Pelosi Demands Private Jet For Travel

[maineman]

That wasn't you, unless you have 2 id's? The 'moron' was to a member, unless my reading skills are leaving once again?

well...you should go back and read my post and see if I ever suggested that you were talking to me.... my question is simply.... is namecalling only verboten when used on members? In this thread alone democratic members of congress have been referred to with some fairly derrogatory names.....

 

[maineman]

red states rule....how come you don't respond to posts that paint you into a corner?

so...all you have is maybe's and half baked suppositions?

why am I not surprised?

 

[red states rule]

red states rule....how come you don't respond to posts that paint you into a corner?

Like what?

T-bor was forced to try and change the subject, and fall back on the usual liberal debate tactic of name calling

It is nice to see the Democ rats backed into a corner

 

[maineman]

Like what?

T-bor was forced to try and change the subject, and fall back on the usual liberal debate tactic of name calling

It is nice to see the Democ rats backed into a corner

you haven't backed me anywhere.... I asked you where you got your facts that would allow you to call a long sitting sergeant at arms (first appointed when Newt took over the speakership, by the way) a LIAR....and all you could come up with was "maybe's and "could be's" and half baked suppositions.... oh...and calling the sergeant at arms of the house of representatives a "low level government employee"!!!

 

[red states rule]

you haven't backed me anywhere.... I asked you where you got your facts that would allow you to call a long sitting sergeant at arms (first appointed when Newt took over the speakership, by the way) a LIAR....and all you could come up with was "maybe's and "could be's" and half baked suppositions.... oh...and calling the sergeant at arms of the house of representatives a "low level government employee"!!!

Much like during the Clinton years, Dems always try to shift the blame to low level staff members

It seems to be a habit with the Democ rats

 

[maineman]

Much like during the Clinton years, Dems always try to shift the blame to low level staff members

It seems to be a habit with the Democ rats

you crack me up.....

the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Representatives - a man with a long and impressive resume of public service...a man who first took office when the Republicans came to power in January of 1995... and a man who said that the decision about the aircraft was entirely his...is somehow a LOW LEVEL STAFF MEMBER?

 

[red states rule]

you crack me up.....

the Sergeant at Arms of the House of Representatives - a man with a long and impressive resume of public service...a man who first took office when the Republicans came to power in January of 1995... and a man who said that the decision about the aircraft was entirely his...is somehow a LOW LEVEL STAFF MEMBER?

The White House Travel Office was there long before the Clintons. They found out what happenes if you do not do as you are told by the Dems

 

[maineman]

and...red states rule.... I know it really must stick in your craw...but the entire reason we are even talking about Speaker Pelosi is because the American people were SICK of your party's inept and corrupt prosecution of a ridiculous foreign policy.

sorry....

 

[maineman]

The White House Travel Office was there long before the Clintons. They found out what happenes if you do not do as you are told by the Dems

ok...now tell me what the white house travel office has to do with the sergeant at arms for the house of representatives.

I'll wait.

 

[red states rule]

ok...now tell me what the white house travel office has to do with the sergeant at arms for the house of representatives.

I'll wait.

If you work in the WH or on Capital Hill and Dems are in charge - you do as you are told or else

 

[maineman]

If you work in the WH or on Capital Hill and Dems are in charge - you do as you are told or else

wow.... no facts, just slurs and unproven innuendo. Why am I not surprised?

 

[red states rule]

wow.... no facts, just slurs and unproven innuendo. Why am I not surprised?

The facts are Pelosi's ego has showed thru and libs do not like it when it is pointed out

 

[maineman]

The facts are Pelosi's ego has showed thru and libs do not like it when it is pointed out

do you ever debate on issues or facts or is bloviation your sole output?

really.... we can talk about issues, but if all you want to do is hurl feces, I really have no desire to play that game.

it's entirely up to you.

 

[red states rule]

do you ever debate on issues or facts or is bloviation your sole output?

really.... we can talk about issues, but if all you want to do is hurl feces, I really have no desire to play that game.

it's entirely up to you.

If you cannot counter the facts, please, do not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

 

[maineman]

If you cannot counter the facts, please, do not let the door hit you in the ass on the way out

the facts are clear...the sergeant at arms of the house clearly and unambiguously stated that this was his doing and not Pelosi's.

all you have is flatulent tired old anti-democratic rhetoric.... and not even very original.... you got anything facts that show that the sergeant at arms is lying? if so...put up or shut the f**k up.

 

[red states rule]

the facts are clear...the sergeant at arms of the house clearly and unambiguously stated that this was his doing and not Pelosi's.

all you have is flatulent tired old anti-democratic rhetoric.... and not even very original.... you got anything facts that show that the sergeant at arms is lying? if so...put up or shut the f**k up.

The facts are clear. It is either Pelosi's huge ego overloaded her mouth or her ass is so huge she needs a bigger jet

Or it could be both

 

[maineman]

The facts are clear. It is either Pelosi's huge ego overloaded her mouth or her ass is so huge she needs a bigger jet

Or it could be both

no facts from you that counterdict the statement of the sergeant at arms....just more hot air. You really should stop.... it is tedious to read, and getting almost embarrassing for you, isn't it?

