red states rule
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why then pray tell did the grand jury and special prosecutors not bring forth charges?
uh, there was no crime - she was NOT a covert agent - just a paper pusher
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why then pray tell did the grand jury and special prosecutors not bring forth charges?
why then pray tell did the grand jury and special prosecutors not bring forth charges?
why then pray tell did the grand jury and special prosecutors not bring forth charges?
uh, there was no crime - she was NOT a covert agent - just a paper pusher
Because 'Scooter' lied to FBI investigators and perjured himself before a Grand Jury, thus obstructing the investigation into the release of Ms. Plame's identity.
Plame was never outed by anyone in the White House - she outed herself. The Bush haters and the liberal media have tried to turn this farce of a trial into something it is not
Do you have anything, from independent sources, whether public record or news media, to support that allegation? Or are you, as usual, parroting the right-wing spin?
Do you have anything from independent sources, whether public record or news media, to support that allegation? Or are you, as usual, parroting the right-wing spin?
In her testimony/PR tour this week, Plame herself admitted that she herself did not know if her position legally qualified as covert.
She also said she did not get Wilson the assignment in Niger - which is another lie. It has been proven in earlier hearings that she did recommend him.
She also said she did not get Wilson the assignment in Niger - which is another lie. It has been proven in earlier hearings that she did recommend him.
Joe Wilson's Top Ten Worst Inaccuracies And Misstatements
Let's look at a few facts here:
1. The CIA filed a crime report with the DoJ following the publication of Novak's column in which Ms. Plame's name and position with the CIA were released.
2. Fitzgerald repeatedly stated that her position with the CIA was classified.
3. General Hayden, Chimpy's pick for DCIA confirmed that Ms. Plame's position with the CIA was classified.
4. Ms. Plame testified, under oath, that her position with the CIA was classified.
These facts render all the right wing noise machine's spin irrelevant. But it's only a crime to blow the cover of a CIA operative if you're not a loyal supporter, or member, of the Bush Administration. So don't let a few facts stand in the way of your delusions.
Let's DO look at a few facts.
Plame had been brought in from under cover 3 years prior to her cover being compromised. The standard amount fo time to maintain cover after leaving the field is 2 years.
Why the extra time?
If her cover was in fact so important, why was she driving in and out the front gate at CIA headquarters every day? Even an ardent Bush-basher such as yourself should be able to recognize the legitimacy of THAT.
If Plame had no play in Wilson getting the job, how' he get it? I haven't seen that he was qualified to sell Boy Scout cookies, much less front the CIA on a trip to Africa.
Doesn't it stand to reason that had Plame's cover been so important, that hubby might have considered this before grandstanding to the media and drawing public attention/scrutiny on hmself?
You're quick to malign the "right wing noise machine's spin," but refuse to see the Left Wing Puritan Witch Hunters playing fast and loose with the facts so long as they have a body to burn at the stake when it's over.
So you're saying General Hayden is either mistaken or lying? You're saying Patrick Fitzgerald is either mistaken or lying?
" 'I did not suggest him,' she said. 'There was no nepotism involved. I didn't have the authority.' " - Valerie Plame, 3/16/07
The suggestion that Ms. Plame perjured herself with that testimony is based on testimony which has since been recanted by the CIA official who made it. FOX Noise simply, uncritically repeated this canard in the form of Brit Hume on Sunday.
If speaking out against an Administration which mislead this nation into an illegal and immoral war is grandstanding, I would suggest we should always have such grand-standers questioning every administration.
Your characterization of the oversight duties, long abdicated by a Republican majority in Congress, as a 'witch hunt' indicates that you are more than willing to turn a blind eye to this administration's excesses and corruption of the ideals this nation was founded upon. Be careful what you wish for.
Gosh, you must have been watching Brit Hume on FOX Noise Sunday. The fact is that Ms. Plame DID NOT "get" her husband any assignment. The testimony that assertion was based on has long since been recanted by the CIA official who made it.
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The facts stand on their own merit, and no amount of spin by FOX Noise and others on the right, including folks like you, who are part of its echo chamber will change that. Your utterances are but a tale told by an idiot...All sound and fury, signifying nothing.