PE: Who's fault is it?

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    If it's not a Muslim thing, it must be the government's fault? No new jobs, no new housing, social services etc, etc for the mostly second generation Muslim and Arabs, wuz up?


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    "Paris, we have a problem..."

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2414175,00.html

     
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    Sunday afternoon I saw PE reading this thread, he chose not to answer, maybe because of this?

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/print?id=2596942

     
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    and from Associated Press:

    http://www.the-dispatch.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061022/API/610221266&cachetime=5


     
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    There are a lot of reasons why the French have worked against America in the War on Terror, especially Iraq. But I think that fear of their own Muslim population is one of the main reasons. It sucks when you have to clean up the debris of a failed colonial empire. Britain suffers from the same demographic malady, but unlike the French, the Brits have not let minority threats influence foreign policy, as least not yet.
     
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    Maybe, but I don't think so.
    If France refused Iraq 2003, it was becasue it was not France's interest, and because it was illegal, against the international laws and the UN San Francisco treaty of 1945.
    The biggest part of the french muslim population has no problem with the State and is not the cause of problems. But the focalisation of the medias on some groups of youthes, muslims, give the impression that the whole muslim youthes are against France and the State's authority. This is not true at all.

    Said, Kathianne, you give some numbers about the violence acts. Sure. But it will please to me if I could have the numbers of violence acts in USA. I think they are realy more numerous. At least in France we don't have murders or gang wars.
    You speak about destruction of cars and buses and actions against policemen. Of course, USA is very quiet on this subject.

    Please, stop to believe that France is near the civil war. The people who are at the origin of the problems are a real minority. I think I am the best person to see if France will fall into a religious war, and I can say to you : NO. IN south of France, there is quite a lot of muslim, in Marseille (less in Aix), but there is not enormous problems...
     
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    No gang murders and wars. Interesting. So what exactly is going on then? It's all exageratted. Lets compaire populations shall we vs murder rates, for starters:

    France: population: 60,656,178 Murders: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
    Canada: population: 32,569,394 Murders: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
    USA: Population: 295,734,134 Murders: 0.042802 per 1,000 people

    Here's the link for your reading pleasure. ttp://www.nationmaster.com/countries

    Speaking of minorities, what is the muslim population in France and where will I find the most heavily populated areas where these minorities are living?

    Also, I didn't give numbers, the article did. However, I would be happy to give you numbers from Canada, specifically related to what you claim the 'media' is depicting as immigrant youth crime such as the violent acts committed in France. The above is strickly murders that haven't been broken down into sub-categories such as race or youth.
     
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    Many links, including the documents:

    http://politicscentral.com/2006/10/25/france_prepares_50000_riot_pol.php


     
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061026/ap_on_re_eu/france_suburban_violence


     
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    Nothing to see here, move along, move along!



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