Regulating Cannabis Sales Could Yield Over $17 Billion In Annual Savings And Revenue

[QUENTIN]

Are you people serious? You call yourself adults?

You're arguing over the anonymous distant internet over who'd kick whose ass in a fight in real life that will never happen?

"My dad can beat up your dad."

Grow the fuck up.

Returning the thread to its topic rather than whose biceps are the veiniest:

Saveliberty, do you believe alcohol and cigarettes should be criminalized? A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[saveliberty]

Are you people serious? You call yourself adults?

You're arguing over the anonymous distant internet over who'd kick whose ass in a fight in real life that will never happen?

"My dad can beat up your dad."

Grow the fuck up.

Returning the thread to its topic rather than whose biceps are the veiniest:

Saveliberty, do you believe alcohol and cigarettes should be criminalized? A simple yes or no will suffice.

What? Ruin my fun with a yes or no answer!

Cigarettes ARE becoming criminalized more and more each year. Same for alcohol. I am one person. We do these things by vote. My vote is still my personal business.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

"In 1971, President Nixon appointed Governor Raymond P. Shafer of Pennsylvania to chair a national commission to "report on the effects of marijuana and other drugs and recommend appropriate drug policies. Governor Shafer was a former prosecutor, who was known as a "law and order" governor.

Among the Commissions findings were:

* "No significant physical, biochemical, or mental abnormalities could be attributed solely to their marihuana smoking."

* "No verification is found of a causal relationship between marihuana use and subsequent heroin use."

* "In sum, the weight of the evidence is that marihuana does not cause violent or aggressive behavior; if anything marihuana serves to inhibit the expression of such behavior."

* "Neither the marihuana user nor the drug itself can be said to constitute a danger to public safety."

* "Marihuana's relative potential for harm to the vast majority of individual users and its actual impact on society does not justify a social policy designed to seek out and firmly punish those who use it."

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The Report of the National Commission on Marihuana and Drug Abuse

Marihuana: A Signal of Misunderstanding

Commissioned by President Richard M. Nixon, March, 1972​

 

[SFC Ollie]

38 Years ago. I wonder if the same things would be found today. We have come a long long way in health care and related science.

 

[SFC Ollie]

In a recreational context, marijuana has been shown to affect health, brain function, and memory. And in a medical context, marijuana is like any other powerful prescription drug: it has potentially dangerous side effects, and the decision to use it to treat patients must involve the same balancing test as the one required for chemotherapy or AZT

THE MEDICAL DANGERS OF MARIJUANA USE


My goodness, Harvard says this........WOW. Didn't ole what's his name go to Harvard?

 

[QUENTIN]

Are you people serious? You call yourself adults?

You're arguing over the anonymous distant internet over who'd kick whose ass in a fight in real life that will never happen?

"My dad can beat up your dad."

Grow the fuck up.

Returning the thread to its topic rather than whose biceps are the veiniest:

Saveliberty, do you believe alcohol and cigarettes should be criminalized? A simple yes or no will suffice.

What? Ruin my fun with a yes or no answer!

Cigarettes ARE becoming criminalized more and more each year. Same for alcohol. I am one person. We do these things by vote. My vote is still my personal business.

Or in other, more honest terms: "I don't think alcohol and cigarettes should be criminalized, but I think marijuana should continue to be illegal. You were totally right when you suggested that in asking for a coherent defense of my stance since the stated basis for my marijuana opposition was that it's bad for you and may cost me money to support in healthcare but of course cigarettes and alcohol are much worse in those regards. I dodged the question by asking where I said that, even though it is what I think, because I don't have a coherent defense you asked for because my stance is illogical but I don't want to admit that because it has become obvious. So... I'm gonna be coy."

Or just shorter terms: "I have no rational argument for marijuana criminalization, but no thanks for pointing that out."

Cool, thanks.

