poor black kids who do everything right do worse than rich white kids who do everything wrong


First we started with the statement "Poor whites are racist". Then when I challenged you to prove someone claimed that "All" poor whites are racist.....now you change the tune to "the majority of whites". Again, I asked you to defend your statement that liberals were saying that all poor whites are racist. Where? Who said that?


Are you trying to deny that rural whites are depicted by the media as racist?
"Racism" Is a Falsely Toned Word Rising Out of the Camelot Delusion

You've got it backwards. "Racists" are portrayed as dumb drooling hick sadists, when they are really proud average Americans with principles. Black behavior doesn't fit the guiding principles of any civilized, productive, and stable society.
 
Not so. But your psychosis has not allowed you to learn that whites have never pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps.

Sorry sweetheart ... That's your psychosis ... Not mine.

You cannot attempt to argue both sides ... Either white people have someone else to blame for their failures or they don't.
And the attitude that something "can't" be done ... Is detrimental to achieving any goal.

Those are facts no matter how you try to argue any different ... :thup:
And both ideas are how you manage success ... Responsibility, initiative and action.

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Your psychosis has allowed you to ignore some 200 years of American law and public policy.

Whites are were they are due to legislation. Is that clear enough for you to understand?
 

First we started with the statement "Poor whites are racist". Then when I challenged you to prove someone claimed that "All" poor whites are racist.....now you change the tune to "the majority of whites". Again, I asked you to defend your statement that liberals were saying that all poor whites are racist. Where? Who said that?


Are you trying to deny that rural whites are depicted by the media as racist?
"Racism" Is a Falsely Toned Word Rising Out of the Camelot Delusion

You've got it backwards. "Racists" are portrayed as dumb drooling hick sadists, when they are really proud average Americans with principles. Black behavior doesn't fit the guiding principles of any civilized, productive, and stable society.

This person exhibits a very clear case of psychosis.
 
Wow a bit of truth on race and privilege. But there is also the resentment many whites who have not grown up in wealthier families demonstrate, Trump appeals to these people even though he'd have nothing to do with them. His rallies are examples, how many of the people behind him could even afford a Mar-a-Lago membership. It is all talk and BS.

I Know Why Poor Whites Chant Trump, Trump, Trump

I read your linked article even though it was pretty tedious by the end. There's nothing new about the argument that poor white people vote against their own interests by siding with Republicans who only care about the rich, or that the only reason they do so is because they're racist and fall for "dogwhistles" like campaigning against mass immigration. I guess the author thinks that by painting whitey in a sympathetic light as a victim of evil rich people that they're more likely to submit to her thinly veiled appeal for a Communist Utopia. ...she might be right, because people are stupid and don't know anything about history and all the times that socialist revolutions have failed catastrophically.

Never mind that most of her story of living and working the poor, rural white life sounds like pure fiction especially when the two "klansmen" give her a hard time because of the hat she's wearing. It's interesting that even though the basis of her article is that poor whites are horrible racists...they defended her against those two. I know from experience that most poor rural white people don't have time for being racist, too busy trying to make ends meet. They're less interested in politics than they are in petty family drama, televised sports and self destructive habits.

They're probably the least racist people in the country, because they simply don't care...about anything, except for the here and now. Not entirely different from inner city blacks except for the high rate of crime and the culture of "blame whitey" victimhood.

I wonder how many whites actually suffer from the psychosis this person does.
 
Your psychosis has allowed you to ignore some 200 years of American law and public policy.

Whites are were they are due to legislation. Is that clear enough for you to understand?

I am not ignoring anything ... Especially law or public policy.

You don't seem to understand I am not 200 years old ... So let me make it clear ...
I am not 200 years old and have no responsibility towards what anyone else did before I was born.

If you have a problem with legislation as it is today ... Do what you want to do to fix it.
If you want something in regards to what someone else did ... Before either of us was born ... Go pound sand.

If you have a problem with the fact you are black ... Take that up with your parents ... I had nothing to do with that either ... :thup:

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Your psychosis has allowed you to ignore some 200 years of American law and public policy.

Whites are were they are due to legislation. Is that clear enough for you to understand?

I am not ignoring anything ... Especially law or public policy.

You don't seem to understand I am not 200 years old ... So let me make it clear ...
I am not 200 years old and have no responsibility towards what anyone else did before I was born.

If you have a problem with legislation as it is today ... Do what you want to do to fix it.
If you want something in regards to what someone else did ... Before either of us was born ... Go pound sand.

If you have a problem with the fact you are black ... Take that up with your parents ... I had nothing to do with that either ... :thup:

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It doesn't matter if you are not 200 years old, you ignore the 200 years of law and policy which includes right now. So try another cliche idiot.

