"Red" States, "Blue" States....Why.

[PoliticalChic]

I contend that the assignment of the words "Red" and "Blue" to Republicans and Democrats is by no means accidental.

Instead, it is associated with the 'brain-washing' that has made the Left so successful with the less introspective...
...certainly it is not because their ideas are better.

And without control of the Main Stream Media...it would not have been possible.

1. "The choice of colors in this divide is counter-intuitive to many international observers, as throughout the world, red is commonly the designated color for parties representing labor, socialist, and/or liberal interests [5] [6], which in the United States would be more closely correlated with the Democratic Party. Similarly, blue is used in these countries to depict conservative parties which in the case of the United States would be a color more suitable for the Republicans. For example, in Canada party colors are deeply ingrained and historic and have been unchanged during the Twentieth Century. Red states and blue states - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


2. "It's beginning to look like a suburban swimming pool,'' the television anchor David Brinkley noted on election night 1980, as hundreds of Republican-blue light bulbs illuminated NBC's studio map, signaling a landslide victory for Ronald Regan over the Democratic incumbent Jimmy Carter. Other staffers, Time magazine wrote, called it ''Lake Reagan.''



Mr. Carter's bulbs were red."
Ideas & Trends; One State, Two State, Red State, Blue State - Page 2 - New York Times


3. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsDe-8cOSYY]NBC News Decision 1980 Reagan Wins - YouTube[/ame]



4. "The former system made more sense and was deliberately changed by media partisans who didn’t like to suggest Democrats should be associated with the color red....What’s a little more surprising, however, is how easily Republicans fell in line, apparently without realizing the reason they went from blue to red overnight. There’s even a Republican-leaning opinion site called RedState.com. How shortsighted and gullible can you get?

That made even more sense because Reagan’s convictions were decidedly and unabashedly anti-red.

There were deviations at some other networks, but the standard remained Democrat-red and Republican-blue for three more presidential elections. It was understandable. There was little confusion about it. It all made sense.

Democrats were at least soft on communism and socialism in the post JFK-LBJ world. Republicans tended to be anti-communist. It was all perfectly understandable, accurate and had both historical precedent to support it as well as contemporary parallels in other countries.

Some Democrats, perhaps those not belonging openly to the Progressive Caucus, might be a little self-conscious about being red. Republicans are not. But the fact remains that today’s Democrats are pushing a political agenda that is traditionally, historically and practically red all over.

I propose to you it’s time we – real Americans, the rest of us – stopped being manipulated like this."
How red states turned blue and vice versa

 

[Moonglow]

red is one of my favorite colors, but it has nothing to do with BS ideas of politics. And a color is not the true representation of a political agenda unless the author has a hard time pinning down actual facts and exercises the ability to report them with specifics and not generalizations. Rah! Go Team Go!

 

[konradv]

I think they were chosen, so that lame paradigm wouldn't be brought up every cycle.

 

[Truthmatters]

because the person who picked the colors thought all people were not good jsut like you op

 

[PoliticalChic]

red is one of my favorite colors, but it has nothing to do with BS ideas of politics. And a color is not the true representation of a political agenda unless the author has a hard time pinning down actual facts and exercises the ability to report them with specifics and not generalizations. Rah! Go Team Go!

Wrong again, little fella....



"Blue, particularly dark blue, is usually associated with conservative parties, originating from its use by that party of the United Kingdom.
 The field of the flag of the United Nations is light blue, chosen to represent peace and hope. It has given rise to the term bluewashing.
 In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated blue with the Democratic Party, even though the Democratic Party is a liberal-leaning party. In 2010, the party unveiled a blue official logo

Red is traditionally associated with socialism and communism. The oldest symbol of socialism (and, by extension, communism) is the Red Flag, which dates back to the revolutions of 1848. The colour red was chosen to represent the blood of the workers who died in the struggle against capitalism. All major socialist and communist alliances and organisations – including the First, Second, and Third Internationals – used red as their official colour. The association between the colour red and communism is particularly strong. Communists use red much more often and more extensively than other ideologies use their respective traditional colours.
 In Europe and Latin America, red is also associated with parties of social democracy, and often their allies within the labour movement. Sometimes these parties use pink instead, as a "moderate" colour instead of the more "radical" red.
 In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated red with the Republican Party, despite the fact that the Republican Party is a conservative-leaning party. Since at least 2010, the party has adopted an all red logo."
Political colour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



But...history is but another of your lacunae, isn't it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

because the person who picked the colors thought all people were not good jsut like you op

So, you believe that people are all good?

Perhaps, had you studied history...specifically United States history...you might have been disabused of your mistaken belief.

But...if it is not too late, pick up a copy of the Federalist Papers, glance over #51, in which it is assumed that human nature needs to be kept in check.


The Constitution commemorates our revolution, and, as Madison states in the ‘Federalist,’ is the greatest of all reflections on human nature…human beings are not angels.”