 

[topspin]

What is it about these young punks that they don't understand 22 years in the US Army is not a picnic. You do actually learn to stay in shape, and you learn to hurt people. It's part of every soldiers job. And if you do it for 22 years you obviously must have been pretty good at it. Yet they are such bad asses. I almost feel sorry for the mindset they have.

Anyway, back on subject. Topspin is one shining example of why they call it dope.

some realize that the majority of military that didn't go to college at Navy, air force, or army are likely low IQ's that barely got out of high school.


So you had a shitty paying job for 22 yrs, nothing to brag about in my book gramps.

it is so easy to pick out those who know nothing about our courageous soldiers. Like for instance, If you are in the military and do not continue your civilian education you will not get promoted. You see in the Army after you make Specialist or Corporal (E4) you then complete with others for your next promotion. You do this by earning promotion points. One of the largest areas to gain these promotion points is in civilian education. There are very few E7's without a college degree. Very very few. But then I wouldn't expect a racist no nothing idiot who pretends to be an educated bad ass to understand that kind of stuff.

Oh, just so you know, My retirement pays for a very nice house in a very nice suburb. I have no medical bills, you pay those as part of my benefits. And I shop at the PX and Commissary where I pay less than you do for the same items; and I don't pay sales taxes on anything I buy there. Pretty nice shitty paying job. Um the fries are burning, shouldn't you take care of that?

sucking the big gov tit I see

 

[Mr. Shaman]

some realize that the majority of military that didn't go to college at Navy, air force, or army are likely low IQ's that barely got out of high school.


So you had a shitty paying job for 22 yrs, nothing to brag about in my book gramps.

it is so easy to pick out those who know nothing about our courageous soldiers. Like for instance, If you are in the military and do not continue your civilian education you will not get promoted. You see in the Army after you make Specialist or Corporal (E4) you then complete with others for your next promotion. You do this by earning promotion points. One of the largest areas to gain these promotion points is in civilian education. There are very few E7's without a college degree. Very very few. But then I wouldn't expect a racist no nothing idiot who pretends to be an educated bad ass to understand that kind of stuff.

Oh, just so you know, My retirement pays for a very nice house in a very nice suburb. I have no medical bills, you pay those as part of my benefits. And I shop at the PX and Commissary where I pay less than you do for the same items; and I don't pay sales taxes on anything I buy there. Pretty nice shitty paying job. Um the fries are burning, shouldn't you take care of that?

sucking the big gov tit I see

One o' the benefits o' being an English Major.

"...no nothing..."?????

 

[topspin]

17 billion in savings for something way less harmful than beer or cigs, after the fact the prohibitionist are going to look like the fools they are.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

that's your boyfriend and you know it grampy. Hey are you a priest too?

First rule of fighting. Know your opponent. Topspin just confused Meister with SFC Ollie.

I know your full of crap Topspin because you should know that ANY black belt is held to a higher legal standard if they get into a fight.

P.S. College wrestling is not french kissing a junior college date.

gramps I didn't confuse anything, as not one of you white trash conservatard sofa generals has the balls.

....Or, a JOB, if Bob Gates has his way!!!!

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"Abilene is a long way from America’s centers of power, and Gates’s speeches shun headline-grabbing rhetoric, so what the defense secretary said did not get a lot of notice. But back in Washington, and at military commands around the world, four-star generals and admirals should have been paying attention. The word going around the Pentagon was that Gates was targeting the pampered lifestyles of the top brass. Asked about this by NEWSWEEK, Gates laughed. “As an old Soviet analyst, I read the speeches of their leaders very, very carefully,” he said. “And people should read my speeches very carefully.” He pointed to another speech, delivered in early August. “There is something in there about examining the rank structure and the phrase ‘and the accouterments that go with it.’

