Party of NO strikes again: Obama vetoes Keystone XL pipeline

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

International trade is now "foreign entitlement junkies"? Are you BSC?

"You owe it to us to build this because we want to sell shit to Costa Rica" is foreign entitlement.

Buying and selling is not entitlements, you twit! It's commerce.

Canada expecting us to build a pipeline just because they want it so they can sell oil to other countries, with no care whatsoever if it will have an effect on our own interests, is the very definition of entitlement.

Asshat, WE want to build that pipeline. As Samuel Jackson says, wake the fuck up! American opinion is behind this and you are nothing but a shrill environmental whacko Leftist in the extreme minority.

Asshat, you're interjecting into what I was talking about to Tinydancer, who is a Canuk whose entire line of bullshit is based on Canadian based interests and who has repeatedly taken a "Fuck the United States" attitude. Now if you share Tinydancer's contempt for the United States and love Canada so much then go ahead and get the fuck out and move to Canada. On the other hand, if that's not the case, then you really should reference my earlier advice about not having all the information before you jump in and start replying to my posts, because you'll look like a damned fool every single time.

Tinydancer doesn't hate the United States. But from your posts, "shove that pipeline up your Canuck ass" it's very clear you HATE Canadians, so I guess it's lost on you that the feeling isn't mutual. Don't project your hate and bigotry onto others.

 

[Redfish]

Why don't you first account for the hundreds of billion s of dollars that were supposed to be used for infrastructure before you ask for more?

I have no objection to those $100 billion being used

Then you don't need more.

Just use what's already being collected

We need much more

We have been ignoring our infrastructure for decades

You can not keep on saying that, unless you want to get rid of liberal regulations the past 50 years

DUH !

Sorry

Environmental regulations still matter

the environmental scare tactics regarding keystone have all been refuted many times. This is political, not environmental, fiscal, or even logical.

Keystone would help the USA and do no harm to anyone.

 

[The Rabbi]

I have no objection to those $100 billion being used

Then you don't need more.

Just use what's already being collected

We need much more

We have been ignoring our infrastructure for decades

You can not keep on saying that, unless you want to get rid of liberal regulations the past 50 years

DUH !

Sorry

Environmental regulations still matter

the environmental scare tactics regarding keystone have all been refuted many times. This is political, not environmental, fiscal, or even logical.

Keystone would help the USA and do no harm to anyone.

It would harm the Greenie Meanies because they've invested a lot of poltiical capital in stopping it.

 

[007]

I blame America. WE (collectively speaking) put that uninformed dip-shit into the position of President.

And WE (collectively speaking) failed to provide him with an opposition Congress in large enough numbers to override his petulant petty little vetoes.

But his veto does tend to serve well to corroborate Rudy's observation. Obumbler doesn't much care for America.

Don't include me when you say "we," because I didn't vote for the slimy little radical muslim dog turd.

I knew he was an anti American POS before he got elected.

 

[Skull Pilot]

so a pipeline across america is canadian infrastructure??? only in the mind of a mentally challenged liberal.

It helps Canadian interests not American interests

I would rather approve roads, bridges, power and communications grids that help Americans

Whose interest does it serve buying oil from psycho Arabs that want to kill us

We are exporting oil

The oil from Keystone was not for export it was stipulated in the bill.
It was solely for domestic use

That is not only not true, but it would devastate U.S. domestic oil because oil companies and speculators would have to be overly cautious in how much they produce, being unable to sell any excess on the international market. Such an artificial restriction would result in domestic shortages as estimates would be confined to the short side, never able to produce extra in case of a spike in demand. Such a requirement would be a poison pill for any Keystone bill.

http://keystone-xl.com/keystone-kl-oil-pipeline-keystone-oil-not-for-export-keystone-misinformation-lies-next-gen-climate-action-straight-talk-clarification-montana-nebraska-texas-california-new-york-tom-steyer-transcanada/

Straight Talking: Exports
Dispelling inaccurate and misleading claims about exports

It’s important for us to address inaccurate and misleading claims that continue to be made regarding the Keystone XL Pipeline and false information on exports, including the export of crude oil and the export of refined products from the United States.

Keystone XL Pipeline will NOT export crude oil

You’ve probably seen or heard claims that Keystone XL will export crude oil to China or other far-off lands. This isn’t true and here’s why.

If a company wants to export raw, unrefined crude oil they must first apply for a special license with the U.S. Department of Commerce and this license can only be approved under special circumstances.

In the case of Keystone XL not a single company has applied for one of these licences, nor do they intend to. In fact, Russ Girling, TransCanada’s President and CEO recently stated publicly that that not a single drop of Keystone XL crude oil will be exported.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

It helps Canadian interests not American interests

I would rather approve roads, bridges, power and communications grids that help Americans

Whose interest does it serve buying oil from psycho Arabs that want to kill us

We are exporting oil

The oil from Keystone was not for export it was stipulated in the bill.
It was solely for domestic use

That is not only not true, but it would devastate U.S. domestic oil because oil companies and speculators would have to be overly cautious in how much they produce, being unable to sell any excess on the international market. Such an artificial restriction would result in domestic shortages as estimates would be confined to the short side, never able to produce extra in case of a spike in demand. Such a requirement would be a poison pill for any Keystone bill.

http://keystone-xl.com/keystone-kl-oil-pipeline-keystone-oil-not-for-export-keystone-misinformation-lies-next-gen-climate-action-straight-talk-clarification-montana-nebraska-texas-california-new-york-tom-steyer-transcanada/

Straight Talking: Exports
Dispelling inaccurate and misleading claims about exports

It’s important for us to address inaccurate and misleading claims that continue to be made regarding the Keystone XL Pipeline and false information on exports, including the export of crude oil and the export of refined products from the United States.

