Prop. 8 Equals Homophobia...Let's Be Honest.

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    Come on folks. We're mostly adults here. Let us speak plainly, honestly, truthfully and openly.

    Agreed: Most of the objections against Gay Marriages are based on homophobia and hate, dislike, fear and/or disgust of homosexuals.

    I like this article in the NYT:
    link to article...
     
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    Let us be honest. Why the fear to admit truth?
     
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    Where are the social conservatives? Too embarassed to acknowledge, even to themselves, that hate and fear motivates their efforts to deny a basic human right to others?
    Nah, that would require introspection.
     
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    I'm not afraid that much. I do admit that I find gay marriage immoral based on my own personal beliefs. Some people find it immoral based on their chrisitan beliefs. This is probably the main factor behind this but why is it that liberals can get on a soap box and condemn the entire world based on their morality yet christians do not?

    I'm not saying that either side has the moral highground because that is a matter of your personal choice about your own code of ethics but why is it that liberals feel that they have the right to judge others by their moral code yet deny others to do the same.
     
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    Where are the people who say they want honesty in public debate?
     
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    First, I must admit to it being an effort to take you seriously only because of how I interpret your screen name. The effort is small, but I remain leery.

    The support for gay marriage actually crosses ideological divides.

    Most people 'condemn' but true liberals very rarely do. Christians condemn as a matter of dogma.

    If you can I ask you to name me one prominent liberal who condemns the entire world. Based on anything they believe.

    All people judge. I find nothing wrong with that. I do find fault with blind and premature judgement.

    Again, please if you can...give me the name of a prominent liberal who does the above.
     
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    I speak only for myself, the moral code relevent in this discussion is defined by the 14th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. You may hold whatever bias and moral outrage you like, but to move beyond that and violate the rights of others is reprehensible and makes you more Taliban then American.
     
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    Get the government out of marriage altogether and problem solved.
     
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    As much as I would love that, I doubt the religious wingnuts would like their unions to be considered equal even legally with the Homosexuals.

    And when I say religious wingnuts, I mean the highly religious people who take things way too far.

    Again, we agree for the second time in one day. Make all current marriages civil unions, everyone has equal rights when it comes to civil unions. If people want to get married, they can go to the church.
     
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    You want plain and honest? OK.....

    Nobody really gives a flying fuck about your stupid homo probs...there's a WHOLE LOT MORE in the world to worry about than whether or not two queers can marry each other....most people would really prefer you just shut up with the ENDLESS whining.....:eusa_boohoo:
     
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