Republican Lie #57: 50% of Americans Pay No Taxes

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    Actually, before you claim to debunk it, you should understand exactly what is said. The claim is that 50% of Americans to not pay income taxes. The reasoning here is that if your taxable income falls under a certain point, your income tax liability drops to $0.00 and you're eligible to be refunded for any payroll taxes collected by the Federal Government.

    I don't see that your graph adequately debunks that.

    For the record, I've never seen the point of that statement anyways. The Poor end up spending almost 100% of their income, meaning they pay out the nose in sales taxes, FCC taxes on cable and phone, gasoline taxes, etc. So they clearly do pay taxes. It's just that their taxable income falls below the point where the IRS decides it isn't worth squeezing you anymore.
     
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    How does this prove in anyway that as a percentage of income tax returns filed either didn't pay any taxes or because of the amount of tax credits and deductions received a return in excess of what was originally paid.

    I guess Yahoo News, notoriously right wing, is incorrect too.

    "About 47 percent will pay no federal income taxes at all for 2009. Either their incomes were too low, or they qualified for enough credits, deductions and exemptions to eliminate their liability. That's according to projections by the Tax Policy Center, a Washington research organization."
    Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance

    How about the CNN, you know they are the Republican mouthpiece?

    "In 2009, roughly 47% of households, or 71 million, will not owe any federal income tax, according to estimates by the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center."

    47% of households owe no tax - and their ranks are growing - Sep. 30, 2009

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    I think I have seen it both ways.

    Some people do qualify it as they do not pay income taxes. Other people don't qualify it that way. It should be spelled out exactly what taxes they are talking about.

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    We are talking " federal income taxes," not sales or state taxes, " federal income taxes," and yes 47% of American do not pay any federal income taxes. If it is deducted from their payroll taxes it is returned to them in the form of a refund.
     
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    In fact many get money they did not pay in, in the form of credits and EIC.
     
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    No, that's not the claim. The claim is that 50% pay no taxes.

    If they were to say 50% (or somewhere thereabouts) pay payroll taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, etc... but don't pay income taxes... that would be true.

    But that's not what they say.
     
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