Physicists Just Achieved The First-Ever Quantum Teleportation Between Computer Chips, information passed between chips

[westwall]

i may be wrong but its my understanding that scientist arent really sure what gravity really is or something like that .

Scientists can only know computational models in physics. These are successful except on the galactic scale and larger. Things like what gravity "really is" falls under metaphysics. Science often does answer the metaphysical questions with new theories, but they are left with a new metaphysical level to ponder.
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No it doesn't. We don't understand gravity because we haven't made the instruments necessary to help define it.

Claiming it is the realm of meta physics is a cop out.

I disagree. Instruments don't define a physical concept. They are used to gather data. The most useful instruments to that end are telescopes that record effects of gravity on celestial motions.
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Yes, instruments gather data, that ALLOWS you to define a physical concept.

 

[justinacolmena]

Hypothetically, quantum entanglement can work over any distance. Two particles get inextricably linked together, which means looking at one tells us something about the other, wherever it is (in this case, on a separate computer chip).

"Entanglement" as such is overrated and incapable of transmitting information.

It's more a quantum "bookkeeping" whack-a-mole down here and measure it come up there where it has to be a constant sum.

There is something irreversible that happens on the quantum level with the inevitable "collapse of the wave function" whereby energy in a form available to do useful work is dissipated as waste heat.

 

[esalla]

Hypothetically, quantum entanglement can work over any distance. Two particles get inextricably linked together, which means looking at one tells us something about the other, wherever it is (in this case, on a separate computer chip).

"Entanglement" as such is overrated and incapable of transmitting information.

It's more a quantum "bookkeeping" whack-a-mole down here and measure it come up there where it has to be a constant sum.

There is something irreversible that happens on the quantum level with the inevitable "collapse of the wave function" whereby energy in a form available to do useful work is dissipated as waste heat.

That is what IBM said about mice and licencing an operating system

LOL, what is true love?

 

[yidnar]

maybe one particle reacts to another particle instantly over distance is because they once shared the same space and gravity ??

 

[justinacolmena]

maybe one particle reacts to another particle instantly over distance is because they once shared the same space and gravity ??

No. It's just bookkeeping. You flip a coin on a glass table, someone observes from above, someone else observes from below.

You are looking at two aspects of the same particle that have to add up to the same thing. I don't buy that "entanglement" stuff. There's a problem of "too much information" — more than what is actually possible in real (classical) life.

 

[esalla]

maybe one particle reacts to another particle instantly over distance is because they once shared the same space and gravity ??

No. It's just bookkeeping. You flip a coin on a glass table, someone observes from above, someone else observes from below.

You are looking at two aspects of the same particle that have to add up to the same thing. I don't buy that "entanglement" stuff. There's a problem of "too much information" — more than what is actually possible in real (classical) life.

Life is not defined, neither are time and space.

 

[there4eyeM]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

 

[esalla]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

Sadly even though brilliant minds are making the process work, no one understands what is happening. This is not new, but we had thought that science was closing doors and now so many might have just opened at once that much of science will soon be amended as the quantum world may not be stranger than we imagine it might be stranger than we can imagine.

Simply put your guess is as good as anyone's and the people who studied physics for 20 years are really pissed that they know less than the person who went right to work

 

[zaangalewa]

Without all that crap of above, with a simple home made experiment I can prove without doubt that you observe the entire universe in its current and present status.

I discovered the Law of Perception which rules that we and our instruments perceive the universe in its present only.

This is telling you that regardless of distance and without the need of considering any speed for light, you are receiving the present information of what is happenming right now in the cosmos from any place of the universe.

With this Law of Perception, the superfluous idea that we observe galaxies as they were in their past, is a debunked idea invented because ignorance.

I can see that finally my great discovery is being backed up. This Law I discovered was also registered for copyrights at the Library of Congress.

Tell me please what the xrlxs discuss about in Eridani IV.

 

[there4eyeM]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

 

[esalla]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

 

[there4eyeM]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

 

[esalla]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

Nothing known connects time to anything.

Time is hard to even describe as when you describe time you are actually describing the effects of time on physical things but not time itself

 

[zaangalewa]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

Nothing known connects time to anything.

The theory of relativity connects time and space to "spactime". Gravitation bends spacetime - what has measurable effects as well in space and time. So we may say gravitation connects space and time.

Time is hard to even describe as when you describe time you are actually describing the effects of time on physical things but not time itself

The NIST in Boulder makes optical atomic clocks. This clocks are able to measure time in atto-seconds. 17 decimals. That's an accuracy of 0.00000000000000001 seconds.

But even a normal atomic clock, which exist since decades, has only a deviation of 1 second per 100 million years. We are able to measure time better (= more accurate) than anything else.

 

[esalla]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

Nothing known connects time to anything.

The theory of relativity connects time and space to "spactime". Gravitation bends spacetime - what has measurable effects as well in space and time. So we may say gravitation connects space and time.