So just remember to not celebrate the fourth of July from now on, because you are not responsible for what anyone else did before you were born. You also might want to cancel Christmas as well.

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It doesn't matter if you are not 200 yeas old, you ignore the 200 years of law and policy which includes right now. So try another cliche idiot.

So just remember to not celebrate the fourth of July from now on, because you are not responsible for what anyone else did before you were born. You also might want to cancel Christmas as well.

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I am not ignoring anything ... No matter how many times you suggest otherwise.
I cannot time travel to the past and make it any different ... Talking to me about your problems with it means nothing ... You cannot change the past.


I had absolutely nothing to do with the 200 years of history you are talking about ... I'm simply not that old ... :thup:

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. . . and some people are born taller than others, and some people are born better looking than others, and some people are born smarter than others.
Exactly...just because rich kids are born with wealth does not preclude other from acquiring it. Wealth is not finite.
A Seed Doesn't Grow in a Sandbox

It is a Negative Sum. Placing inferior people in unearned positions makes it dwindle away.

I think you might be contradicting what you just said regarding the class ladder and the heiristocracy (nice turn of phrase, I like that one).

If the heirs are the ones that set all the rules to financial success, why does the setup still allow for heirs to fail and their dynasties to crumble beneath them when they're not competent?

Seems like the rules favor not only those who inherit advantages from their predecessors (which, by the way, is the same in literally any economic system you might hope to erect), but also those who are competent (also the same in any system).
 
. . . and some people are born taller than others, and some people are born better looking than others, and some people are born smarter than others.
Exactly...just because rich kids are born with wealth does not preclude other from acquiring it. Wealth is not finite.
A Seed Doesn't Grow in a Sandbox

It is a Negative Sum. Placing inferior people in unearned positions makes it dwindle away.
Trump is a fine example of that.
 

First we started with the statement "Poor whites are racist". Then when I challenged you to prove someone claimed that "All" poor whites are racist.....now you change the tune to "the majority of whites". Again, I asked you to defend your statement that liberals were saying that all poor whites are racist. Where? Who said that?


Are you trying to deny that rural whites are depicted by the media as racist?
The media isn't choreographing the poor whites they interview. All the media does is put a camera in their faces and let em talk.
What you see is what you get. Your acknowledgement that unexpurgated racism
In the raw surfaced when questions of race were raised, is not based on an illusion that the media is responsible. Its based on the true feelings of the interviewees. Just thought you'd like to know....tee hee.
 
It doesn't matter if you are not 200 yeas old, you ignore the 200 years of law and policy which includes right now. So try another cliche idiot.

So just remember to not celebrate the fourth of July from now on, because you are not responsible for what anyone else did before you were born. You also might want to cancel Christmas as well.

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I am not ignoring anything ... No matter how many times you suggest otherwise.
I cannot time travel to the past and make it any different ... Talking to me about your problems with it means nothing ... You cannot change the past.


I had absolutely nothing to do with the 200 years of history you are talking about ... I'm simply not that old ... :thup:

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You can stop using that one any time.
 
You can stop using that one any time.

Why would I ... That's the fact ... And nothing else is necessary?

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Since the 200 years includes years during your life up to right now, it is not a fact. This is a excuse used by cowardly whites who can't' face the truth. You benefitted from that past. Your white asses have NEVER pulled yourselves up by your bootstraps without the help of government. At ANY time. Including right now.
 
Since the 200 years includes years during your life up to right now, it is not a fact. This is a excuse used by cowardly whites who can't' face the truth. You benefitted from that past. Your white asses have NEVER pulled yourselves up by your bootstraps without the help of government. At ANY time. Including right now.

I left the military with a duffle bag of civilian clothes, a bus ticket to my home town and a little over $6200 in saving.
What I have now is simply the result of what I have managed to achieve from that point ... And nothing more.

If you cannot or will not do what is necessary to achieve your goals, by your ambitions, and your efforts .. I don't give a damn what your excuse is ... Period.
Blame me ... Blame 200 years of history ... See how far that gets your sorry ass ... :thup:

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It doesn't matter if you are not 200 yeas old, you ignore the 200 years of law and policy which includes right now. So try another cliche idiot.

So just remember to not celebrate the fourth of July from now on, because you are not responsible for what anyone else did before you were born. You also might want to cancel Christmas as well.

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I am not ignoring anything ... No matter how many times you suggest otherwise.
I cannot time travel to the past and make it any different ... Talking to me about your problems with it means nothing ... You cannot change the past.


