Presumption of Innocence and Voter ID

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    Presumed innocence is basic to American jurisprudence. Voter ID presumes guilt of a voter to commit
    fraud -- before a crime has been committed. Republican partiers, meet Minority Report.



    The concept of the presumption of innocence is one of the most basic in our system of justice. However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution. This basic right comes to us, like many things, from English jurisprudence, and has been a part of that system for so long, that it is considered common law. The concept is embodied in several provisions of the Constitution, however, such as the right to remain silent and the right to a jury.
     
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    The Florida Supreme Court kicked the presumption of innocence down the road two weeks ago.
     
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    I missed that what did they say?
     
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    The requirement to provide identification does not violate Innocent till proven guilty. In fact the Laws of the US REQUIRE positive Identification to vote. Requiring positive identification is a Requirement for the very right to vote.
     
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    http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/11/11-1878/Filed_07-12-2012_Opinion.pdf

    There is a presumption of guilt when an individual is in possession of illegal drugs(.) A Federal DISTRICT Court tossed the law last year, the State appealed. Rick "Vulture" Scott says he will fight it to the USSC. The FSC overrides the Federal District Judge, but all will meet in Atlanta, at the 11th Circuit.
     
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    So...requiring ID to purchase alcohol is a presumption that the buyer is underage?
     
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    Since republican's have nothing to offer this country, voter suppression is the rule of the day.
     
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    Wow. That's really dumb.
     
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    Drinking alcohol isn't a Constitutional right, vote is the most fundamental right. For those concerned about the minute amount of votes cast wrongfully, get draconian laws like Florida that keep even valid votes from being counted. The one sentence explanation by one poster here does not encompass the marathon that voting has become in some Florida counties; not only must one have photo ID, the address on the ID must match the address on the registration rolls. And the provisional ballot rules are more complex than posted also. A few people get to decide if provisional ballots will be counted; gee, I hope those select few have no biases......
     

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