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he says pelosi tastes like chicken.Schumer, on CNN, that very same SundayYou’re going to have to be much more specific about what you’re talking about.That’s a weird interpretation of extremely recent history. It leaves me really confused as to why the senate minority leader got on tv before the vote, and called this a bipartisan bill. It also makes me wonder why the senators just passed this bill they called so evil before...Is it because it was a very bad look for them in the polls, or they all of sudden realized it was a good bill.The Democratic senators that co-wrote the bill? So you’re saying that Mconnell went ahed with a vote, knowing it was going to loose, because the Dem senators that co-wrote it didn’t like what they wrote. And Pelosi broke her self quarantine and just hopped on a plane to fly to DC from California for the hell of it, and it just happened to be right before the vote went down, and she rounded up the democratic senators to catch up with them before the vote, and after the vote put out a list of demands not attached to or concerning anything, just out of the blue a list of demands.Oh right...a Pelosi imposter showed up, at the last minute, with a list of meaningless demands. And that had nothing to do with the vote not passing.Pelosi didn’t block anything.So while dems and GOP in the senate co-writing a meaningful bipartisan bill, during a pandemic, pelosi blocked it to throw in meaningless things. Pelosi. Of Congress. No good way to spin thatYes, they’re meaningless. So what? Why are you freaking out?then we do agree that pelosi's efforts are in fact, meaingless.I’m saying that the bill Pelosi introduced that has some people’s panties in a bunch is not a part of the Senate negotiations and is basically meaningless.meanwhile pelosi is now tacking on amnesty for illegals in the bill.Twice as much for small businesses as corporations. The Democrats are liars.Where's your link to that information?It says "opinion" right by his name. Tell me the facts he cited. Go ahead.Are you saying the writer did not present any facts?Opinion writer. Try again. I deal in facts.Again, do you have a link to that claim?Exactly. How come CNN and MSNBC aren't asking "WTF?"Pelosi's bill includes 35 million to the Kennedy Center. WTF?They don’t. It’s stupid. An unforced error on their part.Yes. I still can't get an answer as to how windmills stop the virus and provide emergency funding to hospitals and health care providers?The left hates the average working citizens. The Democrats need to be stomped.
And I wonder why you guys aren’t asking WTF with Mnuchin’s slush fund.
Lack of protection for major industries to prevent layoffs. Stock buybacks can be authorized at discretion of Mnuchin. Corporate recipients kept hidden for 6 months. Too much discretion for Mnuchin to determine who gets loans. Only two year limitation on corporate salary freezes.
Has anyone actually seen the bill or is that secret too?McConnell proposes $1,200 for Americans earning less than $75K in coronavirus stimulus bill
Read the text here.www.axios.com
That was the original proposal. Since then, Republicans jacked up the corporate bailout by a factor of 3. The small business bailout did not get such an increase.
what in PRAY TELL does this have jack nor shit to do with your "fiscal responsibility" bullshit?
She isn’t tacking anything into the bill in question. Pelosi is in the House. The bill in question is being introduced into the Senate.
Do you understand how government works or do we need to go back to schoolhouse rock level education?
So it doesn't have to satisfy the House. Is that what you are claiming?
the question then is, why is she doing them when "meaningless" activities from our Gov is the last thing we need?
have fun with that grenade you created.
That didn’t happen either. The vote didn’t pass because Democratic Senators objected to the poor oversight of Mnuchin’s corporate bailout fund.
McConnell tried to ram it down people’s throats without any actual negotiation.
Had nothing to do with Pelosi and a list of meaningless demands.
Im saying you’re either lying or misinformed about the bill.
Democrats did not co-write the bill. McConnell and Republicans wrote it, introduced it last Thursday. That was the Democrats first opportunity to review the language.
Senate GOP releases coronavirus relief plan with up to $1,200 in cash payments to individuals
The Senate has been under immense pressure to get a deal done with the House and administration as quickly as possible, as cash dries up for some American companies.www.cnbc.com
He then demanded the Democrats agree to it within a day.
McConnell sets Friday night deadline for bipartisan deal on stimulus
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is pushing an aggressive schedule, asking Republican and Democratic negotiators who met Friday morning in the Hart Senate Office Building to reach an …thehill.com
The votes that failed were on Monday, of a shell bill, which didn’t even contain the language of the resolution that was still being negotiated.
Senate fails to advance coronavirus stimulus bill for second time in two days
The Senate on Monday failed to advance a massive coronavirus stimulus package for the second time in as many days. Senators voted 49-46, falling short of the three-fifths support necessary to …thehill.com
And after a lot of work, they’ve come to a deal and we should see a vote coming soon.
White House, Senate reach deal on $2 trillion stimulus package
The legislation was hailed as “the largest rescue package in American history.”thehill.com
As you can see, there is no factual basis for your claim. If you have sources that say otherwise let’s see them
I don’t think a week of negotiation is too much to ask when the package is going to cost us nearly $2 trillion, but that’s just me.
Please show me where Schumer got on TV and called it a bipartisan bill (assuming you’re speaking of the current stimulus bill that was just negotiated and not the prior relief bill, I believe we are currently in “Phase 3”). Please show me where they said it was “so evil”.
The bill as originally written is not the same bill that is going to pass. That’s what negotiations are for. It’s not that they realized it was a good bill all along, but that they made changes to make it a good bill.
“We’re having good bipartisan agreements. The initial bill Leader McConnell put in didn’t have any Democratic input and we were worried that we just try to put it on the floor and not consult Speaker Pelosi because the House still has to pass this. But actually, to my delight and surprise there has been a great deal of bipartisan cooperation thus far.”
This is why I found your “interpretation” of extremely recent history to be such an odd one. According to you this was a partisan, shove down the throat, action on behalf of mcconnell. That wasn’t what Schumer was saying hours before the vote on Sunday. Isn’t that odd? Along with the fact that barely anything changed with the bill that just got passed, it’s virtually the same except for a few minor changes, paraphrasing Schumer’s own words today. What’s also weird is why if it was only minor changes made, why wasn’t it passed Sunday when McConnell specifically allowed a 30 hour period to make such changes? But you know, you must be right, because the democrats would never play politics while getting relief to Americans in the middle of a national crisis.
Schumer’s quote confirms what I have been telling you. See here lifted exactly from what you included above:
“The initial bill Leader McConnell put in didn’t have any Democratic input and we were worried that we just try to put it on the floor and not consult Speaker Pelosi because the House still has to pass this.”
As you can see, the initial bill was not co-written by Democrats, which was your original contention. McConnell tried to hurry it along, but Schumer put on the breaks despite some very unfair accusations.
Schumer was saying that they were in the process of negotiating the bill and he was pleased with the progress but weren’t finished until just last evening. He did not call it “a bipartisan bill”. He said they were making bipartisan agreements to reach a final bill. Most of the bill wasn’t all that controversial so it did not require an enormous amount of change but there were small but important modifications that will benefit it.
What is there to be confused about? It’s exactly as I said.
This bullsh*t again? They were in Negitiations, Dems had all kinds of input. How are you defending Nancy today? She gaveled the House closed and went home. She must be your hero !!!!