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Another excellent rebuttal to my post. The research alone must have taken you hours. I just can't compete with such sheer brilliance and water-tight defense.
Anyone else?
I'm waiting child.......lets hear you rebut the 911 Commission's findings....
If you persist in this I do not want to hear one whine, one peep from you rejects when the Republicans regain power and do the same to your darlings.
Key word here is speculation. And the term "probably" doesn't help your case either.How about Page 128....(9/11 Commission Report)
Talks about Clinton's indictment of Bin Ladin that originally included the accusation that al Qaeda had reached "an understanding with the gov. of Iraq", etc....
goes on to talk about the scumbag Richard Clark's speculation to Berger that a large Iraqi presence at the chemical facilities in Kartoum was "probably a direct result of the Iraq/al Qaida agreement."....Clarke continued on that VX precursor traces found near al Shifa were the "exact formula used by Iraq"...
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This stuff was later dropped from the superseding indictment filed in Nov. 1998 but this information clearly shows what our super smart spy Clarke believed about al Qeada and Saddam conections....beliefs he later denied to save his own ass and reputation and throw Bush under the bus at the same time....
a typical hypocrit Democratic act.....
Key word here is speculation. And the term "probably" doesn't help your case either.
Page 66...hmmm first thing it says isWhy don't you start out with Page 66 of the "9/11 Commission Report" (page 83 of the PDF)....This explains the evidence dealing with Bin Ladin and Saddam contacts in 1998 or so.....
Try to not get confused with what was believed before 9/11 and what was un-covered after and during the Commission testimony....after all, thats the important element to this....what was thought to be the truth by intell, foreign and domestic...
I won't counter your crap line by line or word for word as its too time consuming, but you can educate yourself if you have the open mind to do so....
Don't remember Bush & Co. ever alluding to that , do you?There is also evidence around this time Bin Laden sent out a number of feelers to the Iraqi regime, offering some cooperation. None are reported to have a significant response. According to one report, Saddam Hussein's efforts at this time to rebuild relations with the Saudis and other Middle Eastern regimes led him to stay clear of Bin Laden.
You have just been slam dunked by your own source. If there are any details you find that match those 5 quotes please let me know but I've been over this many times before and the fact remains Bush & Co. lied. You are all just angry because you bought those lies. So let out the anger. I can see everybody else has.The reports describe friendly contacts and indicate some common themes in both sides hatred of the United States. But to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier contacts ever developed into a collaborative relationship. Nor have we seen evidence indicating that Iraq cooperated with Al Qaeda in developing or carrying out any attacks against the United States.
People gotta work. Can't be here 24 hours a day.I'm waiting child.......lets hear you rebut the 911 Commission's findings....
HAHAHAHA is there a little fear behind all this anger?
Its OK to spend time and money chasing a blow job but to prosicute real crime is too scary huh?
If we dont prosecute these assholes it will set a precident for admins to lie us into wars in the future. Go Pelosi
I don't which is why I ask for anyone to provide any documentation to show what Bush & Co. said, if it is covered in any intel report. It's just not there.Quote:
Like I pointed out from the start...don't confuse what we believed then and what we now know....as you just have....
I believe Clinton lied also. I believe Clinton should be tried for his bombing raids on Sudan and Iraq. He used lies and half-truths to support these attacks.SAME THING as Clinton....
They BOTH believed they were telling the true as they knew it...as our very own intell. believed, as the intell from around the world believed.
Some politicians from these countries said he did but the intel didn't. Most of these countries were basing their intel on the UN Weapons Inspections Reports...Russia, France, Isreal, England, Germany......they all agreed....Saddam had WMD, not maybe, not might,
Well this statement is a half truth. Saddam did have "secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country" but this was back in the time of the Gulf War and prior to. The inspections were working and the weapons were getting destroyed. While Bush, Clinton and Gore may have been cherry picking certain sections of these UN Inspection Reports, they certainly missed points like "The UN team had disarmed Iraq of 90-95% of its WMD." December 1998 - Scott Ritter.as Al Gore said.....
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
I would have to see the full statement. Is Al talking about present Iraq circa 1998 or of Iraq in the past. Either way he is misleading the public.He didn't say we think or he might....he said WE KNOW...and big Al was privy to secret intell for 10 years before he made this statement....
was this Democrat a liar....??? I don't think so but you might....
Actually the mainstream Media (especially in the US) is crap. They were not doing their job in the lead up to the war. They practically cheering him on.You've been brainwashed by lying hypocrites and Bush haters with the aid of the main stream media for the past 8 years,
Sorry, but I feel it is you that is hooked. I will only provide facts. If you doubt anything I say please feel free to ask me to back it up.and you are hooked....you're one of their many success stories....you're nothing more than a lemming....one of thousands....
what a load of shitI don't which is why I ask for anyone to provide any documentation to show what Bush & Co. said, if it is covered in any intel report. It's just not there.