Time is hard to even describe as when you describe time you are actually describing the effects of time on physical things but not time itself

The NIST in Boulder makes optical atomic clocks. This clocks are able to measure time in atto-seconds. 17 decimals. That's an accuracy of 0.00000000000000001 seconds.

But even a normal atomic clock, which exist since decades, has only a deviation of 1 second per 100 million years. We are able to measure time better (= more accurate) than anything else.

Theory is not reality and relativity prohibits entire galaxies from moving faster than light. So relativity is just not proven which is why tyson believes that everything is a simulation

 

[Wuwei]

Theory is not reality and relativity prohibits entire galaxies from moving faster than light. So relativity is just not proven which is why tyson believes that everything is a simulation

The current thinking is that space itself is what is expanding faster than light. Relativity is a local theory.

Is Everything in the Universe Expanding?

The Universe is expanding. Distant galaxies are moving away from us in all directions. It’s natural to wonder, is everything expanding? Is the Milky Way expanding? What about the Solar System, or even objects here on Earth. Are atoms expanding? Nope. The only thing expanding is space itself...

www.universetoday.com

Relativity is not why Tyson considers a simulation. His reason is a bit odd. Tyson thinks it could be an infinite nesting of simulations. "Simulations all the way down." We could be a simulation created by a simulated "kid in a basement" creating a world for entertainment. He never mentioned relativity.

 

[esalla]

Theory is not reality and relativity prohibits entire galaxies from moving faster than light. So relativity is just not proven which is why tyson believes that everything is a simulation

The current thinking is that space itself is what is expanding faster than light. Relativity is a local theory.

Is Everything in the Universe Expanding?

The Universe is expanding. Distant galaxies are moving away from us in all directions. It’s natural to wonder, is everything expanding? Is the Milky Way expanding? What about the Solar System, or even objects here on Earth. Are atoms expanding? Nope. The only thing expanding is space itself...

www.universetoday.com

Relativity is not why Tyson considers a simulation. His reason is a bit odd. Tyson thinks it could be an infinite nesting of simulations. "Simulations all the way down." We could be a simulation created by a simulated "kid in a basement" creating a world for entertainment. He never mentioned relativity.

Grow up, Tyson now believes that God created the universe. The really sad thing is that this moron actually believes that this is his idea because he swapped in the term simulation from creation.

Tyson now says that. Some immensely powerful computer programmer from the past, simulated the Universe.

Thousands of years ago it was written that God created the Heavens and the Earth.

Same shit said a different way, your schizzo graduate has no clue and has lost all his marbles

LOL now galaxies do not move, space expands, so there was no matter created and spread out in the big bang. So the cosmic microwave background noise residual from the big bang that never happened isn't there

Be a man and say no one knows, not someone from Earth anyway

 

[zaangalewa]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

Nothing known connects time to anything.

The theory of relativity connects time and space to "spactime". Gravitation bends spacetime - what has measurable effects as well in space and time. So we may say gravitation connects space and time.

Time is hard to even describe as when you describe time you are actually describing the effects of time on physical things but not time itself

The NIST in Boulder makes optical atomic clocks. This clocks are able to measure time in atto-seconds. 17 decimals. That's an accuracy of 0.00000000000000001 seconds.

But even a normal atomic clock, which exist since decades, has only a deviation of 1 second per 100 million years. We are able to measure time better (= more accurate) than anything else.

Theory is not reality

Short. Pregnant. And wrong.

and relativity prohibits entire galaxies from moving faster than light.

And entire galaxies in the size of protons. Every periodic system for example is a clock - and the phenomenon 'time dilatation' everyone can see very good in physical experiments with particles.

So relativity is just not proven which is why tyson believes that everything is a simulation

I don't have any idea why some people say such a nonsense. How old are you? Since more than 100 years the theory of relativity was tested in experiments and all experiments showed the theory of relativity gives a very exact prognosis of really measured results. Never any experiment in the last hundred years showed the theory of relativity is wrong.

 

[esalla]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

Nothing known connects time to anything.

The theory of relativity connects time and space to "spactime". Gravitation bends spacetime - what has measurable effects as well in space and time. So we may say gravitation connects space and time.

Time is hard to even describe as when you describe time you are actually describing the effects of time on physical things but not time itself

The NIST in Boulder makes optical atomic clocks. This clocks are able to measure time in atto-seconds. 17 decimals. That's an accuracy of 0.00000000000000001 seconds.

But even a normal atomic clock, which exist since decades, has only a deviation of 1 second per 100 million years. We are able to measure time better (= more accurate) than anything else.

Theory is not reality

Short. Pregnant. And wrong.

and relativity prohibits entire galaxies from moving faster than light.

And entire galaxies in the size of protons. Every periodic system for example is a clock - and the phenomenon 'time dilatation' everyone can see very good in physical experiments with particles.

