to Jefferson, the first Democrat, and what we see is the polar opposite. He stood up to the powers that be and returned power to the people by opposing laws such as the Sedition Acts. In addition, although Jefferson owned slaves, he originally wanted to add to the Declaration of Independence the fact that the slaves needed to be freed, but this was shot down by the group think tank.

Liberal and Conservative are pretty clearly defined philosophical view points.

Where it becomes muddled is when conservatives try to justify their greed, racism and reactionary stances by finding equivalence.

Just as your post illustrates.

 

[Stephanie]

The OP was right on but republicans live in a revisionist world in which Limbaugh Rove Fox give them their thoughts. Hard to say what they be told to think next?

A few months ago republicans were booing soldiers, giving hoorays for sick people dying in America with no help, crying that the rich didn't have enough, and worshiping at the foot of these people they call corporations. What insanity losing power does to some undemocratic right wingers. The few sane republicans recognize insanity and silliness when they see it.

To those millions of Americans who have finally begun paying attention to politics and watched with exasperation the tragicomedy of the debt ceiling extension, it may have come as a shock that the Republican Party is so full of lunatics. To be sure, the party, like any political party on earth, has always had its share of crackpots, like Robert K. Dornan or William E. Dannemeyer. But the crackpot outliers of two decades ago have become the vital center today: Steve King, Michele Bachman (now a leading presidential candidate as well), Paul Broun, Patrick McHenry, Virginia Foxx, Louie Gohmert, Allen West. The Congressional directory now reads like a casebook of lunacy." Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the Cult


"The GOP legislation awaiting Romney's signature isn't simply a return to the era of George W. Bush. From abortion rights and gun laws to tax giveaways and energy policy, it's far worse. Measures that have already sailed through the Republican House would roll back clean-air protections, gut both Medicare and Medicaid, lavish trillions in tax cuts on billionaires while raising taxes on the poor, and slash everything from college aid to veteran benefits. In fact, the tenets of Ryan Republicanism are so extreme that they even offend the pioneers of trickle-down economics. "Ryan takes out the ax and goes after programs for the poor – which is the last thing you ought to cut," says David Stockman, who served as Ronald Reagan's budget director. "It's ideology run amok.""
Mitt Romney's Real Agenda | Politics News | Rolling Stone


"The same right-wingers who happily accepted George W. Bush’s shift toward a police state – his claims of limitless executive power, warrantless wiretaps, repudiation of habeas corpus, redefining cruel and unusual punishment, suppression of dissent, creation of massive databases on citizens, arbitrary no-fly lists, and endless overseas wars – have now reinvented themselves as brave protectors of American liberty." Robert Parry We're Headed for a Major Battle with the Tea Party Crowd over the Constitution Itself | Alternet

man that was all a bunch of hooey
rolling stone and alterworldnet..
everything is "extreme" to the lefties, I guess they think we can keep plucking that money off the magic money tree

 

[daveman]

No Dave , your gonna have to do better than that.

I'm not the one making unsupported claims here, kid.

 

[daveman]

Fact remains kkk is all consertives. Did you know that 99percent of kkk members are registered republicans now......

Citation required.

Oh, who am I kidding? You believe stupid shit is true because you WANT to believe it.

No facts. No logic. Nothing but emotion -- hatred and anger.

the bubble is thick on this one.

hes one the right will have to dump to prove they can ever be relevant again

And here's another one who thinks stupid shit is true because she WANTS to believe it.

No facts. No logic. Nothing but emotion -- hatred and anger.

 

[Stephanie]

Freewill you are a fucking dumb shit, the kkk does not have any democrat affiliation anymore. How can you still be alive when your clearly so fucking retarded. See guy this is why we need to post this stuff cause people like free will are out there, their ignorance needs to be stopped and smashed at every turn.

You are a liar, what was said is that he KKK was a product of the democrat party. You continue lying. You accused me of saying a whole lot I did not and I challenged you to prove I did, you did not, you are a liar. Now you wish to change what I said into something you think is truth, but being a liar I seriously doubt you know the difference.

Everything racist in this country emanated from the Democrat party that is the truth. Why any black would belong to the party of slavery is simply beyond comprehension.

The Democratic party has always been populist. Some times those populist movements are necessarily the "best" movements. The majority generally wants to remain that way and it will do it's best to restrict the rights of the minority. Once Democrats realized that it's racist faction were detrimental to society..that faction moved to the Republican party, who welcomed them with open arms.

Which is why blacks do not vote Republican. And won't until Republicans come to the same conclusion about racism.

oh brother..
It is you Democrats who push Republicans are racist..If you didn't you might lose the black vote..what's sad is they buy into it and what have they got to show for it if Democrats are so good for them?
and look how you Democrats treat and talk about any Black Republican..not pretty and down right degrading

 

[bodecea]

Democrats are Winners....Republicans are Whiners.

LOL

Booooooooooooosh!

Wahh we can't balance the budget because of da Boooooooooooooosh!!

Wahhh

LOL...look who's deflecting to Bush NOW.

 

[daveman]

Democrats are Winners....Republicans are Whiners.

LOL

Booooooooooooosh!

Wahh we can't balance the budget because of da Boooooooooooooosh!!

Wahhh

LOL...look who's deflecting to Bush NOW.

As I asked (and you refused to answer), does that mean you're going to hold Obama responsible for his actions from now on?

 

[lukelk]

Freewill you are a fucking dumb shit, the kkk does not have any democrat affiliation anymore. How can you still be alive when your clearly so fucking retarded. See guy this is why we need to post this stuff cause people like free will are out there, their ignorance needs to be stopped and smashed at every turn.

