Rendition

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    Currently in vouge among defenders of the Bush regime is the attempt to portay Obama as being in step with the Bush Administration because of the retention of the rendition policy in hopes of legitimizing Bush's use of 'extraordinary rendition'.

    The two terms are notably different. Rendition is in fact a tool that has been used by the United States in the past when criminal suspects have fled to countries which have no extradition treaties with the US, or sometimes in cases where there are treaties but for one reason or another the country in question will not extradite the criminal suspect.

    'Extrordinary rendition' however is the use of rendition to capture persons, not for criminal trial in the US, but for the relocation to countries which use torture in interogations. It's use is a violation of international laws and treaties which the US has ratified.

    Rendition = legitimate. Extraordinary rendition = illegal.
     
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    Started in the US by Bubba, not Chimpy.

    Still want to persue this path partison boi?
     
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    What was started by Clinton?

    Sorry if you see everything in partisan terms. I don't and am only pointing out the facts.

    Pursuing the facts, this is a bad thing?
     
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    You are confused as ever partisan boi, and you wouldn't know a 'fact' if it hit you upside the head 6 times per second.

    Dems started the redention shit, Bubba was da king of it, and there is no 'extraordinary' version you spinning partisan douchebag.
     
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    You're good at calling names but apparently poor at using google.

    Do a little research before running your mouth.
     
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    I don't need to google the era I lived through simpleton.

    Bubba started that rendition shit, both parties suck, and morons like you that want to play partisan 'gotchas' are a waste of time.
     
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    Clinton used rendition a great deal...Sandy Berger was quoted bragging about it to the news media saying that foreign jailers had a way of getting more intelligence from a prisoner than we could get from someone in US custody....his little joke....

    Thats just the facts of the matter.....
     
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    “Former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer, the architect of the rendition program under Bill Clinton, said what many Democrats know but would rather not hear: that when it comes to sending people to face torture in other countries, the Clinton administration may be as vulnerable to indictment as the Bush administration.”
    “Watch the full panel. Scheuer’s outburst begins around 8:30.
    Architect of CIA Rendition Program: If Torture Prosecutions Go Ahead, Indict Clinton Too | Rights and Liberties | AlterNet

    "Torture by proxy" is used by some critics to describe situations in which the United States has purportedly transferred suspected terrorists to countries known to employ harsh interrogation techniques that may rise to the level of torture.”
    Extraordinary rendition by the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    “… the Obama administration appears to have determined that the rendition program was one component of the Bush administration’s war on terrorism that it could not afford to discard.”
    Obama preserves renditions as counter-terrorism tool - Los Angeles Times
     
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    Moe Lane » Obama’s Rendition Exception.

    President Obama’s executive order closing CIA “black sites” contains a little-noticed exception that allows the spy agency to continue to operate temporary detention facilities abroad.

    For the meatheads...thats "rendition".....
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    you still want to keep making shit up
    you are nothing but a fucking partisan LIAR


    there was NOTHING extraordinary about what Bush did


    asshole
     
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