Dad2three
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What I'm "concerned" about is a tax system where a large percentage of the people have no "skin in the game", Dad! Why am I concerned? It's simple...if someone doesn't pay Federal income taxes then why would they care about how much money the Federal government spends or what the tax rates are for those who do pay Federal income taxes? If you don't pay Federal income taxes you're going to vote for whoever promises you the most "free stuff" (all paid for by those who do!).LIAR. Nearly double. NOT 170%. You mean he PROPOSED a higher tax that CONGRESS gets to decide on? AND what's wrong with limiting bad behavior that costs ALL of US down the road?
Public health groups back Obama’s 94-cent cigarette tax hike
Public health groups back Obama s 94-cent cigarette tax hike TheHill
That would the SECOND tax increase on cigarettes during Obama's time in office, Dad...the first was from 39 cents to $1.01 back in 2009. Now he wants to raise it ANOTHER 94 cents. So you do the math...when you take the Federal tax from 39 cents to $1.95 how much of an increase is that?
You meant Congress increased it once and Obama wants them to do it again. Good
So the way it works in "Dad Fantasy Land" is whenever legislation is proposed by a GOP President and passed by a Democratically controlled Congress...if it doesn't work out well it's the fault of the Republican President? But if Barack Obama proposes legislation and it's passed by a Democratically controlled Congress...it's the fault of Congress?
Do you have any idea how stupid you are with some of this shit?
Weird, care to point to MY positing ANYTHING like that?
I guess Dubya's UNFUNDED Tax cuts were the Dems fault?
Dubya's UNFUNDED war on false premise
Dubya's REGULATOR failure AFTER he ran his 'home ownership' society with the backing of the GOP Congress?
Dubya's Medicare part D UNFUNDED of course
Any of these on the Dems? (Hint 60% of Dems in Congress voted against Dubya's war of choice)
BUT WHY NOT FAVOR A MORE PROGRESSIVE TAX SYSTEM, IF YOU ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE POOR TAX BURDEN??? lol
Once we reach that tipping point it will be a quick journey to the slag heap of history for the US. If you had the first clue about economics you'd see that.
MORE right wing crap. Shocking
That INCOME tax burden that has shrunk to near the lowest level of fed revenues since WW2? About 42% of revenues? lol
WANT THEM TO PAY INCOME TAXES? GET THE BOTTOM HALF OF US, WHO MAKE ABOUT HALF WHAT THE TOP 1% TAKE IN A YEAR (1945-1980 THE TOP 1% ONLY HAD 6%-9% OF THE PIE, TODAY 20%)
In 2011, 47% of Americans paid no federal income taxes. Within that group, two-thirds still pay payroll taxes. The rest are almost all either (a) old and retired folks collecting Social Security or (b) households earning less than $20,000. Overall, four out of five households not owing federal income tax earn less than $30,000, according to the Tax Policy Center.
Here's another, slightly wonkier, way to think about the 47%. Divide the group into two halves. The first half is made tax-free by credits and exemptions, the vast majority of which go to senior citizens and children of the working poor. The half that you're left with is so poor, they wouldn't owe federal income taxes even if there were zero tax expenditures.
There are some not-so-poor outliers, like the 7,000 millionaires who paid no federal income taxes in 2011. But for the most part, when you hear "The 47%" you should think "old retired folks and poor working families."
From David Graham, here is the graph of the 47% -- a.k.a. "non-payers" -- by state. The ten states with the highest share of "non-payers" are in the states colored red. Most are in southern (and Republican) states. Meanwhile, the 13 states with the smallest share of "non-payers" are in blue. Most are northeastern (and Democratic) states.
The 47 Who They Are Where They Live How They Vote and Why They Matter - The Atlantic
The problem with the conservative movement in America is that it is based on bigotry, hatred, and, greed. Above all, greed. Money is their god. They worship money and the holders of it and despise those who don't have it.
Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.
Contrary to Entitlement Society Rhetoric Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly Disabled or Working Households mdash Center on Budget and Policy Priorities
Poor Americans Pay Double The State, Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent
Poor Americans Pay Double The State Local Tax Rates Of Top One Percent
YOU NEED TO GROW A FKKKKING BRAIN!