Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud

[HereWeGoAgain]

Dems win through fraud. Either they lie about their positions or they lie on the poll results. But they lie.
I wonder what race the accused are.

I'll give you two guesses and the first one doesnt count.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

Voter fraud is voter fraud.
Just like murder is murder. It doesnt matter how it's done.

 

[JoshuaZ]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

Voter fraud is voter fraud.
Just like murder is murder. It doesnt matter how it's done.

It matters a lot if one is trying to prevent it. For example, outlawing rat poison because 1 person used it to murder someone would be stupid. By the same token, better absentee ballot laws and more supervision of voting officials will help reduce actual voter fraud. Voter ID won't. And it is worth noting that the people who are pushing repeatedly for strict voter ID aren't also pushing for laws that will handle the voter fraud that really happens like that discussed in the article.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

Voter fraud is voter fraud.
Just like murder is murder. It doesnt matter how it's done.

It matters a lot if one is trying to prevent it. For example, outlawing rat poison because 1 person used it to murder someone would be stupid. By the same token, better absentee ballot laws and more supervision of voting officials will help reduce actual voter fraud. Voter ID won't. And it is worth noting that the people who are pushing repeatedly for strict voter ID aren't also pushing for laws that will handle the voter fraud that really happens like that discussed in the article.

I'm in favor of using every means available to stop it.
Voter ID is just one them.

 

[JoshuaZ]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

Please show me the people blocked from voting. Hint: there arent any.

Let's see. How about here, or here or here or here . Did you try checking your claim at all before making it?

 

[Darkwind]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

In fact, they don't. Why not do some research on voter ID in other nations and get back to us.

 

[The Rabbi]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

Please show me the people blocked from voting. Hint: there arent any.

Let's see. How about here, or here or here or here . Did you try checking your claim at all before making it?

You should read your own links, dumbshit. In the first one the woman ultimately was able to vote.
The efforts to find people disenfranchised are pathetic. Go anywhere and offer people $100 to show their ID and watch how fast everyone gets an ID.

 

[JoshuaZ]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

In fact, they don't. Why not do some research on voter ID in other nations and get back to us.

Funny you should say that. Why don't you go look to the reply to The Rabbi [sic] above about how actual examples. Voter ID in the US has a different impact than it does in Europe because getting IDs takes money here (whereas it generally doesn't in many European countries), and this is compounded by other barriers in the US, such as not having a universal government ID and having election day not be a holiday.

 

[g5000]

Is that the district where there were more votes for Obama than there were registered voters

Nope. That's just the imaginary voices in your head.

 

[The Rabbi]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

In fact, they don't. Why not do some research on voter ID in other nations and get back to us.

Funny you should say that. Why don't you go look to the reply to The Rabbi [sic] above about how actual examples. Voter ID in the US has a different impact than it does in Europe because getting IDs takes money here (whereas it generally doesn't in many European countries), and this is compounded by other barriers in the US, such as not having a universal government ID and having election day not be a holiday.

It does not take money to get ID. Another lie.

 

[JoshuaZ]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

Please show me the people blocked from voting. Hint: there arent any.

Let's see. How about here, or here or here or here . Did you try checking your claim at all before making it?

You should read your own links, dumbshit. In the first one the woman ultimately was able to vote.
The efforts to find people disenfranchised are pathetic. Go anywhere and offer people $100 to show their ID and watch how fast everyone gets an ID.

You shouldn't violate basic halacha in almost every post, why don't you read that link and the other three links? She was only able to get an ID because of massive support, and the other cases were not at all the same. Or even better why not look at an unambiguously neutral statistical analysis of what voter ID laws do that includes a link to a list of references with academic papers backing up the same result.

 

[g5000]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

No matter what you say, this is what bripat and his ilk are hearing you say: "There is no voter fraud."

Just look at his opening sentence. He's been told a zillion times that voter fraud exists. No one denies it exists. But he never hears that.

You are absolutely correct that Voter ID would not stop the kind of fraud which occurs. But they never, never, never, never, never get that. Because they are retards. And these mouth breathers are wasting taxpayer dollars.

 

[Darkwind]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

In fact, they don't. Why not do some research on voter ID in other nations and get back to us.

Funny you should say that. Why don't you go look to the reply to The Rabbi [sic] above about how actual examples. Voter ID in the US has a different impact than it does in Europe because getting IDs takes money here (whereas it generally doesn't in many European countries), and this is compounded by other barriers in the US, such as not having a universal government ID and having election day not be a holiday.

Are you going to be dishonest in our entire exchange? I need to know now so I can decide whether or not to ignore you from here on out.

Everywhere voter ID was proposed, free ID's were part of the legislation.

So tell Me. If I require EVERYONE to show an ID to get...oh, lets say welfare........who am I disenfranchising?

 

[g5000]

Voter ID gives the rubes a false sense of security.