' If men were angels, no government would be necessary.'

Humans are not perfect, nor perfectible, but are capable of self government. The republican form of government presupposes this idea of humans. Our government is not a controlling government, but must itself be controlled: by the Constitution.



You're welcome.

 

[Moonglow]

red is one of my favorite colors, but it has nothing to do with BS ideas of politics. And a color is not the true representation of a political agenda unless the author has a hard time pinning down actual facts and exercises the ability to report them with specifics and not generalizations. Rah! Go Team Go!

Wrong again, little fella....



"Blue, particularly dark blue, is usually associated with conservative parties, originating from its use by that party of the United Kingdom.
 The field of the flag of the United Nations is light blue, chosen to represent peace and hope. It has given rise to the term bluewashing.
 In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated blue with the Democratic Party, even though the Democratic Party is a liberal-leaning party. In 2010, the party unveiled a blue official logo

Red is traditionally associated with socialism and communism. The oldest symbol of socialism (and, by extension, communism) is the Red Flag, which dates back to the revolutions of 1848. The colour red was chosen to represent the blood of the workers who died in the struggle against capitalism. All major socialist and communist alliances and organisations – including the First, Second, and Third Internationals – used red as their official colour. The association between the colour red and communism is particularly strong. Communists use red much more often and more extensively than other ideologies use their respective traditional colours.
 In Europe and Latin America, red is also associated with parties of social democracy, and often their allies within the labour movement. Sometimes these parties use pink instead, as a "moderate" colour instead of the more "radical" red.
 In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated red with the Republican Party, despite the fact that the Republican Party is a conservative-leaning party. Since at least 2010, the party has adopted an all red logo."
Political colour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



But...history is but another of your lacunae, isn't it.

you may think that it is a free country, which is associated with red, white and blue, so fuck you

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think they were chosen, so that lame paradigm wouldn't be brought up every cycle.

"...lame paradigm..."

Are you denying that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/ etc...are...shall we say more aligned with socialism, communism, etc?


Otherwise your post, as usual, makes no sense.


Let's review: the red has been assigned to the Republicans specifically because Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/ etc...are... aligned with socialism, communism, Marxism..and it is an attempt to hide same from folks who aren't paying attention.


Don't you agree?

 

[PoliticalChic]

red is one of my favorite colors, but it has nothing to do with BS ideas of politics. And a color is not the true representation of a political agenda unless the author has a hard time pinning down actual facts and exercises the ability to report them with specifics and not generalizations. Rah! Go Team Go!

Wrong again, little fella....



"Blue, particularly dark blue, is usually associated with conservative parties, originating from its use by that party of the United Kingdom.
 The field of the flag of the United Nations is light blue, chosen to represent peace and hope. It has given rise to the term bluewashing.
 In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated blue with the Democratic Party, even though the Democratic Party is a liberal-leaning party. In 2010, the party unveiled a blue official logo

Red is traditionally associated with socialism and communism. The oldest symbol of socialism (and, by extension, communism) is the Red Flag, which dates back to the revolutions of 1848. The colour red was chosen to represent the blood of the workers who died in the struggle against capitalism. All major socialist and communist alliances and organisations – including the First, Second, and Third Internationals – used red as their official colour. The association between the colour red and communism is particularly strong. Communists use red much more often and more extensively than other ideologies use their respective traditional colours.
 In Europe and Latin America, red is also associated with parties of social democracy, and often their allies within the labour movement. Sometimes these parties use pink instead, as a "moderate" colour instead of the more "radical" red.
 In the United States, since the year 2000, the mass media have associated red with the Republican Party, despite the fact that the Republican Party is a conservative-leaning party. Since at least 2010, the party has adopted an all red logo."
Political colour - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



But...history is but another of your lacunae, isn't it.

you may think that it is a free country, which is associated with red, white and blue, so fuck you

My, my...the language!

It seems I've hit a nerve.


Have you noticed that I can express myself sans vile language?
You should work on becoming more articulate....read more, it'll help.

 

[del]

I think they were chosen, so that lame paradigm wouldn't be brought up every cycle.

"...lame paradigm..."

Are you denying that Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/ etc...are...shall we say more aligned with socialism, communism, etc?


Otherwise your post, as usual, makes no sense.


Let's review: the red has been assigned to the Republicans specifically because Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/ etc...are... aligned with socialism, communism, Marxism..and it is an attempt to hide same from folks who aren't paying attention.


Don't you agree?

you remain a cut and paste idiot.

kudos

 

[Mad Scientist]

you may think that it is a free country, which is associated with red, white and blue, so fuck you

All colors have strong feelings and emotions that go with it. I even knew a blind man who could identify basic colors just by touching them, he said they had different temperatures.

If it were up to me, Liberals would be associated with Red and Red only. Just look at Russia (old flag) and China. There's a reason they chose blood red flags.

