Republicans block bill to increase spill liability AGAIN

[gslack]

All I see here is classic liberal "throw money at it till it goes away" BS..

They want to raise the cap from 75 million to 10 billion.... 10 billion? WTF why not make it an even 100 billion its only money right? yeah of course it is.... its only money that you think you won't have to pay.... its BP who will pay right? Sure and when they have to pay, they will raise prices at the pump. How? Well speculators, and the fact they with the other big oil magnates will work together just as you liberals claim they already do and systematically get all the 10 billion back.....

You freaking sheeple crack me up.... How in the hell do you think the democrats fund their campaigns? With joe the plumber contributions alone? or maybe the UAW or the other unions who are now almost gutted? No they couldn't do it on that little bit of money anymore. They get their money from the banks like the Fed and their investors who benefit the most from large deficits and debt. Also from companies Like Big oil who have a vested interest and desire to get cap and trade passed so they can make money of the so-called cure for the problem they help create.

You idiots are so unbelievable... Al Gore has oil company stock yet you don't see it. Banks own our debt and your democrats create ever more debt and you still don't see it. They somehow manage to get the most campaign money from the people with the least amount of money to give them and you still don't see it... What will it take with you people?

Big Oil wants Cap and trade, despite all the bullshit told to you.. look into it and you can see for yourself who is invested the most in the cap and trade markets and who invests the most in "green tech" and you will see oil companies. Why? Because its all money. When oil is gone or too expensive and rare they will jump on the next big ticket. Its not rocket science its simple smart business. THey want cap and trade because then they can recoup any losses they incur in green tech research through market manipulation of a cap and trade.

Why wouldn't big oil want cap and trade? They get paid for the oil, then they can manipulate the market and make money from the problems the oil made... its the slickest scam since the pyramid schemes...

All of this glaring evidence and you lefties still shout "throw money at it"... Good god man how utterly blind can you get....

 

[JimH52]

There should be NO CAP. BP will spend the next decade or more in court. They will bleed until there is no more blood. And considering the damage that they have caused, they deserve it.

 

[American Horse]

The GOP is the friend of BIG OIL. The GOP wants a majority in the House or Senate in November. Figure it out? The tax payer is going to get stuck with this bill because the GOP is blocking an increasein limits.

The damage that is being caused by BP and Haliburton is going to be a large as anyone has ever seen. THE GOP WANTS TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR IT ALL! Thanks Republican'ts.

This will change nothing vis-à-vis the current situation, being a-priori legislation. Any thinking of most Dems on legislation is based on opinion of who the GOP is made up of rather than any pretense of a rationale of logical thought, and that's what these politicians who are writing this bill count on.

 

[VaYank5150]

There should be NO CAP. BP will spend the next decade or more in court. They will bleed until there is no more blood. And considering the damage that they have caused, they deserve it.

AND I can assure you there will be NO CAP on the amount of money BP will be willing to pay their team of lawyers in an attempt to not be held responsible for this disaster.

 

[Truthmatters]

Un FUCKing believable.

Here are teh GOP and the cons defending a foreign oil company over the AMERICAN business owners who have had their businesses distroyed by a foreign oil companies cutting corners to save money.


Have you people no idea how low you have sunk to defend your failed ideas?

 

[editec]

CAPS on damages are another example of the anti-capitalistic socialism of the master class, folks.

Some of you call the people supporting this socialism for the insiders progressivism, some of you call it socialism, some of you call it fascism, but whatever you call it, it's another example of the organized criminal cabal that the insiders (who cohabit both government and big capital) have made of our nation.

Who else but big capital gets a cap on their responsibilities?

You don't have one, and neither do I.

If we mess up and cause enormous damages, tough titty for us.

But if big capital messes up, they're too big to fail, so their victims have to absorb the losses?

And some of you support this system?

And when you do, you also attempt to lecture people you think of as liberals, about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?!

Can't have it both ways folks...unless of course you control the government.

Then you can have it both or three or four or any infinite number of ways that suit your needs of the moment.

 

[gslack]

Un FUCKing believable.

Here are teh GOP and the cons defending a foreign oil company over the AMERICAN business owners who have had their businesses distroyed by a foreign oil companies cutting corners to save money.


Have you people no idea how low you have sunk to defend your failed ideas?

No whats unbelievable is you come in a bitch about what you don't fully understand...

Transocean owner of the rig... Was created by US businessmen its main office is in Houston Texas.

Haliburton based in the US by AMerican businessmen...

BP global company. has offices in the US..

All of these companies employ a great many americans. All of these companies work with a great deal of AMERICAN companies who also employ AMERICANS....