But as we can see by the voter fraud committed by members of both parties, Voter ID does fuck-all to stop voter fraud.

So, in their own way, Voter ID rubes are not only wasting taxpayer dollars, they are aiding and abetting voter fraud by convincing themselves and others they are stopping it.

 

[JoshuaZ]

It does not take money to get ID. Another lie.

It may be very satisfying to assume that everyone who you disagree with must be evil liars, but it is more helpful if you actually want to understand reality to do a little research. Most states with voter ID requirements do have a "free" ID but not all, and even when there is a free ID obtaining it often requires having other documents which do cost money to obtain. See summary here. Note that that summary is using primarily data from the GAO, a neutral federal agency.

 

[JoshuaZ]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

In fact, they don't. Why not do some research on voter ID in other nations and get back to us.

Funny you should say that. Why don't you go look to the reply to The Rabbi [sic] above about how actual examples. Voter ID in the US has a different impact than it does in Europe because getting IDs takes money here (whereas it generally doesn't in many European countries), and this is compounded by other barriers in the US, such as not having a universal government ID and having election day not be a holiday.

Are you going to be dishonest in our entire exchange? I need to know now so I can decide whether or not to ignore you from here on out.

Everywhere voter ID was proposed, free ID's were part of the legislation.

So tell Me. If I require EVERYONE to show an ID to get...oh, lets say welfare........who am I disenfranchising?

See the reply to The Rabbi[sic] above, which answers the same thing (and has the same basic response about apparently wanting to assume that people who disagree with you must be lying and why that's not generally helpful).

 

[g5000]

I enjoy these topics. It is fun watching Voter ID proponents start topics which prove Voter ID is useless against stopping voter fraud.

You tell them and tell them and tell them Voter ID is useless, and they deny it to the hilt. And then they start topics like this one.

HILAAAAAAAARIOUS!!

 

[Darkwind]

Let's see how quick the liberal turds jump in to claim that voter fraud isn't a problem:

Philly Election Officials Charged With Voter Fraud NBC 10 Philadelphia​

On the night before Philly’s primary, four local election officials are accused of casting extra votes in order to balance their numbers.

Sandra Lee, 60, Alexia Harding, 22, James Collins, 69, and Gregory Thomas, 60, are all charged with voter fraud. Warrants for their arrests were issued Monday. All four suspects were election officials from Philly’s 18th Ward, 1st Division. ​

*Raise hand* - left of center person here. Voter fraud is a real problem, and there are examples of it. This isn't the only example- there are lots of local problems, and in fact massive problems with absentee ballot fraud. But that's not the same as the next step which is often claimed- in person, voter fraud where someone is pretending to be someone they are not. That's what's nearly non-existent and that's what liberals/progressives are objecting to people claiming is an issue. There's no evidence of any substantial number of people pretending to be people they aren't, and voter ID laws block by multiple orders of magnitude more people from voting than they stop voting fraud.

In fact, they don't. Why not do some research on voter ID in other nations and get back to us.

Funny you should say that. Why don't you go look to the reply to The Rabbi [sic] above about how actual examples. Voter ID in the US has a different impact than it does in Europe because getting IDs takes money here (whereas it generally doesn't in many European countries), and this is compounded by other barriers in the US, such as not having a universal government ID and having election day not be a holiday.

Are you going to be dishonest in our entire exchange? I need to know now so I can decide whether or not to ignore you from here on out.

Everywhere voter ID was proposed, free ID's were part of the legislation.

So tell Me. If I require EVERYONE to show an ID to get...oh, lets say welfare........who am I disenfranchising?

See the reply to The Rabbi[sic] above, which answers the same thing (and has the same basic response about apparently wanting to assume that people who disagree with you must be lying and why that's not generally helpful).

It has been proven time and again that no one is disenfranchised because they don't have an ID, and each time that the left says that people can't afford it, they simply ignore the basic fact that each time the ID is provided free of charge. When you are told that the ID's are free, and you continue to say, "But if they have to pay for them...." You are being dishonest. Basic comprehension skills.

Yet they seem to be able to produce that same ID for a check from the government.

So, answer My question.


If I require EVERYONE to show an ID to get...oh, lets say welfare........who am I disenfranchising?

 

[LeftofLeft]

All I see from the Left are attacks and smears on ID. They don't believe there are vulnerabilities worth addressing. The only time I heard them cry about voter fraud was in the 2000 Elections and even then they concentrated efforts of faulty ballots and black voter oppression in 4 Florida counties run by Democrats. In that case, no voter fraud was found. Still, I thought Democrats would be motivated to enhance and shore up the system to mitigate the risk of voter fraud. They are just not interested nor do they believe it exists until their guy or gal loses

 

[dcraelin]

it appears they were trying to correct a machine error.............they had more people registered than the machine showed.....this may get to the question of rigged machines..............