 

[Oddball]

As far as I remember, blue states signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.

In 2000 Algore was assigned the incumbent's color of blue and the whole modern-day "red state blue state" thing came about, as a result of the ubiquitous national map with Florida swinging from red to blue to red.

As grand conspiracies go, this one is pretty limp.

 

[PoliticalChic]

As far as I remember, blue states signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.

In 2000 Algore was assigned the incumbent's color of blue and the whole modern-day "red state blue state" thing came about, as a result of the ubiquitous national map with Florida swinging from red to blue to red.

As grand conspiracies go, this one is pretty limp.

Yes...there was a period when 'blue signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.'

But they must have known all along that it was an opportunity that they couldn't pass up.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Good grief, I agree with Odd-Dude.

That said, and I admit it made me ill to admit such a thing, PC's penchant for conspiracies is well documented (see any of her posts). I am a bit surprised she didn't include the freedom flag of the Gay/Lesbian effort for equal opportunity as something radical; one might also wonder why she didn't 'claim' white (as in white sheets) as the flag of the far right.[

 

[Truthmatters]

because the person who picked the colors thought all people were not good jsut like you op

So, you believe that people are all good?

Perhaps, had you studied history...specifically United States history...you might have been disabused of your mistaken belief.

But...if it is not too late, pick up a copy of the Federalist Papers, glance over #51, in which it is assumed that human nature needs to be kept in check.


The Constitution commemorates our revolution, and, as Madison states in the ‘Federalist,’ is the greatest of all reflections on human nature…human beings are not angels.”

' If men were angels, no government would be necessary.'

Humans are not perfect, nor perfectible, but are capable of self government. The republican form of government presupposes this idea of humans. Our government is not a controlling government, but must itself be controlled: by the Constitution.



You're welcome.

Most humans are mostly good, some are saintlike and some are complete rat bastards.

why do you think they are all NOT GOOD?

maybe its a reflextion of who YOU are.

You look in your own soul and think all others are like you.

 

[del]

As far as I remember, blue states signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.

In 2000 Algore was assigned the incumbent's color of blue and the whole modern-day "red state blue state" thing came about, as a result of the ubiquitous national map with Florida swinging from red to blue to red.

As grand conspiracies go, this one is pretty limp.

Yes...there was a period when 'blue signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.'

But they must have known all along that it was an opportunity that they couldn't pass up.

 

[bobgnote]

As far as I remember, blue states signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.

In 2000 Algore was assigned the incumbent's color of blue and the whole modern-day "red state blue state" thing came about, as a result of the ubiquitous national map with Florida swinging from red to blue to red.

As grand conspiracies go, this one is pretty limp.

Yes...there was a period when 'blue signified incumbents (if there was one) and red was the challenger.'

But they must have known all along that it was an opportunity that they couldn't pass up.

Red-staters try to hold their breath, until they turn blue, but they only redden.

Blue-staters are born that way, as babies. Independents need not apply.

 

[rightwinger]

Obviously a Commie plot to tie Republicans to Russia and China. But red also denotes their deficit spending

Good thing we have PC looking out for us

 

[PoliticalChic]

because the person who picked the colors thought all people were not good jsut like you op

So, you believe that people are all good?

Perhaps, had you studied history...specifically United States history...you might have been disabused of your mistaken belief.

But...if it is not too late, pick up a copy of the Federalist Papers, glance over #51, in which it is assumed that human nature needs to be kept in check.


The Constitution commemorates our revolution, and, as Madison states in the ‘Federalist,’ is the greatest of all reflections on human nature…human beings are not angels.”

' If men were angels, no government would be necessary.'

Humans are not perfect, nor perfectible, but are capable of self government. The republican form of government presupposes this idea of humans. Our government is not a controlling government, but must itself be controlled: by the Constitution.



You're welcome.

Most humans are mostly good, some are saintlike and some are complete rat bastards.

why do you think they are all NOT GOOD?

maybe its a reflextion of who YOU are.

You look in your own soul and think all others are like you.

Au contraire.

That is your 'translation' of what I have said...your 'straw man' version.

The Right, and I agree, sees human nature as neither good nor bad...but does have a healthy dollop of self-interest.

That is why capitalism is so successful, and socialism/communism an abysmal failure.
And, it is the reason that checks and balances are a necessary part of government.

Care to see the other viewpoint, the Left's?

a. Woodrow Wilson in his tome on the administrative state, wanted to end checks and balances as unnecessary because government officials are necessarily good.

b. “Mrs. Clinton recently criticized the way American society rewards selfishness and stigmatizes idealism, publicly embracing my call for a politics of meaning…” Cynicism vs. the Politics of Meaning : Hillary Clinton doesn't deserve the media's sneers for saying what most Americans feel. - Los Angeles Times

 

[rightwinger]

I have been to the Red States and they are actually red

Maybe that helps you