Penalty, tax.....call it whatever.....it is historic

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    Has anyone realized that whether we call it a penalty for not having insurance or a tax for not having insurance....it will be the first time that I can think of (correct me if I am wrong) where you are forced to pay for something (or have someone pay it for you) the minute you are born...

    You, as an individual entity will have a government mandated cost of existance the minute you leave your mom's womb.

    Am I the only one that finds that kind of eerie?
     
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    did you vote for obamalama? and did you not know this was coming down the pike?
     
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    lmao....no...I did not vote for Obama. He was never a consideration...especially when he admitted to be a liar and rationalized it by saying he had to lie for political expediency.

    Besides...as a true conservative...there was no one worthy of my vote.....but McCain got it out of concern for what will happen if Obama were elected.

    ANd now look where we are.
     
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    It's not that historic, cause Mitt Romney already did it in Massachusetts. But still, I don't agree with it.

    Also, there are plenty of built-into-being-human costs that start the moment you are born. Born in a hospital? Already medical bills. Born at home? Someone's gotta pay the rent.
     
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    No....none of those are government mandated.....those are costs OTHERS incur to have you as a child.

    But you, as a newborn, will be mandted by law to either buy insurance or pay the fine....and yes...others will pay it for you....but it is a mandate on YOU.

    As for Romeny....you had the option to move to another state.....

    Now it will be ....pay or move to another country
     
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    First of all, I've yet to see any text of a bill that would have this "penalty" in it.
    Second, I would imagine that the mandate would apply to parents, until the child is 18.

    Where, odds are, healthcare will be free.

    EDIT TO ADD: I do NOT support this penalty. Just playing devil's advocate.
     
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    Yes...as for the 18 thing...yes...but it is a mandate on YOU at the age of one second....very unusual.

    A bit eerie.
     
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    Put it this way...

    This will be the first time (if enacted) that the government is MANDATING that you buy something.

    Now beofre you say "what about auto insurance"....that is not a fair comparison. I can opt NOT to own a car.....

    but the second one is born, if that person is to live in the US he or she MUST either purchase health insurance, pay a fine, or move out of the country.

    It is very eerrie and very concerning that anyone even thought of it to begin with.
     
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    obama wants to make sure the evil insurance companies have an endless revenue stream. the insurance industry supports the mandate.
     
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    I have heard that if they pass this it will be challenged on constitutional grounds, but I have no idea how.
     

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