Reasons I like Ted Cruz for POTUS

[Derideo_Te]

Your right, I* didn't fact check his position at Harvard, I answered the comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o.

So you are admitting to reading something and just blindly accepting it at face value without question. What is more you chose to repeat it thereby harming your own credibility in the process. Given that you are now aware that there is at least one definitive piece of evidence that Cruz is not what he appears to be are you going to continue to believe everything you hear about him or will you be more skeptical in future?

One assumes this is rhetorical.

As the raison d'être of the TPM is to adhere blindly to dogma and to hold the truth and facts in contempt.

But of course. Cruz hitched his wagon to the extreme right and tried to wreck the economy and put millions out of work. The moderate middle isn't going to buy his nonsense.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Your right, I* didn't fact check his position at Harvard, I answered the comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o.

So you are admitting to reading something and just blindly accepting it at face value without question. What is more you chose to repeat it thereby harming your own credibility in the process. Given that you are now aware that there is at least one definitive piece of evidence that Cruz is not what he appears to be are you going to continue to believe everything you hear about him or will you be more skeptical in future?

One assumes this is rhetorical.

As the raison d'être of the TPM is to adhere blindly to dogma and to hold the truth and facts in contempt.

And they do it so well.

You gotta give them that.

Thankfully, its losing them elections. Just not fast enough.

 

[Kathy58]

Apparently you didn't fact check it;

First Hispanic To Lead Harvard Law Review | News | The Harvard Crimson



Got to wonder what else Cruz boasts about that doesn't bear scrutiny.

Your right, I* didn't fact check his position at Harvard, I answered the comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o.

So you are admitting to reading something and just blindly accepting it at face value without question. What is more you chose to repeat it thereby harming your own credibility in the process. Given that you are now aware that there is at least one definitive piece of evidence that Cruz is not what he appears to be are you going to continue to believe everything you hear about him or will you be more skeptical in future?

I repeat, I was answering a comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o, that's all. And put it this way, I'll certainly believe Cruz above most politicians. The info about his Harvard Review position could certainly have been the fault of the publisher and not Cruz himself. And no, I will not be more skeptical of him in the future. If for some reason, he reverses political views or begins to drink the D.C. kool-aide like Rubio, I will no longer support him. Until then, I will continue to support him.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Your right, I* didn't fact check his position at Harvard, I answered the comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o.

So you are admitting to reading something and just blindly accepting it at face value without question. What is more you chose to repeat it thereby harming your own credibility in the process. Given that you are now aware that there is at least one definitive piece of evidence that Cruz is not what he appears to be are you going to continue to believe everything you hear about him or will you be more skeptical in future?

I repeat, I was answering a comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o, that's all. And put it this way, I'll certainly believe Cruz above most politicians. The info about his Harvard Review position could certainly have been the fault of the publisher and not Cruz himself. And no, I will not be more skeptical of him in the future. If for some reason, he reverses political views or begins to drink the D.C. kool-aide like Rubio, I will no longer support him. Until then, I will continue to support him.

Thanks for putting your credibility out of it's misery. It was really suffering and deserved to be put down. Have a nice day.

 

[Kathy58]

So you are admitting to reading something and just blindly accepting it at face value without question. What is more you chose to repeat it thereby harming your own credibility in the process. Given that you are now aware that there is at least one definitive piece of evidence that Cruz is not what he appears to be are you going to continue to believe everything you hear about him or will you be more skeptical in future?

I repeat, I was answering a comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o, that's all. And put it this way, I'll certainly believe Cruz above most politicians. The info about his Harvard Review position could certainly have been the fault of the publisher and not Cruz himself. And no, I will not be more skeptical of him in the future. If for some reason, he reverses political views or begins to drink the D.C. kool-aide like Rubio, I will no longer support him. Until then, I will continue to support him.

Thanks for putting your credibility out of it's misery. It was really suffering and deserved to be put down. Have a nice day.

Lol, back at ya. Seems you and many others here prefer to go down with the ship, no matter what. Good luck with that. I try to be open minded, giving political candidates room to make a statement, then go from there. I'm an Independent so when Obama made his first trip to Austin, Tx, I went to listen to him. I waited 4 hours to see him and when he finally got on stage, his message of hope & change rang empty. No ideas about how to budget or a path to fiscal solvency. Just "hope & change."
You can continue to insult, belittle, and slam Ted Cruz; I don't really care. IMO, he is one of the few that really wants to follow through on campaign promises and puts his money where his mouth is. When Obamacare crashes, it's on those of you that voted for that idiot. You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Your right, I* didn't fact check his position at Harvard, I answered the comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o.