So relativity is just not proven which is why tyson believes that everything is a simulation

I don't have any idea why some people say such a nonsense. How old are you? Since more than 100 years the theory of relativity was tested in experiments and all experiments showed the theory of relativity gives a very exact prognosis of really measured results. Never any experiment in the last hundred years showed the theory of relativity is wrong.

Do you accept that Einstein claimed that the universe was not expanding and that he based his math on this concept?

Do you accept that Einsteins later math proclaimed that nothing can travel faster than light and that this held true until galaxies were observed traveling at least 5 times light speed, by NASA?

You can not describe time, no one can, if you try you will actually be describing the effect of time on objects behavior over time not time itself.

So nothing that exist in the universe is truly clear including what we are or how we were formed. You can choose to believe that molecular code that needs hundreds of systems to live all formed together at one time but this is as illogical as a computer forming in the same pond.

Your problem is that you believe that your little graphs stand for something and give purpose and clarity to your life. This would actually be very sad because there would be nothing left to learn when in reality almost nothing is known

 

[zaangalewa]

It would seem that one explanation for 'instant' response between particles is that, in some way we don't understand, they are not really separated. Perhaps what we perceive as distance functions at one level, but not on every level.

As it has been established that space and time are linked, if time essentially stops, so does distance. At the foundation of time, the place beyond the Planck unit, if existence is really analog and not discrete packets, then "separation" would evaporate.

Time is totally undefined

As time and space have been shown to be connected and relative, it leaves us with much to resolve vis a vis our perceptual reality.

Nothing known connects time to anything.

The theory of relativity connects time and space to "spactime". Gravitation bends spacetime - what has measurable effects as well in space and time. So we may say gravitation connects space and time.

Time is hard to even describe as when you describe time you are actually describing the effects of time on physical things but not time itself

The NIST in Boulder makes optical atomic clocks. This clocks are able to measure time in atto-seconds. 17 decimals. That's an accuracy of 0.00000000000000001 seconds.

But even a normal atomic clock, which exist since decades, has only a deviation of 1 second per 100 million years. We are able to measure time better (= more accurate) than anything else.

Theory is not reality

Short. Pregnant. And wrong.

and relativity prohibits entire galaxies from moving faster than light.

And entire galaxies in the size of protons. Every periodic system for example is a clock - and the phenomenon 'time dilatation' everyone can see very good in physical experiments with particles.

So relativity is just not proven which is why tyson believes that everything is a simulation

I don't have any idea why some people say such a nonsense. How old are you? Since more than 100 years the theory of relativity was tested in experiments and all experiments showed the theory of relativity gives a very exact prognosis of really measured results. Never any experiment in the last hundred years showed the theory of relativity is wrong.

Do you accept that Einstein claimed that the universe was not expanding and that he based his math on this concept?

That the universe expands (the universe was nearly unknown in the early 19xx). Einstein corrected the problem that the universe expands with a so called "cosmological factor". When it became more clear, that the universe really expands, he called this factor "die größete Eselei meines Lebens!" = "the biggest folly of my life".

Do you accept that Einsteins later math proclaimed that nothing can travel faster than light and that this held true until galaxies were observed traveling at least 5 times light speed, by NASA?

What did measure the NASA? If so, then I'm sure they made a mistake. Give me the source of the NASA please.,

You can not describe time, no one can,

What a nonsense. Everyone is able to see the difference between past, present and future. That's very easy. We are not able to understand timelessness. For example we are not able to ask what was before god had created time.

if you try you will actually be describing the effect of time on objects behavior over time not time itself.

What is the difference? When you accelerate then you feel a force for example. What's the difference between acceleration and to feel this acceleration? Measurement! Life! Psychology!

So nothing that exist in the universe is truly clear including what we are or how we were formed.

My experience says this sounds wrong. But I don't like to think about now. Sounds somehow like the question of Immanuel Kant "Kann das Ding an sich erkennbar sein?". The most people today - all I met - answer this question with "no". I studied this questions for 6 month and I'm not sure about whether the answer is not "yes".

You can choose to believe that molecular code that needs hundreds of systems to live all formed together at one time but this is as illogical as a computer forming in the same pond.

Hä? ... I do not think in such categories.

Your problem is

I need a cup of coffee and a piece of cake, but my dogs like to make a walk. They will win, because I waste my time with you.

that you believe that your little graphs stand for something and give purpose and clarity to your life.

My problem in this context here could be where's the other half circle of the Lorentz factor. Your not existing problem is that you do not see any half circle in the Lorentz factor.

This would actually be very sad because there would be nothing left to learn when in reality almost nothing is known

Again: Since more than 100 years the theory of relativity was tested in experiments and all experiments showed the theory of relativity gives a very exact prognosis of really measured results. Never any experiment in the last hundred years showed the theory of relativity is wrong.