Real Family Values

[Two Thumbs]

Sanders has his priorities straight when it comes to family.
Real Family Values

Sanders is making some great points and yes, he is absolutely right about the difference between faux family values and genuine ones that make a difference in the lives of everyday people.

The right will always whine about the cost of these programs while ignoring the fact that when employers provide these benefits they build up a loyal workforce that will go the extra mile for their employers who do provide these benefits. It is hard to put a price on that benefit but it is real.

Then again, why put a price tag on genuine family values?

Doesn't that devalue them?

Time for the GOP to stop the scrooge obstruction of these family values or it will never regain the all important female votes it needs to win the Whitehouse.

And my point is proven.

How dare a small store not provide all sorts of benefits!

the government should force them to and we will help them by voting!


mmm, tyranny. tasty stuff

Obviously you know nothing at all about this works.

Tax incentives are provided by the government for these benefits.

But continue to ignore the very real needs of hard working Americans and see your party dwindle into irrelevancy in the future.

18 Trillion in debt

Because of feckless malfeasance on the part of republicans in Congress and the Whitehouse.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Sanders has his priorities straight when it comes to family.
Real Family Values

When my Republican colleagues mention “family values,” they’re usually talking about opposition to contraception, denying a woman’s right to choose, or opposition to gay rights.

Real family values strengthen the bonds of family and improve the lives of our families. When it comes to these values, our country deserves better.

We are the only major nation in the world that doesn’t guarantee paid time off for new parents. Of 182 nations that do provide paid leave for this purpose, more than half guarantee at least 14 weeks off.

We are the only one of 22 wealthy nations that does not guarantee some type of paid sick leave, and the only one that does not provide paid sick leave for a worker undergoing a 50-day cancer treatment.

We are the only advanced economy, and one of only 13 nations in the entire world, that doesn’t guarantee workers a paid vacation.

The truth is that we lag behind other developed countries in many of the policies that bring working families together. That’s wrong. It’s a travesty. And it should be an embarrassment to anyone who claims to speak for family values in this country.
/QUOTE]

Real family values?

Dreaming of being raped while your husband wacks off is great family values huh.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Sanders has his priorities straight when it comes to family.
Real Family Values

Sanders is making some great points and yes, he is absolutely right about the difference between faux family values and genuine ones that make a difference in the lives of everyday people.

The right will always whine about the cost of these programs while ignoring the fact that when employers provide these benefits they build up a loyal workforce that will go the extra mile for their employers who do provide these benefits. It is hard to put a price on that benefit but it is real.

Then again, why put a price tag on genuine family values?

Doesn't that devalue them?

Time for the GOP to stop the scrooge obstruction of these family values or it will never regain the all important female votes it needs to win the Whitehouse.

And my point is proven.

How dare a small store not provide all sorts of benefits!

the government should force them to and we will help them by voting!


mmm, tyranny. tasty stuff

Obviously you know nothing at all about this works.

Tax incentives are provided by the government for these benefits.

But continue to ignore the very real needs of hard working Americans and see your party dwindle into irrelevancy in the future.

18 Trillion in debt

Iraq, 2008, war hawks, not wanting to raise taxes at all.. Thanks pubbies.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Would you approve the funding of half a billion a year if it reduced abortions by 40% a year?

Yes or no?

 

[guno]

Sanders has his priorities straight when it comes to family.
Real Family Values

When my Republican colleagues mention “family values,” they’re usually talking about opposition to contraception, denying a woman’s right to choose, or opposition to gay rights.

Real family values strengthen the bonds of family and improve the lives of our families. When it comes to these values, our country deserves better.

We are the only major nation in the world that doesn’t guarantee paid time off for new parents. Of 182 nations that do provide paid leave for this purpose, more than half guarantee at least 14 weeks off.

We are the only one of 22 wealthy nations that does not guarantee some type of paid sick leave, and the only one that does not provide paid sick leave for a worker undergoing a 50-day cancer treatment.

We are the only advanced economy, and one of only 13 nations in the entire world, that doesn’t guarantee workers a paid vacation.

The truth is that we lag behind other developed countries in many of the policies that bring working families together. That’s wrong. It’s a travesty. And it should be an embarrassment to anyone who claims to speak for family values in this country.
/QUOTE]

Real family values?

Dreaming of being raped while your husband wacks off is great family values huh.

Lets not get into your memories of your time in prison, OK

 

[David_42]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Thank planned parenthood, birth control..

 

[jwoodie]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Would you approve the funding of half a billion a year if it reduced abortions by 40% a year?

Yes or no?

Haha. I know you're trying to be sly and play gotcha. Only 40 percent? If we could go for 90 percent, I'd be in.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

Because that would mean that ObamaCare providing contraceptives to women is succeeding at reducing abortions, right?

 

[David_42]

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

Because that would mean that ObamaCare providing contraceptives to women is succeeding at reducing abortions, right?

I thought obama wanted to kill babies?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Ah yes, sanders and his support for abortion, selling of baby organs and so on. Yep, that's some genuine family value.

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

I'll never agree with willfull abortions.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

Because that would mean that ObamaCare providing contraceptives to women is succeeding at reducing abortions, right?

I thought obama wanted to kill babies?

He did and its on his record. He voted for infanticide when he was a senator of illinois.

 

[David_42]

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

Because that would mean that ObamaCare providing contraceptives to women is succeeding at reducing abortions, right?

I thought obama wanted to kill babies?

He did and its on his record. He voted for infanticide when he was a senator of illinois.