So you are admitting to reading something and just blindly accepting it at face value without question. What is more you chose to repeat it thereby harming your own credibility in the process. Given that you are now aware that there is at least one definitive piece of evidence that Cruz is not what he appears to be are you going to continue to believe everything you hear about him or will you be more skeptical in future?

I repeat, I was answering a comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o, that's all. And put it this way, I'll certainly believe Cruz above most politicians. The info about his Harvard Review position could certainly have been the fault of the publisher and not Cruz himself. And no, I will not be more skeptical of him in the future. If for some reason, he reverses political views or begins to drink the D.C. kool-aide like Rubio, I will no longer support him. Until then, I will continue to support him.

Obviously you’re unaware of the fact that his makes no sense.

If a politician you perceived to be a rightwing extremist betrays you and turns moderate, wasn't he unworthy of your support from the outset?

And if republican candidates start to abandon the radical rightwing agenda you support, perhaps the problem is your political extremism, not the politicians who see the light of responsible governance.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I repeat, I was answering a comment about Ted memorizing the Constitution at 13 y/o, that's all. And put it this way, I'll certainly believe Cruz above most politicians. The info about his Harvard Review position could certainly have been the fault of the publisher and not Cruz himself. And no, I will not be more skeptical of him in the future. If for some reason, he reverses political views or begins to drink the D.C. kool-aide like Rubio, I will no longer support him. Until then, I will continue to support him.

Thanks for putting your credibility out of it's misery. It was really suffering and deserved to be put down. Have a nice day.

Lol, back at ya. Seems you and many others here prefer to go down with the ship, no matter what. Good luck with that. I try to be open minded, giving political candidates room to make a statement, then go from there. I'm an Independent so when Obama made his first trip to Austin, Tx, I went to listen to him. I waited 4 hours to see him and when he finally got on stage, his message of hope & change rang empty. No ideas about how to budget or a path to fiscal solvency. Just "hope & change."
You can continue to insult, belittle, and slam Ted Cruz; I don't really care. IMO, he is one of the few that really wants to follow through on campaign promises and puts his money where his mouth is. When Obamacare crashes, it's on those of you that voted for that idiot. You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval.

Independents don't become infatuated with extreme right wing candidates and want the ACA to fail so once again it is your credibility that is ringing hollow. Genuine Independents are looking at Christie on the right and looking for a viable alternative candidate on the left to choose from. You can voice your opinion all you like but the only approval you are going to get is amongst your fellow extreme rightwingers.

 

[birddog]

Republicans not only wrote the original ACA bill but they have had almost 2 decades to read it thoroughly and they had over 100 amendments added to it so your fallacious claim that it was never read is utter nonsense.

Liar Alert! Liar Alert! What the Rs wrote was not close to being the same!

Onus is on you to prove your allegation with credible links! Mojo2 tried that earlier in this thread and failed miserably. Feel free to try and do better.

You first! Credible links that it was the same? Otherwise, you are a lying POS!

 

[Kathy58]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Liar Alert! Liar Alert! What the Rs wrote was not close to being the same!

Onus is on you to prove your allegation with credible links! Mojo2 tried that earlier in this thread and failed miserably. Feel free to try and do better.

You first! Credible links that it was the same? Otherwise, you are a lying POS!

http://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/1989/pdf/hl218.pdf

Pertinent excerpts;

All citizens should be guaranteed universal access to affordable healthcare. [bottom of Pg 3]

Mandate all households to obtain adequate health insurance [Pg 6]

Your turn!

 

[birddog]

De, there are some similarities, but The Heritage program is not close to being the same as ACA!

Besides, Heritage is a conservative think tank, not the republican party. Also, their mandates are more honest, fair, and open. Costs would be more fair and controlled.

Nice try, but still apples and oranges.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

If Cruz is not extreme in your opinion then you are a fellow extremist. On any checklist of conservative positions Christie is a conservative. What differentiates him from extremists like you and Cruz is that he is a pragmatic conservative who understands that you have to work with people to achieve goals through a process of compromise. Only extremists demand that their agenda become law irrespective of the wishes of the other 75% of the nation.

Extremists ideologues do more harm than good. They create divisions and cause strife and conflict. They are opposed to how this nation was founded to operate on a system of checks and balances. Extremists demand that only their way is correct and screw everyone else. The American people will only tolerate the puerile antics of the extremists up to a point.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

Kathy, wanting a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense...etc... is "extreme" to the idiot liberals.

Cruz is doing exactly what we elected him to do, a concept the Democrats can't understand.

 

[Derideo_Te]

De, there are some similarities, but The Heritage program is not close to being the same as ACA!

Besides, Heritage is a conservative think tank, not the republican party. Also, their mandates are more honest, fair, and open. Costs would be more fair and controlled.

Nice try, but still apples and oranges.