I had absolutely nothing to do with the 200 years of history you are talking about ... I'm simply not that old ... :thup:

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The Origin of Black-on-Black Crime

Every slave who wasn't born here had participated in the African slave trade before he himself was captured. The Whiteys Hating Whitey, who write the script for their Black puppets, are trying to make it seem like all the enslaved had been innocent victims and all the descendants of the slave-hunting tribes still live in Africa.
 
. . . and some people are born taller than others, and some people are born better looking than others, and some people are born smarter than others.
Exactly...just because rich kids are born with wealth does not preclude other from acquiring it. Wealth is not finite.
A Seed Doesn't Grow in a Sandbox

It is a Negative Sum. Placing inferior people in unearned positions makes it dwindle away.

I think you might be contradicting what you just said regarding the class ladder and the heiristocracy (nice turn of phrase, I like that one).

If the heirs are the ones that set all the rules to financial success, why does the setup still allow for heirs to fail and their dynasties to crumble beneath them when they're not competent?

Seems like the rules favor not only those who inherit advantages from their predecessors (which, by the way, is the same in literally any economic system you might hope to erect), but also those who are competent (also the same in any system).
Inheritance Is the Hidden Cancer That Has Destroyed All Civilizations

The exception proves the rule. When a few spoiled brats lose it all, it says nothing about their overwhelming undeserved advantages and their absolute control over the rules for letting wannabes make it. In fact, one of the class-climbers' mottoes is, "You have to want it bad enough."

To be fair, it is only logical that 1% of those born in the 1% who wind up in the 1% actually belong there. But even those deserving successes make far more than 1%ers should. There should be no billionaires. So if Bill Gates is worth $50 billion, he ought to be worth $50 million but maintain his same rank among the wealthy.

If Aaron Judge hit 300 homers in a season, he'd still have only 50-homer talent. So conditions would have to change, such as giving every player the right to appoint his son to his position, which would conform to the prevailing economic structure. In that situation, the pitchers would be far inferior to what they are today.
 
. . . and some people are born taller than others, and some people are born better looking than others, and some people are born smarter than others.
Exactly...just because rich kids are born with wealth does not preclude other from acquiring it. Wealth is not finite.
A Seed Doesn't Grow in a Sandbox

It is a Negative Sum. Placing inferior people in unearned positions makes it dwindle away.

I think you might be contradicting what you just said regarding the class ladder and the heiristocracy (nice turn of phrase, I like that one).

If the heirs are the ones that set all the rules to financial success, why does the setup still allow for heirs to fail and their dynasties to crumble beneath them when they're not competent?

Seems like the rules favor not only those who inherit advantages from their predecessors (which, by the way, is the same in literally any economic system you might hope to erect), but also those who are competent (also the same in any system).
Inheritance Is the Hidden Cancer That Has Destroyed All Civilizations

The exception proves the rule. When a few spoiled brats lose it all, it says nothing about their overwhelming undeserved advantages and their absolute control over the rules for letting wannabes make it. In fact, one of the class-climbers' mottoes is, "You have to want it bad enough."

To be fair, it is only logical that 1% of those born in the 1% who wind up in the 1% actually belong there. But even those deserving successes make far more than 1%ers should. There should be no billionaires. So if Bill Gates is worth $50 billion, he ought to be worth $50 million but maintain his same rank among the wealthy.

If Aaron Judge hit 300 homers in a season, he'd still have only 50-homer talent. So conditions would have to change, such as giving every player the right to appoint his son to his position, which would conform to the prevailing economic structure. In that situation, the pitchers would be far inferior to what they are today.

I don't agree that there should be no billionaires, and although the people who inherit the fortunes of wealthy predecessors often don't represent the most capable hands into which those fortunes could have landed, I don't believe that you or I or anyone else ought to have the authority to tell the predecessor who initially created and gathered that wealth what they have to do with it when they die. I don't share your obvious authoritarian streak, and I tend to celebrate great success, not decry it.
 
The Origin of Black-on-Black Crime

Every slave who wasn't born here had participated in the African slave trade before he himself was captured. The Whiteys Hating Whitey, who write the script for their Black puppets, are trying to make it seem like all the enslaved had been innocent victims and all the descendants of the slave-hunting tribes still live in Africa.

My point was more along the lines of I don't give a damn who traded who ...
Don't really care what any whitey you are referring to has to say about it ...
Not too keen on what a bunch of non-whitey folks have to say about it either ...
Because none of it serves any worthwhile purpose towards anything I may want to achieve.

Race based issues ... Have nothing to offer but the attempt to put chains on someone.
That's not productive to business ... And won't accomplish anything I am interested in.

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. . . and some people are born taller than others, and some people are born better looking than others, and some people are born smarter than others.

Why are you ok with a rigged system that isn't fair to you or black people?