Gates grumbles about perks and posh quarters—generally defended by senior officers as a reward for decades of stressful family moves every couple of years—but those are not his real targets. The defense secretary’s deeper complaint is about what he calls “brass creep.” Roughly translated, it means having generals do what colonels are perfectly capable of doing. Generals require huge staffs and command structures: three-star generals serving four-stars, two-stars serving three, each tended by squadrons of colonels and majors. This sort of elaborate hierarchy may have been called for in Napoleon’s day, but in an era of instant communication, Gates thinks the military could benefit from a much flatter, leaner management structure.

These entourages are symbolic of a military leadership that, in the view of its civilian leader, is suffering from an inflated sense of entitlement and a distorted sense of priorities. If Gates has his way, the top brass will have to shed old habits and adjust to leaner times. Some of them will become civilians. The number of generals and admirals has increased by more than a hundred since 9/11, to 969 (and counting Reserves, roughly 1,300). Gates plans a first cut of at least 50. He intends to disband an entire headquarters, the Joint Forces Command, created after the Cold War with the noble aim of making the different armed forces work better together, but which has grown into a $250 million-a-year, 6,000-strong operation of questionable usefulness.

When Gates was first called to the Pentagon in late 2006 by President George W. Bush, he spent 15-hour days trying (with some success) to salvage an Iraq War on the brink of disaster. He found that the military was at war but that the Pentagon was not. The needs of the young men and women slogging around Iraq and Afghanistan took a distant second place to the service hierarchies’ plans for future conflicts—which usually involved expensive new high-tech weapons systems. Gates found his calling. He would fight the military establishment’s preoccupation with “next-waritis,” as he calls it, to see that the young people in combat got what they needed.”

 

[saveliberty]

You two need a map back to reality.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

It's good to know all the profits from selling pot will go to corporations and taxes and stay out of the hands of the evil small time dealers. Hope they will enjoy their new career.

Waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy ahead o' ya'....rookie!!!! ​

"Cannabis consumers have always needed and pined for an effective tool that would tell us where the best cannabis can be found, what is the potency and price (and pricing trends).

Medical cannabis patients in the 14 states and the District of Columbia with cannabis patient protection laws can now visit a single webpage and receive real time pricing, popularity and potency on over 300 cannabis strains at Weed Strain Exchange."

You actually believe we HAVEN'T considered infrastructure-needs, over the last 40 years???????

There's something to be said, for an early-intro to marketing (i.e. buying & selling, within your peer-group, during late-'60s/early-'70s):

Unlike a more-formal education......

.....THERE WASN'T A WHOLE-LOTTA-TIME WASTED ON THEORY!!!!!

 

[SFC Ollie]

You two need a map back to reality.

It's too late for both of them. They are so far gone from reality that they may never find normalcy again.

 

[Meister]

You two need a map back to reality.

It's too late for both of them. They are so far gone from reality that they may never find normalcy again.

I have to question if they ever knew what "normal" ever was, Ollie.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

You two need a map back to reality.

It's too late for both of them. They are so far gone from reality that they may never find normalcy again.

Yeah....it's a major-inconvenience, not having been distracted with military-indoctrination.

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[Mr. Shaman]

You two need a map back to reality.

It's too late for both of them. They are so far gone from reality that they may never find normalcy again.

I have to question if they ever knew what "normal" ever was, Ollie.

That's the primary-issue "conservatives" never seemed to "get" (during their life-long desperate-search for "normalcy"):

There IS none.....but, you go-ahead & keep-right-on-lookin'!!

 

[topspin]

two prohibitionist, one was too dumb for anything but infantry.
shit I'm upset now

 

[Meister]

two prohibitionist, one was too dumb for anything but infantry.
shit I'm upset now

This coming from a HS dropout.

 

[saveliberty]

two prohibitionist, one was too dumb for anything but infantry.
shit I'm upset now

This coming from a HS dropout.

Ask him what the "E" in GED stands for and what it means.

 

[SFC Ollie]

This clown actually believes that Infantry troops are dumb. I know career infantry troops with Bachelor's Degrees. Of course I wouldn't expect much from a doper.