The HF plan was used as the GOP alternate to HilaryCare in the early 1990's. It was used as the basis for RomneyCare in MA. It was used as the basis for the ACA too. No amount of denial is going to change that fact.

Obama campaigned on singlepayer and compromised on the HF plan. The GOP made over 100 amendments to the HF plan that were accepted. That is what the ACA is today. A conservative profit driven healthcare plan with a mandate to ensure that everyone has insurance.

Healthcare costs will never be controlled as long as there is a profit motive involved. Consumers are simply not in a position to make informed choices about healthcare. Should you use to Kidneys-R-Us or Kidneys-To-Go for your next transplant? It doesn't work that way in real life. Singlepayer eliminates the 20% profit overhead and therefore is much more cost effective than the HF profit driven plan.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

Kathy, wanting a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense...etc... is "extreme" to the idiot liberals.

Cruz is doing exactly what we elected him to do, a concept the Democrats can't understand.

Limited government that restricts abortion while allowing the mentally deranged to purchase guns without any background checks? Fiscal responsibility that pours $24 billion taxpayer dollars down the drain when the extreme right minority threw a hissyfit because they don't want to do the job they were elected and swore an oath to do?

 

[birddog]

De, I can see some advantages to "single pay," but I don't like pure socialism. You don't have to have "single pay" to keep costs down and expand care. When Obamacare was passed there were valid R bills that would have cut costs with tort reform, allowed state-to-state purchases, and would have relieved the pre-existing condition problem. Instead Obama had to do the ACA which is far more expansive than anything else, and is now a disaster!

 

[birddog]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

Kathy, wanting a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense...etc... is "extreme" to the idiot liberals.

Cruz is doing exactly what we elected him to do, a concept the Democrats can't understand.

Limited government that restricts abortion while allowing the mentally deranged to purchase guns without any background checks? Fiscal responsibility that pours $24 billion taxpayer dollars down the drain when the extreme right minority threw a hissyfit because they don't want to do the job they were elected and swore an oath to do?

The next time I issue another "Dumbass Award," you will be a contender.

 

[Kathy58]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

If Cruz is not extreme in your opinion then you are a fellow extremist. On any checklist of conservative positions Christie is a conservative. What differentiates him from extremists like you and Cruz is that he is a pragmatic conservative who understands that you have to work with people to achieve goals through a process of compromise. Only extremists demand that their agenda become law irrespective of the wishes of the other 75% of the nation.

Extremists ideologues do more harm than good. They create divisions and cause strife and conflict. They are opposed to how this nation was founded to operate on a system of checks and balances. Extremists demand that only their way is correct and screw everyone else. The American people will only tolerate the puerile antics of the extremists up to a point.

You are accurately describing Obama, right? Actually, a majority of Americans do not support Obamacare but it was shoved down our throats anyway.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/sep/26/newt-gingrich
/obamacare-has-never-been-favored-majority-american/

Remember, the democrats were confident once Americans were enrolled in Obamacare, they would like it;
After Years Of Political Talk, The Obamacare Fight Gets Real : NPR

And again, if Obamacare is so great, why are we still forced to pay 75% of Congress' health premiums instead of them paying for their own? Americans that make $174,000/ yr. don't get subsidies!

As a TP member, I fully support following the Constitution and demand that the gov't operate the way it was designed to; checks and balances that don't allow one branch of the gov't to accrue excessive power. Currently, Obama is dictating what is law and what isn't, refusing to let Congress do it's job. I blame most members of Congress for allowing him to do that as well.
Your definition of extremist fits Obama far more than Cruz.

 

[Kathy58]

Cruz is not "extreme" in my opinion. And it's telling that liberals want Christie as a candidate for president; liberals see Christie as a "moderate" which in their view, means he'll push their agenda instead of conservative goals. Cruz is doing what he said he would do, unlike many other politicians.

Kathy, wanting a limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national defense...etc... is "extreme" to the idiot liberals.

Cruz is doing exactly what we elected him to do, a concept the Democrats can't understand.

Limited government that restricts abortion while allowing the mentally deranged to purchase guns without any background checks? Fiscal responsibility that pours $24 billion taxpayer dollars down the drain when the extreme right minority threw a hissyfit because they don't want to do the job they were elected and swore an oath to do?

If you are going to throw gov't waste into the discussion, you have to include the wasted $$ of the Obamacare site, the costs of Fast & Furious, and of course, the bailout.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/10/24/how-much-did-healthcare-gov-cost/

 

[JakeStarkey]

The voice of a far rightwing reactionary TeaP: "You believe what you want; I don't really give a f**k. I'm here to voice my opinion, not seek your approval."

The italicized above is the voice of a far right wing weirdo, not an independent.