I believe Clinton lied also. I believe Clinton should be tried for his bombing raids on Sudan and Iraq. He used lies and half-truths to support these attacks.
Some politicians from these countries said he did but the intel didn't. Most of these countries were basing their intel on the UN Weapons Inspections Reports.
Well this statement is a half truth. Saddam did have "secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country" but this was back in the time of the Gulf War and prior to. The inspections were working and the weapons were getting destroyed. While Bush, Clinton and Gore may have been cherry picking certain sections of these UN Inspection Reports, they certainly missed points like "The UN team had disarmed Iraq of 90-95% of its WMD." December 1998 - Scott Ritter.
I would have to see the full statement. Is Al talking about present Iraq circa 1998 or of Iraq in the past. Either way he is misleading the public.
Actually the mainstream Media (especially in the US) is crap. They were not doing their job in the lead up to the war. They practically cheering him on.
Sorry, but I feel it is you that is hooked. I will only provide facts. If you doubt anything I say please feel free to ask me to back it up.
I don't which is why I ask for anyone to provide any documentation to show what Bush & Co. said, if it is covered in any intel report. It's just not there.
Come now...you're not ignorant enough to think that I or we have intell reports at our beck and call ....
I believe Clinton lied also. I believe Clinton should be tried for his bombing raids on Sudan and Iraq. He used lies and half-truths to support these attacks.
Then your brainwashing is just about complete...
Some politicians from these countries said he did but the intel didn't. Most of these countries were basing their intel on the UN Weapons Inspections Reports.
Now you're just just making shit up to agree with your pre-conceived nonsense....
Well this statement is a half truth. Saddam did have "secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country" but this was back in the time of the Gulf War and prior to. The inspections were working and the weapons were getting destroyed. While Bush, Clinton and Gore may have been cherry picking certain sections of these UN Inspection Reports, they certainly missed points like "The UN team had disarmed Iraq of 90-95% of its WMD." December 1998 - Scott Ritter.
The date is obvious...you just choose to believe Ritter rather than Al Gore...
their is no definitive proof who is a liar ...if any...
I would have to see the full statement. Is Al talking about present Iraq circa 1998 or of Iraq in the past. Either way he is misleading the public.
Actually the mainstream Media (especially in the US) is crap. They were not doing their job in the lead up to the war. They practically cheering him on.
Sorry, but I feel it is you that is hooked. I will only provide facts. If you doubt anything I say please feel free to ask me to back it up.
As I said beforeYou haven't 'backed up anything yet' ...I've shown you what the 911 Commission conclued as to what was perceived to be the truth at particular times and what was learned to be the actual truth afterwards....
if its too much for you...I can't help stupid....opps ..sorry....just my personal perception....
Remember those 5 quotes I posted earlier in post #123. There is nothing in any intelligence report to back those up.I asked for anyone to provide any documentation to show what Bush & Co. said, if it is covered in any intel report. It's just not there.
*This we know was true. There is documentation for this. There are even receipts for this. Now he may have been misleading the public or alluding that Saddam still had these chemical agents but the statement is true within itself.We know that the regime has produced thousands of tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, sarin nerve gas, VX nerve gas.
Go through every intelligence report. Not one intelligence report will mention a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons. This is a lie. There were zero Aerial Vehicles found. Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq.We've also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We're concerned that Iraq is exploring ways of using these UAVS for missions targeting the United States
Keep your eyes open and your ears tuned in. Now that they are out of office and can't cover up their shit as well, you are going to see a lot of really good stuff that they did while in power.
no shitThat claim was made in 2006 when the Republicans lost Congress. I guess if you keep saying it someone may believe you.
Pelosi Open to Prosecution of Bush Administration Officials | Political News - FOXNews.com
Democrat DUmmies are just plain chickenshit if they don't follow through!
As I said before Remember those 5 quotes I posted earlier in post #123. There is nothing in any intelligence report to back those up.
I will give you an example of a lie and the truth by George Bush
First he is being truthful when he says:
*This we know was true. There is documentation for this. There are even receipts for this. Now he may have been misleading the public or alluding that Saddam still had these chemical agents but the statement is true within itself.
* Not sure if the "thousands of tons" is truthful. That sounds like a huge quantity.
Now here is an example of a lie:
Go through every intelligence report. Not one intelligence report will mention a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons. This is a lie. There were zero Aerial Vehicles found. Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq.
One statement is the truth albeit misleading, the other statement is a lie.
