Real Death Panels right now

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    Yes, Virginia, there really are death panels. And they are ran by the government.

    Jan Brewer, Governor of Arizona, summarily stopped transplants Medicaid payments. Summarily enough that one fellow was on the gurney for the operating room, when he was informed if he could not come up with $200,000, they were putting the liver back into storage.


    Norman J. Ornstein - 'Death panels' are real -- brought on by budget pressures

    During the debate over health reform, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.), Sarah Palin and others railed against the "death panels" that would result from the bill. Government bureaucrats, critics said, would decide who would die and when. The bill passed - and indeed there are death panels. But they do not come from the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. "Obamacare." They come from Republican administrations in states such as Arizona and Indiana.

    But, since these are Republican Death Panels, they are just the cat's meow. Saving money, since these citizens are probably useless anyway.
     
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    Government will not give you all the health care you want.
     
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    Or need.

    According to right wing black hearts like the good governor of Arizona.
     
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    Get used to government telling you how much health care you can't have.
     
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    Of course an asshole such as yourself would state that. What you mean is that you wish for lifesaving procedures to be provided only for those with the wealth to pay the total cost. Assholes like you carry on about 'Death Panels' when paying for end of life counseling is recomended, then shout your approval for real death panels. Your true morality is showing.
     
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    Why should I trade what I have for that?
     
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    And what you're saying is that we need to eliminate all the old, weak, and defective.

    Got it.
     
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    Why give up what I have for the promises of a temporary occupants of governments who have accomplished nothing?
     
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    It's amazing how much his posts sound like Nazi propaganda.
     
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    yes this was the government, via medicaid. whacked isn't it?

    I fail to see how a much larger gov. mechanism would have changed the paradigm or WILL. When you square that circle for me let me know.



    Now, from what I understand, which could be in degree, mistaken, under obama care, the states are going to be on the hook for more of the share of medicaid. IF they don't have the money now, where will they get it?

    My GP, who is Mexican btw, has not seen medicarel patients for 8 years. Guess why?
     
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