 

[California Girl]

The GOP is the friend of BIG OIL. The GOP wants a majority in the House or Senate in November. Figure it out? The tax payer is going to get stuck with this bill because the GOP is blocking an increasein limits.

The damage that is being caused by BP and Haliburton is going to be a large as anyone has ever seen. THE GOP WANTS TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR IT ALL! Thanks Republican'ts.

All politicians are the friends of BIG OIL. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. It was the current Administration that rushed along and signed off on offshore drilling without even considering further regulations.

The taxpayer is NOT going to get stuck with this bill. The reason that some didn't support it is nothing to do with BIG OIL. It is actually more do to with SMALL OIL. This bill would virtually destroy any small, independent oil companies - who usually have much better safety records than the BIG OIL companies.

Oh, and you forgot about TransOcean - the three companies responsible for this are BP, Haliburton and TransOcean. BP has stated - and continues to state - that it WILL pay for the clean up, it will pay legitimate claims for compensation and it will work with environmental experts to find any potential ways to fix any damage. Given that we cannot change what happened, exactly what is it that people expect BP to do?

 

[JimH52]

The GOP is the friend of BIG OIL. The GOP wants a majority in the House or Senate in November. Figure it out? The tax payer is going to get stuck with this bill because the GOP is blocking an increasein limits.

The damage that is being caused by BP and Haliburton is going to be a large as anyone has ever seen. THE GOP WANTS TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR IT ALL! Thanks Republican'ts.

All politicians are the friends of BIG OIL. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. It was the current Administration that rushed along and signed off on offshore drilling without even considering further regulations.

The taxpayer is NOT going to get stuck with this bill. The reason that some didn't support it is nothing to do with BIG OIL. It is actually more do to with SMALL OIL. This bill would virtually destroy any small, independent oil companies - who usually have much better safety records than the BIG OIL companies.

Oh, and you forgot about TransOcean - the three companies responsible for this are BP, Haliburton and TransOcean. BP has stated - and continues to state - that it WILL pay for the clean up, it will pay legitimate claims for compensation and it will work with environmental experts to find any potential ways to fix any damage. Given that we cannot change what happened, exactly what is it that people expect BP to do?

I think someone said it earlier. If someone is a small driller and cannot deal with paying for a cleanup, such as what we are looking at, they need to stay out of the business. The Republicans are using that as an excuse, and most Americans know that. If a small driller had caused the calamity that we are now seeing, then they would be limited in their cleanup? So the tax payer does get screwed?

I honestly don't think BP has enough money to cover the cleanup and economic damage it has caused. So, when the Tax Payer ends up paying, voters are going to remember who stood in Big Oil's corner. We could be dealing with 100s of Billions here. And I still don't think we will see the total damage this has caused, perhaps for decades to come.

If you own BP stock, I would dump it.

 

[California Girl]

The GOP is the friend of BIG OIL. The GOP wants a majority in the House or Senate in November. Figure it out? The tax payer is going to get stuck with this bill because the GOP is blocking an increasein limits.

The damage that is being caused by BP and Haliburton is going to be a large as anyone has ever seen. THE GOP WANTS TAX PAYERS TO PAY FOR IT ALL! Thanks Republican'ts.

All politicians are the friends of BIG OIL. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool. It was the current Administration that rushed along and signed off on offshore drilling without even considering further regulations.

The taxpayer is NOT going to get stuck with this bill. The reason that some didn't support it is nothing to do with BIG OIL. It is actually more do to with SMALL OIL. This bill would virtually destroy any small, independent oil companies - who usually have much better safety records than the BIG OIL companies.

Oh, and you forgot about TransOcean - the three companies responsible for this are BP, Haliburton and TransOcean. BP has stated - and continues to state - that it WILL pay for the clean up, it will pay legitimate claims for compensation and it will work with environmental experts to find any potential ways to fix any damage. Given that we cannot change what happened, exactly what is it that people expect BP to do?

I think someone said it earlier. If someone is a small driller and cannot deal with paying for a cleanup, such as what we are looking at, they need to stay out of the business. The Republicans are using that as an excuse, and most Americans know that. If a small driller had caused the calamity that we are now seeing, then they would be limited in their cleanup? So the tax payer does get screwed?

I honestly don't think BP has enough money to cover the cleanup and economic damage it has caused. So, when the Tax Payer ends up paying, voters are going to remember who stood in Big Oil's corner. We could be dealing with 100s of Billions here. And I still don't think we will see the total damage this has caused, perhaps for decades to come.

If you own BP stock, I would dump it.

Thanks for the stock advice.... but I stick to 'ethical investments' so I don't own BP shares.

