POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill

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POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

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I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

 

[TheOldSchool]

 

[OKTexas]

POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

 

[TheOldSchool]

POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

 

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POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Really? Hmm, I truly wish you had the right of standing in a court so you could be laughed out of there as well as here.

 

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POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

And her misreading of how bills originate will be precious

 

[OKTexas]

POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

How about you go to your pocket Constitution and tell me where a revenue raising bill MUST originate, then consider the Senate bill had such provisions, then get back to me.

 

[Little-Acorn]

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration

Every President until Obama has used Executive Orders to carry out the immigration laws Congress had passed.

Obama is the first to use Executive Orders to violate immigration laws that Congress has passed.

A distinction that is missed every time, by the usual liberal fanatics.

Despite their being told over and over.

Pearls to swine.

(yawn)

 

[OKTexas]

POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

And her misreading of how bills originate will be prescious

No misreading involved oh ignorant one. Check out article 1, section 7, clause 1.

Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

 

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POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

How about you go to your pocket Constitution and tell me where a revenue raising bill MUST originate, then consider the Senate bill had such provisions, then get back to me.

Thank you for stepping up.

Start with a few undisputed facts:
1) Speaker Boner has refused to bring up the bi-partisan Senate bill for a vote.

2) Speaker Boner insisted on only bringing up smaller immigration bills, one at a time and only those that have the support of the majority of his Republican caucus.

3) Speaker Boner has said nothing about the constitutionality of the bill as a reason for it not being brought up for a vote

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Nothing that has been proposed is going to fix the problem

 

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"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration

Every President until Obama has used Executive Orders to carry out the immigration laws Congress had passed.

Obama is the first to use Executive Orders to violate immigration laws that Congress has passed.

A distinction that is missed every time, by the usual liberal fanatics.

Despite their being told over and over.

Pearls to swine.

(yawn)

Good gawd, does the right wing noise machine know you are resorting to nuance? Nuance?

btw, using his executive power does not equate to violation of any law. The President is NOT violating any law. If he were he'd be in court and he'd surely lose with the court we have

Pushing back on Republicans who have blasted Obama’s action as unconstitutional and unlawful, the signatories include Columbia University President Lee Bollinger, Harvard Law School Professor Laurence Tribe, conservative legal scholar Eric Posner, and former Yale Law School Dean and former State Department Legal Advisor Harold Hongju Koh.

“While we differ among ourselves on many issues relating to Presidential power and immigration policy, we are all of the view that these actions are lawful,” the professors wrote. “They are exercises of prosecutorial discretion that are consistent with governing law and with the policies that Congress has expressed in the statutes that it has enacted.” - Obama s Immigration Move Legal Say Law Scholars

 

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POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

And her misreading of how bills originate will be prescious

No misreading involved oh ignorant one. Check out article 1, section 7, clause 1.

Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

Well I guess you, a big right wing blowhard on the internet know better than the GOP Senate and House Leadership

 

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Nothing that has been proposed is going to fix the problem

Then shut up. :lol;

 

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Geeze, the wingers ought at least be scolded to use credible links with real world arguments Guide to the Constitution | House Threatens Blue Slip in the Face of the Senate Wilson Center as opposed to Social Media rants and Tea Party email chain letters

In Las Vegas, President Obama cut through the angry rhetoric and BS on immigration and explained to the American people that it was John Boehner who forced Obama to act alone by refusing to allow a vote on the Senate passed immigration bill.

The president said,

It has now been 512 days. A year in a half in which the only standing in the way of that bipartisan bill and my desk so that I can sign that bill. The only thing standing in the way is a simple yes or no vote in the House of Representatives. Just a yes or no vote. If they had allowed a vote on that kind of bill, it would have passed. I would have signed it. It would be the law right now. These leaders right here tried to make it happen. Nancy Pelosi kept on saying to John Boehner let’s just call the bill, see where it goes.

There are Republicans who worked hard on this bill too, and they deserve credit. Because even though it wasn’t necessarily popular in their party, they knew it was the right thing to do. But despite that, the party leadership in the House of Representatives would not let it come forward, and I cajoled and I called and I met. I told John Boehner I’ll wash your car. I’ll walk your dog. Whatever you need to do just call the bill. That’s how democracy’s supposed to work. And if the votes hadn’t been there, we would have had to start over, and he didn’t do it. But at least give it a shot, and he didn’t do it

 

[OKTexas]

POLITICS AS THE ART OF COMPROMISE: In Historic Vote, Senate Passes Bipartisan Immigration Bill​

Part of the title above comes from a headline in Time June 27, 2013

"The measure was approved" on Thursday, June 12, 2014 by a vote of "68 to 32, with 14 Republicans joining all 52 Democrats and two Democratic-leaning independents to back the bill."

What happened to that bill? Politics. That is why this thread is in the politics section and not the Immigration section. Let us discuss the politics of the situation if not the bill.

--

I believe the Speaker of the US House has held it up hoping President Obama would do something like take the action he did the other day. This is Speaker Boner covering his flank and not looking out for the best interests of his party, or the US House, or the people/nation. The Tea Party has hijacked the GOP primary system.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/26/us/obamas-immigration-action-reinvigorates-tea-party.html

GOP Lie Debunked Every President Since Eisenhower Used Executive Authority On Immigration

"It is noteworthy that every president since and including Republican Dwight D. Eisenhower has taken executive action on immigration without facing threats of lawsuits, government shutdowns, impeachment, or loss of executive authority; because they were white. No American dare ever say the current crop of Republicans, teabaggers, conservative pundits, and conservative media are not inherently racist, hypocritical, and living representations of vile inhumanity. Fortunately, history will portray them for exactly what they are; hypocritical and inhumane racists who hate immigrants just as much as they hate the African American man occupying the White House."

Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

And her misreading of how bills originate will be prescious

No misreading involved oh ignorant one. Check out article 1, section 7, clause 1.

Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

Well I guess you, a big right wing blowhard on the internet know better than the GOP Senate and House Leadership

Leave it to the dainty boy to refuse to believe his own eyes, can't even read the clear verbiage of the Constitution and understand it. More proof that ignorance is bliss and truth means nothing to the commiecrats.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Looks like the usual liberals, when refuted, still can do nothing but repeat even more lies and tell conservatives to shut up.

Elections have consequences. One of them is to drive liberal fanatics even more insane than they usually are.

My sympathies.

 

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Why is it you fucking idiots of the left seem to have a total inability to understand that the Senate bill was unconstitutional?

Not everything that you don't like is unconstitutional.

And her misreading of how bills originate will be prescious

No misreading involved oh ignorant one. Check out article 1, section 7, clause 1.

Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.

Well I guess you, a big right wing blowhard on the internet know better than the GOP Senate and House Leadership

Leave it to the dainty boy to refuse to believe his own eyes, can't even read the clear verbiage of the Constitution and understand it. More proof that ignorance is bliss and truth means nothing to the commiecrats.

Take the argument to court and lose.

The Texas Chain-mail Mass-mailer strikes again. Can't read the history of how the argument has been used and how it has fared in the courts?

 

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Looks like the usual liberals, when refuted, still can do nothing but repeat even more lies and tell conservatives to shut up.

Elections have consequences. One of them is to drive liberal fanatics even more insane than they usually are.

My sympathies.

Yeah, 2012 and Karl Rove's meltdown was hilarious. More funny was McConnell's attempt to make Obama a one-term President. Then of course there are the whack-a-doodle-doo attempts to trash the PPACA/ACA/Obamacre

 

[Judicial review]

The next republican congress will improve it and send it back to senate then to presidents desk to force his hand. Idiots.