Public Union Rights

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  1. Wiseacre
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    I posted this in another thread, didn't get an answer. Let's see if anyone can offer a counter argument here.

    " Will somebody please tell me why the blue blazes fuck public unions should have collective bargaining rights with the very same politicians who decide their contracts? At a time when their compensation and benefits far outstrip what the private sector gets? "

    Collective bargaining rights for public unions have made governance next to impossible. Promotions, reassignments, and layoffs are so restricted by rigid rules that there's no room for managerial judgement. Consider that last year's best 1st year teacher inthe state of Wisconsin had to be lt go due to the LIFO providsions of the union contract. Anybody who claims that limiting union CB rights is an attack on education is a flatout liar or idiot who doesn't really know squat. Probably both.

    It's ridiculous. There's just no possible way state and local gov'ts are going to be able to pay for the promises they've made. They just will not have the money, and raising taxes on the rich just isn't going to make up the shortfall, not even close.
     
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    Doesn't seem to fit the definition of a "right"
     
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    It's a very simple equation. The unions give scads of money to dimocrat politicians. Those clowns love that money flowing in. They've learned to depend on it like a bunch of welfare queens. Thus there's plenty of incentive for them to keep the union stooges well paid.
     
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    Unions do contribute to pro-labor candidates and incumbents. If someone objects they should move to support campaign finance reform and condemn the USSC members who voted for Citizens United v. FEC. The should demand a Constitutional Amendment preventing political donations of any kind.
     
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    Yea, you see what happens when the people vote against crap like this. What happened in Wisconsin?? The new objective of the left is when they lose, they just call the union guys in to pay to protest something costing taxpayers even more. Sounds like extortion to me.
     
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    Please explain how it is a "right" to have collective bargaining
     
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    In black and white.
     
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    I know... blame the Public Sector because you sheep allowed the Private Sector to dismantle your wages, benefits and pensions.

    You see, when Kennedy said "A rising tide raises all boats", he wasn't referring to the already wealthy. he was referring to the workforce of America. You pay them good wages, you give them attractive benefits packages and a pension for their years of loyalty, and they will in turn keep our consumer driven economy rolling to the point where everyone makes out well.

    But that message has been lost on Conservatives. They bought into the lie of Trickle Down economics.... where if you minimize labor and give huge breaks to the wealthy ownership, then they will trickle down their windfall to the rest of society.... How's that working out? It's been 30 years and we see a Middle Class that barely has it's head above water and a massive income boost to our already wealthy citizens.

    The Public Sector is the only place that Reaganomics HASN'T trickled down to..... yet. And your Koch Sucking Politicians won't be happy until the Conglomerate controls that too... because hey.... that's more money in their benefactors' pockets. Same with Social Security and medicare.... They'd love it privatized... More money for them to profit off of... who gives a shit if they blow it... because losses.... they're subsidized... gains... they get to keep. It's a win/win for them... it's a life of elderly poverty for us.
     
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    Sounds like democracy. This wasn't an easy thing to do.
     
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    Where do you get the right to collectively bargain your employment from this?
     

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