Secondly, BP has remarkably deep pockets so I'm not overly concerned that they won't be able to pay for it. Also, since liability has not been established, there is also Haliburton an TransOcean who will likely be paying out as well.

Just because I don't hysterically rant about the evils of BP, doesn't mean I support or defend them.... I just prefer to hang people with evidence.... I'm logical like that.

Also, of course, I like to apportion blame where it actually belongs. So, personally, I blame BP, Haliburton, TransOcean, the US Government, States Governments, and the American people.

 

[Truthmatters]

You have been defending them for days CG

 

[California Girl]

You have been defending them for days CG

You have been stupid for years, TM.

 

[Truthmatters]

Un FUCKing believable.

Here are teh GOP and the cons defending a foreign oil company over the AMERICAN business owners who have had their businesses distroyed by a foreign oil companies cutting corners to save money.


Have you people no idea how low you have sunk to defend your failed ideas?

No whats unbelievable is you come in a bitch about what you don't fully understand...

Transocean owner of the rig... Was created by US businessmen its main office is in Houston Texas.

Haliburton based in the US by AMerican businessmen...

BP global company. has offices in the US..

All of these companies employ a great many americans. All of these companies work with a great deal of AMERICAN companies who also employ AMERICANS....

BP is a foreign oil company.

I said nothing incorrect

 

[California Girl]

Un FUCKing believable.

Here are teh GOP and the cons defending a foreign oil company over the AMERICAN business owners who have had their businesses distroyed by a foreign oil companies cutting corners to save money.


Have you people no idea how low you have sunk to defend your failed ideas?

No whats unbelievable is you come in a bitch about what you don't fully understand...

Transocean owner of the rig... Was created by US businessmen its main office is in Houston Texas.

Haliburton based in the US by AMerican businessmen...

BP global company. has offices in the US..

All of these companies employ a great many americans. All of these companies work with a great deal of AMERICAN companies who also employ AMERICANS....

BP is a foreign oil company.

I said nothing incorrect

Sure you did. You just aren't smart enough to know it.

 

[Valerie]

Why should there be any cap at all?

You destroy the Gulf of Mexico you should go out of business if that is what it takes

A true conservative wants no cap on damages awards. That is JURY DECISION.
Something about the US Constitution.
AMERICANS BEWARE.
The same way insurance companies have spun their tort reform the oil companies are spinning this.
If smaller drillers CAN NOT be responsible for the POTENTIAL damage they do then GET ANOTHER JOB.

Right, it's not like the "smaller drillers" couldn't cause an equal catastrophe.


Great the oil companies are responsible for all the environmental damage, but what about the HUMAN devastation caused by lost jobs and ruined property, etc? They should be on the hook for ALL of it!

 

[hboats]

Why should there be any cap at all?

You destroy the Gulf of Mexico you should go out of business if that is what it takes

Unless of course our government deems you "too big to fail." Then they'll just bail you out no matter what bad choices you've made. Makes perfect sense to me. The government should just run EVERYTHING.

Rick

 

[hboats]

Un FUCKing believable.

Here are teh GOP and the cons defending a foreign oil company over the AMERICAN business owners who have had their businesses distroyed by a foreign oil companies cutting corners to save money.


Have you people no idea how low you have sunk to defend your failed ideas?

You got a list of the "American business owners who have had their businesses distroyed (sp) by...." this disaster?

Didn't think so.

Rick

 

[Valerie]

Un FUCKing believable.

Here are teh GOP and the cons defending a foreign oil company over the AMERICAN business owners who have had their businesses distroyed by a foreign oil companies cutting corners to save money.


Have you people no idea how low you have sunk to defend your failed ideas?

You got a list of the "American business owners who have had their businesses distroyed (sp) by...." this disaster?

Didn't think so.

Rick

Get back to that question by the end of the summer and we shall see.

 

[HUGGY]

The "cons" are all about property rights...right? OK ..what about property rights?

BP acted recklessly. They made decisions that resulted in property damage. There are no mulligans....no overzzies...

They screwed the pooch and not only thier pooch but all who think they have the credibility to assume such awesome responsibility.

Ya we'll drill in the future but at a pace and under regulations and close supervision of our chosing.

 

[Valerie]

But with the oil making landfall in Louisiana — and set to reach the Mississippi, Alabama and Florida coasts by Monday — the impact is already being felt. Louisiana fishermen in Venice docked their boats this afternoon, knowing waters could be closed for a long, long time. Lawsuits have already been filed by seafood companies against BP and Transocean, the rig's operator. Analysts estimate that the Louisiana fishing industry could sustain $2.5 billion in losses, while Florida could lose $3 billion in tourism income.

With Oil Spill (and Blame) Spreading, Obama Will Visit Gulf - TIME