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    So now it is also ok to kill innocent Muslims...nothing should stand in the way of jihad!

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/05/18/iraq.main/index.html

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A chilling, rambling audio file thought to be from the most-wanted man in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, says religious doctrine justifies the killing of innocent Muslims by insurgents.

    The message was posted on several Islamist Web sites Wednesday, the same day a senior U.S. military official said the Jordanian-born leader of al Qaeda in Iraq ordered the recent wave of car bombings.

    CNN has been unable to confirm that the voice is that of al-Zarqawi. The tape introduces the speaker as al-Zarqawi, but the speaker does not identify himself.

    The voice says in Arabic: "The shedding of Muslim blood ... is allowed in order to avoid the greater evil of disrupting jihad."

    The voice says the protection of religion "is more important than protecting lives, honor or wealth."

    "God knows that we were careful not to kill Muslims, and we have called off many operations in the past to avoid losses ... but we cannot kill infidels without killing some Muslims. It is unavoidable," he adds.

    The speaker defends suicide attacks, saying, "killing of infidels by any method including martyrdom operations has been sanctified by many scholars even if it meant killing innocent Muslims."

    "This legality has been agreed upon ... so as not to disrupt jihad," or "holy war," the recording says.
     
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    I think that's why we took the fight to Iraq, better there with flypaper, than Manhattan.
     
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    If there is any doubt in anyone's mind regarding the intent of the militant Muslim, they merely need to listen to what they say....the fact that the "moderate" Muslim does nothing to refute the militant Muslim speaks volumes as well....I wonder if there is sucha thing as a moderate Muslim.

    I keep hearing people talk about Islam as the religion of peace. It's actions show us it is really the religion of terror. The fact that other religions have used terror in the past is not justification for ANY religion to sanction terrorism today.
     
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    Currently Islam is going through a modern day Inquisition, where the most fundamentalist "leaders" have taken over and the regular person who is Muslim stands in fear of the reaction of the few who "lead". If they speak out they are branded as a bad Muslim and a target is placed on them as much as the US Citizen, the only difference is they are within reach and often are taken as a target of opportunity.

    The one who would turn in a terrorist knows that it is likely that their entire family will suffer for their action...

    Each time one person stands up and they are actually protected we have won a huge, but quiet, victory.
     
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    Can't argue that; however, there are Muslim leaders outside the reach and range of the militants though could speak up without fear of physical reprisal yet they are silent.
     
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    not mention their ass! Obviously, the terrorists are willing to blow them away for the sake of jihad....life is very very cheap in their eyes.
     
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    True, and I think some have. Traditionally, they have used Mosques to call for this and that, what they are preaching to their followers will be what produces results, probably moreso than public pleas for peace.
     
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    I was listening to Michael Savage yesterday and he had a caller that got out of prison in 2003 after serving 16-1/2 years. He "found God" while in prison and he seemed very sincere and calm. Anyway, he was telling how in the prisons, the liberals are pushing to ban Christian services and even banning Bibles. Yet the Muslims are ENCOURAGED to practice their religion and they are afforded special treatment such as no pork being allowed AT ALL on the menu. He said he was amazed when he got out how much the US had changed and how strange it seems.

    He was in prison (so he says and I do believe him, if you heard him, you probably would too) because he walked in on a man raping a 12 year old girl and he picked up a baseball bat and beat the guy to death. He was convicted of involuntary manslaughter.
     
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    Did he explain the justification for changes to prison menus etc?
     
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    I want to believe the guy...because if it were true I would have done the same...given the circumstances...however I was a little concerned about the 16 1/2 years imposed by "Involuntary manslaughter" this amount of time would be more in line with "Voluntary manslaughter" If he had a clean record the most he would have probably been given for "Involuntary" would have been maybe a year and probation....also he said he was a Christian before going to prison...and just became stronger while serving time...
     

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