Really now? Please, show how he did this, LOL.
Infanticide: "the crime of killing a child within a year of birth."

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Infanticide: "the crime of killing a child within a year of birth."

Given that the entire gestational period of a human is only three quarters of a year, abortion certainly falls under this definition of infanticide, since every abortion victim is less than a year away from birth.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Abortion will never go away, it's a women's choice and her fucking uterus, get over it. The PP bullshit has been debunked, you idiots failed, this year has been a laughable disaster for you bigots.

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Would you approve the funding of half a billion a year if it reduced abortions by 40% a year?

Yes or no?

Haha. I know you're trying to be sly and play gotcha. Only 40 percent? If we could go for 90 percent, I'd be in.

Nothing sly about it.

A study using long acting contraceptives (larcs) for teens likely to become pregnant had an 80% success rate at reducing abortions. The only problem is that larcs are more expensive than regular contraceptives but they are more effective.

It would only cost half a billion to roll that out nationwide and since pregnant teens are responsible for 51% of all abortions reducing that by 80% would mean an overall reduction of 40%.

That would be between 400,000 and 500,000 fewer abortions per year.

It would also mean that these same teens would be able to complete their schooling and become productive members of the workforce.

Yes, the goal is to reach 90% if we can but this would be a great way to start IMO.

So are you in or do you believe that banning abortion is going to stop abortions from actually happening?

 

[David_42]

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Would you approve the funding of half a billion a year if it reduced abortions by 40% a year?

Yes or no?

Haha. I know you're trying to be sly and play gotcha. Only 40 percent? If we could go for 90 percent, I'd be in.

Nothing sly about it.

A study using long acting contraceptives (larcs) for teens likely to become pregnant had an 80% success rate at reducing abortions. The only problem is that larcs are more expensive than regular contraceptives but they are more effective.

It would only cost half a billion to roll that out nationwide and since pregnant teens are responsible for 51% of all abortions reducing that by 80% would mean an overall reduction of 40%.

That would be between 400,000 and 500,000 fewer abortions per year.

It would also mean that these same teens would be able to complete their schooling and become productive members of the workforce.

Yes, the goal is to reach 90% if we can but this would be a great way to start IMO.

So are you in or do you believe that banning abortion is going to stop abortions from actually happening?

Social conservatives will moan and bitch about abortion, but when a "socialist" policy that has been proven to cut down on it drastically works, it never gets supported. Seems like the liberals want to reduce abortion more then cons..

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

Because that would mean that ObamaCare providing contraceptives to women is succeeding at reducing abortions, right?

I thought obama wanted to kill babies?

He did and its on his record. He voted for infanticide when he was a senator of illinois.

Really now? Please, show how he did this, LOL.
Infanticide: "the crime of killing a child within a year of birth."

Here you go: Barack Obama on Abortion

Yeah, they were babies. Anybody can play word games and semantics.

 

[David_42]

Why should you celebrate a reduction in the number of abortions? Think about it.

Because that would mean that ObamaCare providing contraceptives to women is succeeding at reducing abortions, right?

I thought obama wanted to kill babies?

He did and its on his record. He voted for infanticide when he was a senator of illinois.

Really now? Please, show how he did this, LOL.
Infanticide: "the crime of killing a child within a year of birth."

Here you go: Barack Obama on Abortion

Yeah, they were babies. Anybody can play word games and semantics.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Nope and nope. It's actually been a disaster for what 30 million plus babies. Remember....they had no choice. Keep that head down there deep in the sand though. Ive heard its blissful.

How are you defining a baby? Let's look at some numbers:
"
In 2011, 730,322 legal induced abortions were reported to CDC from 49 reporting areas. The abortion rate was 13.9 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years and the abortion ratio was 219 abortions per 1,000 live births.

Compared with 2010, the total number and rate of reported abortions for 2011 decreased 5%, and the abortion ratio decreased 4%. Additionally, from 2002 to 2011 the number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions decreased 13%, 14%, and 12%, respectively. The large decreases in the total number, rate, and ratio of reported abortions from 2010 to 2011, in combination with decreases that occurred during 2008–2010, resulted in historic lows for all three measures of abortion.

Women in their twenties accounted for the majority of abortions in 2011 and throughout the period of analysis. The majority of abortions in 2011 took place early in gestation. In 2011, most abortions (91.4%) were performed at ≤13 weeks’ gestation; a smaller number of abortions (7.3%) were performed at 14–20 weeks’ gestation, and even fewer (1.4%) were performed at ≥21 weeks’ gestation.
"
Is a zygote a baby?

Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the rate of abortion decreasing.

Would you approve the funding of half a billion a year if it reduced abortions by 40% a year?

Yes or no?

Haha. I know you're trying to be sly and play gotcha. Only 40 percent? If we could go for 90 percent, I'd be in.

Nothing sly about it.

A study using long acting contraceptives (larcs) for teens likely to become pregnant had an 80% success rate at reducing abortions. The only problem is that larcs are more expensive than regular contraceptives but they are more effective.

It would only cost half a billion to roll that out nationwide and since pregnant teens are responsible for 51% of all abortions reducing that by 80% would mean an overall reduction of 40%.

That would be between 400,000 and 500,000 fewer abortions per year.

It would also mean that these same teens would be able to complete their schooling and become productive members of the workforce.

Yes, the goal is to reach 90% if we can but this would be a great way to start IMO.

So are you in or do you believe that banning abortion is going to stop abortions from actually happening?

No, I do not believe that banning will stop abortions from happening. But, I also do not believe in the state giving its blessings to end a human life that can't even defend itself.