You are a liar, what was said is that he KKK was a product of the democrat party. You continue lying. You accused me of saying a whole lot I did not and I challenged you to prove I did, you did not, you are a liar. Now you wish to change what I said into something you think is truth, but being a liar I seriously doubt you know the difference.

Everything racist in this country emanated from the Democrat party that is the truth. Why any black would belong to the party of slavery is simply beyond comprehension.

Your shitty op post on another thread that I beat that back, Since you don't want to listen I will say it again, political parties in this country have switched of the years, the kkk is a conservative group the NOW aligns it self the republican party, the reason blacks vote democratic is because that's the party that now represents them, your to stupid to understand that.

 

[mudwhistle]

The KKK came into being after the civil war in the south which was largely Democrat during that time the clan propaganda and recruiting film Birth of a Nation was screened By Woodrow Wilson at the White House and Wilson was said to have praised the film after seeing it though there are questions about that. The clan continued it's rise in power and influence still in the Democratic South from the 20s through the 60s it's power and influence began to wane in the 70s and continued in the 80s and beyond during which time the South started to be come more Republican than Democrat people can make their own judgement about if there is a connection between the two. Today the KKK is a marginal fringe group that is not associated in a major way with either party but it's beginnings and it's history have closer tie's to the Democrats than the Republicans.

Once again, the term "liberal" and "conservative" hinges soley upon which one in which party did what. I find this amusing.

Woodrow Wilson was a statist. As such he despised limited government and would be the type to throw Japanese Americans in jail like FDR did, just because of the color of their skin.

However, turn back the clock to Jefferson, the first Democrat, and what we see is the polar opposite. He stood up to the powers that be and returned power to the people by opposing laws such as the Sedition Acts. In addition, although Jefferson owned slaves, he originally wanted to add to the Declaration of Independence the fact that the slaves needed to be freed, but this was shot down by the group think tank.

Liberal and Conservative are pretty clearly defined philosophical view points.

Where it becomes muddled is when conservatives try to justify their greed, racism and reactionary stances by finding equivalence.

Just as your post illustrates.

Greed - Wanting to make a living without the government taxing the crap out of you.

Racism - Criticizing Obama or anyone who sides with Obama

Reactionary stances - Common-fucken-sense

 

[Sallow]

You are a liar, what was said is that he KKK was a product of the democrat party. You continue lying. You accused me of saying a whole lot I did not and I challenged you to prove I did, you did not, you are a liar. Now you wish to change what I said into something you think is truth, but being a liar I seriously doubt you know the difference.

Everything racist in this country emanated from the Democrat party that is the truth. Why any black would belong to the party of slavery is simply beyond comprehension.

The Democratic party has always been populist. Some times those populist movements are necessarily the "best" movements. The majority generally wants to remain that way and it will do it's best to restrict the rights of the minority. Once Democrats realized that it's racist faction were detrimental to society..that faction moved to the Republican party, who welcomed them with open arms.

Which is why blacks do not vote Republican. And won't until Republicans come to the same conclusion about racism.

oh brother..
It is you Democrats who push Republicans are racist..If you didn't you might lose the black vote..what's sad is they buy into it and what have they got to show for it if Democrats are so good for them?
and look how you Democrats treat and talk about any Black Republican..not pretty and down right degrading

Oh really?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dUqYnbS6m4]Rick Santorum "Black people" comment - YouTube[/ame]
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1bQkk7NL-Y]Gingrich: Poor kids don't work, only get cash illegally - YouTube[/ame]


Those jokers were Republican candidates for President.

 

[Sallow]

This was the black candidate..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXCwd65R5o]Herman Cain refuses to appoint a Muslim in his administration - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

And this is what you guys wound up with..

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvqHERTcytI]Mitt Romney in video: 47 percent of Americans 'Believe they are Victims' and feel 'Entitled' - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sallow]

Democrats don't need to call Republicans, racist.

They just need to let them talk.

 

[Freewill]

Democrats don't need to call Republicans, racist.

They just need to let them talk.

Thank you, thank you Swollow for once again showing the inbred racism of the Democrat party. Romney not once mentioned race in your little video, not once that I heard. But you naturally connect being poor, being on welfare and being dependent to being black. Oops the real racism once again rears its ugly head.

Everything Romney said was true but there was no racism involved, until you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Democrats don't need to call Republicans, racist.

They just need to let them talk.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLAy8aqSG7Y]Obama (southern accent): "Where's yo dolla?" - YouTube[/ame]

 

[GuyPinestra]

Freewill you are a fucking dumb shit, the kkk does not have any democrat affiliation anymore. How can you still be alive when your clearly so fucking retarded. See guy this is why we need to post this stuff cause people like free will are out there, their ignorance needs to be stopped and smashed at every turn.

You are a liar, what was said is that he KKK was a product of the democrat party. You continue lying. You accused me of saying a whole lot I did not and I challenged you to prove I did, you did not, you are a liar. Now you wish to change what I said into something you think is truth, but being a liar I seriously doubt you know the difference.

Everything racist in this country emanated from the Democrat party that is the truth. Why any black would belong to the party of slavery is simply beyond comprehension.

Your shitty op post on another thread that I beat that back, Since you don't want to listen I will say it again, political parties in this country have switched of the years, the kkk is a conservative group the NOW aligns it self the republican party, the reason blacks vote democratic is because that's the party that now represents them, your to stupid to understand that.

Your contention is 100 million Republicans all got together in 1968 and decided to be racists?

So they could represent 5,000 KKK members?

And you think you're SMART?