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if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?
 
if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?



Understand, you are making the assumption that Humans are not going to judge each other.

Do you really want to continue with this assumption? Because the results become very simple.
 
Is morality evebn the correct word?
Morality is very variable. Canibals were very moral to their culture. So were slave owners. Even slave owners in the bible.

Your morals ain't my morals.
 
As an agnostic, I am not impressed with morality. With me, morality, what generation or what century you want to debate what is and what is not moral. For an example, let us take slavery. It was not until the 19 th century that slavery was universally abolished in Western Civilization. Even that slavery has been around since recorded history, slavery within the United States of America has only been abolished just less than one hundred and fifty years.

Now, before the American Civil War, people used how moral and good it was to support slavery. There was thousands of years of evidence and practice with slavery. Now, there is less than one hundred and fifty years talking about how good and in practice that slavery is immoral. Now you tell me, is moral universal century after century or it is just being politically and culturally correct.
 
Treat others as you want them to treat you and most everything will work out.

yep,
I think as communist you don't see difference between murderer like Staline and peace activist Mandela or Amnesty.
 
Morality is an agreement the strong or majority impose.

Love, is a personal thing.
 
if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?

This isn't an easy question to answer... Morality in it's simplest definition is the ability to determine right from wrong.. But there are so many things in our lives that determine right from wrong.. There is a tribe in Africa that whips their women to show respect and support for their male members of their family.. We may think it is wrong, but to them it is right..

I guess you can say that something is wrong if you think it is wrong and the society you live in dictates it is wrong..

The problem with religion and morality is the bible or other religious books never change.. So they never allow for moral growth.. There was a time when a young girl had to marry her rapist.. We have the new testament now and I guess we don't have to listen to that law anymore.. Yet somehow the the gay law is still in affect even though it is an old law as well.. I'll never figure that out..

The gay marriage debate is a good example?? Morally, I think gay marriage should be legal and already is legal under the constitution.. The 14th amendment makes it legal as marriage laws must be applied equally among all.. Which is why so many states are trying to write laws to specify that marriage is between a man and a woman.. There is no arguement to say that gay marriage is wrong except a religious one..

So?? Is homosexuality moral and is gay marriage moral??

I think anything that makes two people happy is moral.. As long as it is between to consenting adults then there shouldn't be an issue.. And if those two people want to get married as an expression of that love, then so be it.. Is it even moral to stop them??
 
Treat others as you want them to treat you and most everything will work out.

yep,
I think as communist you don't see difference between murderer like Staline and peace activist Mandela or Amnesty.

Hey now that is a Conservative Communist who is registered as a Republican :)

And I am talking true communist, none of that USSR bullcrap socialism like the USA has.
 
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if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?
1) Define good and bad. There is a difference because you define them differently. Just as red and blue are different because they are defined as different parts of the E-M spectrum, 'good' and 'bad' are defined as what is or is not desirable. Unlike red and blue, they are subjective terms and totally meaningless in meaningful discourse unless further clarified.

2) Morality: (A) instinctual or psychological repulsions to certain actions widely deemed undesirable or unacceptable, such as homicide and theft, or the wont to engage in activities deemed desirable, such as altruism (B) compliance with social ethics
 
Treat others as you want them to treat you and most everything will work out.

yep,
I think as communist you don't see difference between murderer like Staline and peace activist Mandela or Amnesty.

Hey now that is a Conservative Communist who is registered as a Republican :)

And I am talking true communist, none of that USSR bullcrap socialism like the USA has.

wait.... socialism and republicanism (support for a republic) are kinda mutually exclusive... a socialist republican, possible- a communist republican would be one very confused individual
 
☭proletarian☭;1772168 said:
yep,
I think as communist you don't see difference between murderer like Staline and peace activist Mandela or Amnesty.