 

[red states rule]

no facts from you that counterdict the statement of the sergeant at arms....just more hot air. You really should stop.... it is tedious to read, and getting almost embarrassing for you, isn't it?

it is embarrassing to libs when their arrogrance is out there for all to see

I hope she keeps it up. Since becoming Speaker, she has made so many blunders the next two years is going to be fun to watch

 

[maineman]

it is embarrassing to libs when their arrogrance is out there for all to see

I hope she keeps it up. Since becoming Speaker, she has made so many blunders the next two years is going to be fun to watch

still no facts about the lies of the sergeant at arms? ho hum.

 

[red states rule]

still no facts about the lies of the sergeant at arms? ho hum.

I guess the sarge did not catch Lou Dobbs on the Clinton News Network. Boy Lou is in trouble now

On the February 8 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, host Lou Dobbs asserted that "despite a lot of journalistic reports to the contrary," the military aircraft used by former House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) between Washington, D.C., and his district in Illinois would be able to fly House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "coast to coast for just about $15,000 less than the proposed aircraft for the speaker." The "proposed aircraft" is presumably the larger C-32 (as CNN correspondent Kitty Pilgrim suggested earlier in the program) or C-40, which Republicans alleged on the House floor that Pelosi had requested (calling them by the names of their civilian counterparts, the Boeing 757 and 737). However, CNN itself had reported that Hastert's plane could not consistently reach Pelosi's district. On the February 7 edition of CNN's The Situation Room, host Wolf Blitzer said that "each of those planes [including Hastert's] could fly coast to coast without refueling, but that would also depend on multiple factors, including winds, payloads, and reserve fuel requirements."

Additionally, ABC News senior national correspondent Jake Tapper wrote that "Capt. Herb McConnell, the spokesman for the 89th Airlift wing at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland, said the C-20 [Hastert's plane] is sometimes 'able to make a coast-to-coast flight at times during the year, but not when there are strong headwinds such as during the winter.' " The Los Angeles Times similarly reported that planes like Hastert's "require ideal weather conditions to make the cross-country trip without stopping to refuel." As Media Matters for America noted, Dobbs asserted on February 5 that Hastert's plane could fly Pelosi to her district, despite contrary reporting in Roll Call. Dobb's claim was also contradicted by a report in the February 6 Washington Post.

Earlier on Lou Dobbs Tonight, Pilgrim reported that Pelosi was "in denial" about the story, telling viewers that Pelosi was "so in denial, she even denied it was a plane." In the next video clip, Pelosi was shown making the distinction between having a plane specifically reserved at all times and having access to the use of a plane when necessary.

Pilgrim also reported that "the debate on the House floor raised voices and passions," and then aired three consecutive video clips of Republican congressmen without including an opposing Democratic voice. The only Democrat shown in a video clip during the segment was Pelosi herself, whom Pilgrim dismissed as "in denial."

As the weblog Think Progress noted, Dobbs discussed Pelosi's airplane on Lou Dobbs Tonight and Lou Dobbs This Week every day from February 1-6. He also discussed it on the February 7 edition of Lou Dobbs Tonight.

From the February 8 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

PILGRIM: After weeks of intense accusations, the speaker of the House tried to set the record straight. But Nancy Pelosi was in denial.

PELOSI: We didn't ask for a larger plane, period.

PILGRIM: She was so in denial, she even denied it was a plane.

PELOSI: And by the way, it's not a plane. A plane seems to make you think your plane's waiting there. It's a ride.

PILGRIM: What Mrs. Pelosi's staff admits to is asking the DOD for a plane that could fly nonstop to San Francisco. The DOD letter in response doesn't reveal whether she indeed asked for a C-32, the same plane as Vice President Dick Cheney's Air Force Two, a plane that carries 45 people.

[...]

PILGRIM: But the debate on the House floor raised voices and passions.

REP. DAN BURTON (R-IN): And I hope that Speaker Pelosi will take the time to come down and explain to the full House the reason why she thinks she should have $15 million a year to fly back and forth to California.

REP. GINNY BROWN-WAITE (R-FL): Congress should not be above coach or first-class travel.

REP. ERIC CANTOR (R-VA): The ability to fly on a jumbo jetliner is a privilege never before granted to a member of Congress.

PILGRIM: Now, John Murtha, chairman of the Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, says that he wants to hold hearings later this spring on executive and congressional travel on military aircraft, and he's given the Defense Department a one-month deadline to provide records on congressional travel for the last two years -- Lou.

[...]

DOBBS: Time now for some of your thoughts.

Anita from Louisiana: "Your story about Nancy Pelosi demanding a huge military jet for her personal use was at best inaccurate and slanted, and at worst a smear."

Well, actually, former House Speaker Congressman Dennis Hastert of Illinois flew to and fro Washington, most commonly on a Gulfstream 3 jet. There it is. And despite a lot of journalistic reports to the contrary, that aircraft will fly coast to coast for just about $15,000 less than the proposed aircraft for the speaker.