Reasons to stop the port lease

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    1 The UAE has ties to terrorism.
    2 Foreigners should not be allowed lease US port operations
    3 The investigation of the deal was secretly done behind closed doors.
    4 The White House has pressured the members of CFIUS to lie in thier
    report.
    5 We should have all the security (border) issues resolved before we deal
    with this one.
    6 The UAE is run by dictators.
    7 The chances of a terrorist attack is greater if the UAE operates the
    instead of someone else.
    8 The UAE will have access to all our security measures.
    9 Some members from both sides of the aisle have reservations about it.
    10 Why do anything with it. Just leave it like it is.
    11 It's bad for GOP politicians.
    12 Americans should not "sell off" America.
    13 Michael savage said so
    14 Arab/ Muslims don't like Israel
    15 Stacey Keibler doesn't live in the UAE.
    16 Bush stands to profit personally by leasing the ports to the UAE.
    17 The UAE finances Hamas.


    Did I miss any?
     
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    Yeah -

    Stacey Keibler doesn't live in the UAE.
     
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    You're basically right. Although some of them are overstated to facilitate your debunking of red herrings.
     
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    Then by all means--restate them in a way that you feel appropriate.
     
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    Nah. just tiny nitpicky things like "ALL our security measures"

    They're basically good.
     
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    I'm probably right, too. :)
     
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    All valid and legitimate reasons, your inbetween the lines childish sarcasm is duly noted of course.
     
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    explain please?
     
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    Dillo I think we are on the same side on this argument, but allow me to debunk your list, if I may:

    The UAE has ties to terrorism.
    The UAE may have had ties to terrorism in the past. I think somewhere around September 12, 2001, they figured out whose side to be on. In fact, Osama bin Laden threatened the UAE in 2002 (HT: OCA) because they were too pro-Western for him.

    Foreigners should not be allowed lease US port operations
    Says who? The isolationist wing of the GOP? Republicans have understood the realities of global trade for decades. I wish this ideology would hurry up and die already. Global capitalism is here to stay.
    From a practical standpoint, though, which US companies bid to buy the port operations from the British company? Where are all the American companies who "ought" to do this work?

    The investigation of the deal was secretly done behind closed doors.
    I don't think it was done secretly, it's just that no one paid attention to it. I am glad we're having the national debate, though.

    The White House has pressured the members of CFIUS to lie in thier report.


    We should have all the security (border) issues resolved before we deal with this one.
    This is pie-in-the-sky if I ever heard it. Which border issues need resolution? How long will that take? What happens in the meantime - do we close all ports operated by foreign companies?

    The UAE is run by dictators.
    The UAE is not going to run the port operations, so this has no bearing on teh issue.

    The chances of a terrorist attack is greater if the UAE operates the port instead of someone else.
    Again, the UAE won't control the post ops - the company will. Still, this assumes that the company has something to gain by allowing such an event to occur. As it is, 2/3 of the board of directors are either American or European, so they are certainly not going to allow terrorism to occur within their control.

    The UAE will have access to all our security measures.
    They won't.

    Some members from both sides of the aisle have reservations about it.
    Great. That's why we're having the debate.

    I still haven't seen a good reason to deny this company the port operations in question.
     
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    Please--debunk away--I just thought I might try to get all this in one place where we can look at it in a glance.
     

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