Here is an example of how unfair our society is

Manhattan DA reportedly dropped felony fraud case against Trump's kids after donation from Trump's lawyer

If you did what Ivanka did, you'd be in jail. The DA would have charged you because your lawyer didn't donate to his re election campaign.

So if we know the system is rigged to benefit rich people, how come you have a hard time seeing that the system is rigged to hurt poor people and/or black people?

To me it's obvious. You may not care about black people or poor people but that doesn't change the fact that the system is rigged.

We can all agree the system is rigged to benefit the rich but you aren't willing to fix that either. So don't deny the system is rigged when we all know it is. Just explain to us why you don't care to fix it. Is it because you are rich? You don't feel like it hurts you so you're ok with it?
 
. . . and some people are born taller than others, and some people are born better looking than others, and some people are born smarter than others.
Exactly...just because rich kids are born with wealth does not preclude other from acquiring it. Wealth is not finite.
A Seed Doesn't Grow in a Sandbox

It is a Negative Sum. Placing inferior people in unearned positions makes it dwindle away.

I think you might be contradicting what you just said regarding the class ladder and the heiristocracy (nice turn of phrase, I like that one).

If the heirs are the ones that set all the rules to financial success, why does the setup still allow for heirs to fail and their dynasties to crumble beneath them when they're not competent?

Seems like the rules favor not only those who inherit advantages from their predecessors (which, by the way, is the same in literally any economic system you might hope to erect), but also those who are competent (also the same in any system).
Inheritance Is the Hidden Cancer That Has Destroyed All Civilizations

The exception proves the rule. When a few spoiled brats lose it all, it says nothing about their overwhelming undeserved advantages and their absolute control over the rules for letting wannabes make it. In fact, one of the class-climbers' mottoes is, "You have to want it bad enough."

To be fair, it is only logical that 1% of those born in the 1% who wind up in the 1% actually belong there. But even those deserving successes make far more than 1%ers should. There should be no billionaires. So if Bill Gates is worth $50 billion, he ought to be worth $50 million but maintain his same rank among the wealthy.

If Aaron Judge hit 300 homers in a season, he'd still have only 50-homer talent. So conditions would have to change, such as giving every player the right to appoint his son to his position, which would conform to the prevailing economic structure. In that situation, the pitchers would be far inferior to what they are today.

I don't agree that there should be no billionaires, and although the people who inherit the fortunes of wealthy predecessors often don't represent the most capable hands into which those fortunes could have landed, I don't believe that you or I or anyone else ought to have the authority to tell the predecessor who initially created and gathered that wealth what they have to do with it when they die. I don't share your obvious authoritarian streak, and I tend to celebrate great success, not decry it.

How Rich is Too Rich For Democracy?

Thomas Jefferson explicitly suggested that if individuals became so rich that their wealth could influence or challenge government, then their wealth should be decreased upon their death. He wrote, "If the overgrown wealth of an individual be deemed dangerous to the State, the best corrective is the law of equal inheritance to all in equal degree..."

"an enormous proportion of property vested in a few individuals is dangerous to the rights, and destructive of the common happiness of mankind, and, therefore, every free state hath a right by its laws to discourage the possession of such property."

Since the so-called "Reagan revolution" more than cut in half the income taxes the multimillionaires and billionaires among us pay, wealth has concentrated in America in ways not seen since the era of the Robber Barons, or, before that, pre-revolutionary colonial times. At the same time, poverty has exploded and the middle class is under economic siege.

And now come the oligarchs - the most wealthy and powerful families of America - lobbying Congress that they should retain their stupefying levels of wealth and the power it brings, generation after generation. They say that democracy doesn't require a strong middle class, and that Jefferson was wrong when he said that "overgrown wealth" could be "dangerous to the State." They say that a permanent, hereditary, aristocratically rich ruling class is actually a good thing for the stability of society.

While a $1.5 million trigger for the estate tax is arguably too low - particularly given the recent bubble in real estate prices - that doesn't invalidate the concept of a democracy defending itself against oligarchy. Set the trigger at 10 million, or fifty million. Make sure that family farms and small businesses are protected. And make sure that people who have worked hard and earned a lot of money can have children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren who will live very comfortably.

But let's also make sure that we don't end up like so many Latin American countries, where a handful of super-rich families rule their nations, and democracy is more show than substance.

The Founders of our republic fought a war against an aristocratic, oligarchic nation, and were very clear that they didn't want America to ever degenerate into aristocracy, oligarchy, or feudalism/fascism. We must hold to their vision of an egalitarian, democratic republic.

Now the Estate Tax is before the Senate. Encourage your US Senator to fight against mega-millionaire and US Senate leader Bill Frist, and to keep the estate tax intact.
 

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