Pres. Bush Faces Resistance On Immigration Reform

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    gonna be a hell of a fight... the dems may end up working together with him on this one against many republicans. this will be one to watch for sure.

     
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    This simply angers me. The whole idea of rewarding the illegal behavior of these people with documentation is simply wrong in my opinion.

    There are millions that waited their turn and got here legally that simply will look like fools. Why should I bother with the laws if all we are going to do is allow them to be flaunted in this way?

    Guest workers is fine with me. Let them register in their country and be invited in. Imagine having a flood if illegals going back to register instead of just letting them have it without regard to the legal actions of others.

    This is like spitting in the face of those who did it legally.
     
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    The guest worker program has no purpose other than to create a population of second class citizens. These "guest workers" would not be protected under the auspices of OSHA, state wage and hour boards, etc. Their presence would also act to depress the wages and benefits of US workers, furhter depressing the American standard of living.

    In short, its just another plan to support Dubbyuh's corporate pimps and johns. The rest of working America can go screw themselves for all he cares.
     
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    It's DOA
     
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    Even currently these illegal immigrants would be protected under OSHA. They can sue and have in places for better working conditions.

    They then would be documented and taxed and therefore would fall under the correct wage structures, thus decreasing the positive aspect of hiring under-the-table illegal immigrants.

    I have no problem allowing guest workers, just with allowing those that illegally entered the country this benefit.
     
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    Well I hate to tell y'all but these illegals you speak of are going to stay, whether has citizens or something else I don't know but stay they will. They are much much too important to many western state economies and nobody has the wherewithall or the money to undertake such a massive operation as massive deportation. The only sensible thing to do is amnesty.
     
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    Only if in the future they actually do sanction companies that violate the laws by hiring illegal immigrants would this be the only thing to do. If all we do is give amnesty but continue in the same way we then have simply stated that immigration laws should just be removed entirely and that we will not enforce them if you simply move here and never go away.
     
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    Nobody is saying to just leave things as they are and let everybody and their brother in the country, the answer is to grant amnesty to illegals already here(provided they have not committed any crime while in country, and before anybody says it this excludes the "illegal entry into the country crime") and then to make those borders a friggin steel wall. The expense and manpower it would take to achieve a mass deportation of illegals is not what this economy needs at the moment not to mention the irrepairable harm it would cause economies such as California.

    Also it is not really big companies who are hiring illegals, its your independent contractors and your farmers who do most of the hiring, they need these guys because lets face it, most natives here won't do that type of grunt work in those conditions.
     
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    However Bush shows no signs of actually making the border a steel wall. It seems to me that he shows more signs of keeping the status quo. It is definitely one thing that irritates me about the guy.
     

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