Hey now that is a Conservative Communist who is registered as a Republican :)

And I am talking true communist, none of that USSR bullcrap socialism like the USA has.

wait.... socialism and republicanism (support for a republic) are kinda mutually exclusive... a socialist republican, possible- a communist republican would be one very confused individual



Socialism is a form of economic system
Republicanism is suppose to be a supporter of a type of governmental form

The two do not conflict and can merge in the sense that the person seeks to maintain a Republic form of government with socialist economic policies. See (European Nations) for examples of Socialists Republicans and Socialists Democrats.
 
☭proletarian☭;1772168 said:
yep,
I think as communist you don't see difference between murderer like Staline and peace activist Mandela or Amnesty.

Hey now that is a Conservative Communist who is registered as a Republican :)

And I am talking true communist, none of that USSR bullcrap socialism like the USA has.

wait.... socialism and republicanism (support for a republic) are kinda mutually exclusive... a socialist republican, possible- a communist republican would be one very confused individual

Are you confusing conservatives and Republicans? They are not the same thing.
 
if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?

That's exactly why the religious scare me.

How many times have you heard someone who is religious say, "If there is no God, what is to keep you from murder, robbery and rape?"

One wonders, do they know the difference between good and bad other they what they are told? Do all their morals come from a primative Middle Eastern Desert People?

Even more frightening, they are telling us what they would do if they ever lost their faith.
 
☭proletarian☭;1772168 said:
Hey now that is a Conservative Communist who is registered as a Republican :)

And I am talking true communist, none of that USSR bullcrap socialism like the USA has.

wait.... socialism and republicanism (support for a republic) are kinda mutually exclusive... a socialist republican, possible- a communist republican would be one very confused individual



Socialism is a form of economic system

We must clarify our semantics. I use the term Socialism in the original Marxist sense, where it refers to the society following the Bourgeois state marked by capitalism and the liberal ideology, prior to the development of (in Marx's vision, where we part ways) the communist state. Branches of Marxism which view this condition (think of Mao's New Democracy)) as more an end means than a step towards Marx's Utopian pipedream would develop what is now known as Social Democracy. This constitutes the reformist branch of socialist thought. Socialism is a social system which necessitates a certain type of economic system uin order to maintain it.
 
if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?

That's exactly why the religious scare me.

How many times have you heard someone who is religious say, "If there is no God, what is to keep you from murder, robbery and rape?"

One wonders, do they know the difference between good and bad other they what they are told? Do all their morals come from a primative Middle Eastern Desert People?

Even more frightening, they are telling us what they would do if they ever lost their faith.

never.

have a cookie.
 
if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?

That's exactly why the religious scare me.

How many times have you heard someone who is religious say, "If there is no God, what is to keep you from murder, robbery and rape?"

It's because the people who ask that are robbers, rapists, and murderers at their core and cannot be trusted in a civil society, as it is only fear of Hell which keeps them from starting another Inquisition or going across the world killing everyone in their way. Oft, they reconcile this by saying their god said it was okay- see the Spanish Inquisition, the expanasion of the Catholic Church, or the many genocides committed by the Jews.
 
☭proletarian☭;1772917 said:
if there is no judgement over human acts, what would be the difference between the good and the bad?

what's your definition of morality?

That's exactly why the religious scare me.

How many times have you heard someone who is religious say, "If there is no God, what is to keep you from murder, robbery and rape?"

It's because the people who ask that are robbers, rapists, and murderers at their core and cannot be trusted in a civil society, as it is only fear of Hell which keeps them from starting another Inquisition or going across the world killing everyone in their way. Oft, they reconcile this by saying their god said it was okay- see the Spanish Inquisition, the expanasion of the Catholic Church, or the many genocides committed by the Jews.

Since the conservative Christians hijacked the Republican Party, they discovered it's much easier to drop bombs, torture and kill overseas than here. Now that the Democrats have interrupted their war party, and with a black guy yet, they are steaming mad. Steaming worse than a "Bold, Fresh, Piece of Humanity" on a cold winter morning.
 

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