Billo_Really
Litre of the Band
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Look, they won a fair election. Deal with it!Not really Hamas threatened all their opponents, and now they rule as any Arab dictator soes, with an Iron Fist. Can you tell the difference between the way Hamas rules Gaza and the way Taliban ruled Afghanistan?
And you constantly fail to consider this fact, Israeli actions are not in self-defense! An aggressor, cannot claim self-defense.when Hamas won the elections in 2006, elections declared impeccably fair and civil by all international observers, it won them for the whole of the Palestinian Authority, including the West Bank (it was not allowed by Israel to campaign in East Jerusalem). Many Hamas West Bank legislators remain in Israeli jails.
According to international law, you cannot have reprisals against reprisals.the self-evident legal and moral principle that an aggressor cannot rely upon self-defence to justify violence against resistance to its own aggression.
And Israel has committed far more acts of terrorism, than Hamas has and it's not even close.Under International Law, as in Domestic Law, there can be no reprisal against reprisal. The assassin who is being repulsed by his intended victim may not slay him and then, in turn, plead self defense. "(Trial of Otto Ohlendorf and others, Military Tribunal II-A, April 8, 1948)
And Hamas has offered several times to settle the conflict, but it is Israel that said no.So self-defense cannot justify this attack, or the siege that preceded it. What can? That Hamas is a “terrorist organization?” But terrorism is about deliberately killing civilians for illegal political ends, and in that enterprise, Israel has topped Hamas by many multiples.
You need to get your head out of your ass and stop being such an arrogant asshole. The real reason there is no peace, is because Israel doesn't want peace.That Hamas does not recognize Israel’s “right to exist?” But Hamas has offered many times to make a long-term truce with Israel on the basis of the legal international borders, something it is clearly entitled to insist upon. Israel says that’s not good enough, that Hamas first has to recognize Israel’s legitimacy, in other words, it has to concede the legitimacy of the Jewish state and all it has meant to the Palestinians. In other words, as one Israeli journalist ironized, Israel is insisting that Hamas embrace Zionism as a condition of even talking peace with it.
You people act like you can do whatever you fuckin' please. As if you really believed that nonsense of being the "chosen" ones by God. I hate to break it to you skippy, you weren't chosen! God doesn't choose. Everyone is equal in his eyes. So you're no better than anyone else. Fuck you!These are not justifications for violence on this or any scale. Indeed, they point to the most plausible reason Israel is fighting Hamas (and the PLO before it): self-defence, if you will, not against rockets and mortars, but against having to make peace with the Palestinians on the basis of the pre-1967 borders as required by international law.