Rand Paul

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    He is coming to town to speak and I'm going to go see him. I'm taking my sons as well. Surprisingly, he is leading (but within the margin of error) in several polls in Kentucky, including a WHAS-TV poll released last week. I'm expecting a lot of the typical GOP talking points, but if he comes off with something pleasantly anti-establishment I'll let you know.
     
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    Please do!
     
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    I expect the same talking points as Ron.

    I also expect his opponents to steal his talking points as the campaign goes along, and move further right as they lose poll points. It's not like we haven't seen this happen every single time someone with this type of platform gets considerable recognition.

    I watched it happen in front of my face during the republican presidential primaries, and I also watched it happen during the NJ republican primary race for governor.

    Anyone who isn't recognizing it needs a frontal lobotomy.
     
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    It's already happened if you look at the issues page on Trey Grayson's website.
     
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    We just got back. The group was kind of small, probably 75 people, but for a Tuesday night in small-town Kentucky not bad I guess. I talked with his campaign manager, David, for a while about the media and how they've tried to name Trey Grayson the GOP Senate contender by default by leaving Paul out of conversations. He said the good numbers have made Trey Grayson have to act much earlier than he wanted to; Grayson's plan was to do nothing until February or March and then rely on a little advertising but mainly name recognition.
    When I said typical GOP talking points, I meant the run-of-the-mill "anti-Obama and Pelosi" stuff that most GOP'ers would identify with. I meant to say I don't think he will go off on the Fed or other issues that most Fox News or CNN watchers are completely unaware of. I was pleasantly surprised when he spoke about BOTH parties' contributions to the national debt. He mentioned Byrd's pork in West Virginia but also the Bridge to Nowhere. He also talked about the Republicans campaigning as conservatives and becoming Democrats after they won, in order to keep their seats.
    He said several times that he wasn't doing this so he could get a job and also said he doesn't need this; he is doing it because he is worried about his country and wants to change Washington. He talked about how busy his days typically are; not about campaigning but rather his first job. Today he performed 7 cataract surgeries before heading to E'town to speak. This helped to illustrate that he is not just another politician.
    One guy spoke up and said although he supports Trey Grayson, if Paul wins the primary he would give him all his support. I got to speak with him after the meeting and talked of his dad's "audit the Fed" bill and how it had become watered down. He told me that the watering down is not final yet and if he was in the Senate he would support auditing the Fed as well. He said he would also try to strengthen the dollar not by just auditing the Fed but mostly through trying to make the congress spend Constitutionally. He said the first two things he would introduce would be term limit and balanced budget amendments.
    He is light years ahead of his dad as far as articulating his points. He made it a point to say that he was just staying true to the Republican platform, and not doing anything radical.
     
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    What issues has he changed on so far? I haven't really followed this all that much yet.

    I did notice that Grayson tried an attack on Paul about raising out of state money while he himself was planning a fundraiser in NY :lol:

    These guys crack me up. It's inevitable that the attacks and bullshit claims come near the end. I watched Rudy Giuliani and Steve Forbes pretty much singlehandedly kill Steve Lonegan's campaign in NJ 2 weeks before the primary, when he was still leading in the polls.

    Some bullshit spin about how he would raise taxes :rolleyes: Lonegan was the only candidate that actually spelled out a comprehensive plan to LOWER taxes.

    But taxes is the biggest buzz word here, so all it took was a couple ads funded by national party money, and they took our fence sitters and Christie won the primary.

    People need to wake the fuck up.
     
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    Wow, he's got a looker for a wife too! That should help! :lol:
     
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    Is Paul running as a Republican or Libertarian?

    I have not been following him much.

    We just got rid of a DR. Governor.
     
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    Well it's not that he really changed anything, it's just that it took him months to finally take a position on the issues and Rand's campaign has clearly made him move further to the right then he would've liked to I'm sure. He even mentions on his site that he'd support auditing the Fed.
     
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