Keystone XL Pipeline will NOT export crude oil

You’ve probably seen or heard claims that Keystone XL will export crude oil to China or other far-off lands. This isn’t true and here’s why.

If a company wants to export raw, unrefined crude oil they must first apply for a special license with the U.S. Department of Commerce and this license can only be approved under special circumstances.

In the case of Keystone XL not a single company has applied for one of these licences, nor do they intend to. In fact, Russ Girling, TransCanada’s President and CEO recently stated publicly that that not a single drop of Keystone XL crude oil will be exported.

The Keystone Pipeline gets crude to the refineries, but the processed range of products will be sold on markets both domestic and international. Anyone claiming that crude is sold directly from the pipeline out of Louisiana is missing a critical point. Texas has THE MOST and THE BEST refineries in the world, making it utterly absurd to ship it elsewhere to be processed.

 

[Stephanie]

Then you don't need more.

Just use what's already being collected

We need much more

We have been ignoring our infrastructure for decades

You can not keep on saying that, unless you want to get rid of liberal regulations the past 50 years

DUH !

Sorry

Environmental regulations still matter

the environmental scare tactics regarding keystone have all been refuted many times. This is political, not environmental, fiscal, or even logical.

Keystone would help the USA and do no harm to anyone.

It would harm the Greenie Meanies because they've invested a lot of poltiical capital in stopping it.

yep, and Obama is beholding to THEM and doesn't care he is stopping jobs and progress for WE THE PEOPLE. you all who voted for the puke and we all get to pay for it

 

[danielpalos]

"You owe it to us to build this because we want to sell shit to Costa Rica" is foreign entitlement.

Buying and selling is not entitlements, you twit! It's commerce.

Canada expecting us to build a pipeline just because they want it so they can sell oil to other countries, with no care whatsoever if it will have an effect on our own interests, is the very definition of entitlement.

Asshat, WE want to build that pipeline. As Samuel Jackson says, wake the fuck up! American opinion is behind this and you are nothing but a shrill environmental whacko Leftist in the extreme minority.

what we want is the general welfare of infrastructure that can deliver goods and services, public and private; not just another bailout for the wealthiest.

It's the exact same thing as the Eisenhower Interstate system that the Left praises as an example of good government.

How many people complain about losing the pony express?

 

[SwimExpert]

Whose interest does it serve buying oil from psycho Arabs that want to kill us

We are exporting oil

The oil from Keystone was not for export it was stipulated in the bill.
It was solely for domestic use

That is not only not true, but it would devastate U.S. domestic oil because oil companies and speculators would have to be overly cautious in how much they produce, being unable to sell any excess on the international market. Such an artificial restriction would result in domestic shortages as estimates would be confined to the short side, never able to produce extra in case of a spike in demand. Such a requirement would be a poison pill for any Keystone bill.

So make up your mind, the Keystone bill would have either been good for America or bad for America. You cannot say that it is good but also would devastate the US oil industry.

No, I'm saying that there is no restrictions on selling excess production on the international market. Such a restriction would destroy the U.S. domestic oil industry. You Leftists aren't really good at economics, are you?

Yet again, you're operating half cocked. Go back and read what you were replying to. Because "there were no restrictions" is actually a disagreement with the person you thought you were agreeing with. Saying "such a restriction would destroy the US domestic oil industry" actually supports rightwinger's position.

 

[Synthaholic]

It's just a fucking pipeline.

Then let Canada build it across Canada. And at the end of the line they can build a refinery to clean it, and ship it overseas. And they can dispose of the tar sands toxic sludge on Canadian land.

Canadians with a Canadian solution - imagine that!

 

[Skull Pilot]

Whose interest does it serve buying oil from psycho Arabs that want to kill us

We are exporting oil

The oil from Keystone was not for export it was stipulated in the bill.
It was solely for domestic use

That is not only not true, but it would devastate U.S. domestic oil because oil companies and speculators would have to be overly cautious in how much they produce, being unable to sell any excess on the international market. Such an artificial restriction would result in domestic shortages as estimates would be confined to the short side, never able to produce extra in case of a spike in demand. Such a requirement would be a poison pill for any Keystone bill.

http://keystone-xl.com/keystone-kl-oil-pipeline-keystone-oil-not-for-export-keystone-misinformation-lies-next-gen-climate-action-straight-talk-clarification-montana-nebraska-texas-california-new-york-tom-steyer-transcanada/

Straight Talking: Exports
Dispelling inaccurate and misleading claims about exports

It’s important for us to address inaccurate and misleading claims that continue to be made regarding the Keystone XL Pipeline and false information on exports, including the export of crude oil and the export of refined products from the United States.

Keystone XL Pipeline will NOT export crude oil

You’ve probably seen or heard claims that Keystone XL will export crude oil to China or other far-off lands. This isn’t true and here’s why.

If a company wants to export raw, unrefined crude oil they must first apply for a special license with the U.S. Department of Commerce and this license can only be approved under special circumstances.

In the case of Keystone XL not a single company has applied for one of these licences, nor do they intend to. In fact, Russ Girling, TransCanada’s President and CEO recently stated publicly that that not a single drop of Keystone XL crude oil will be exported.

The Keystone Pipeline gets crude to the refineries, but the processed range of products will be sold on markets both domestic and international. Anyone claiming that crude is sold directly from the pipeline out of Louisiana is missing a critical point. Texas has THE MOST and THE BEST refineries in the world, making it utterly absurd to ship it elsewhere to be processed.

And a US company buys the crude from Canada and then makes the profit on the refined fuels.

How is that a bad thing?

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

We are exporting oil

The oil from Keystone was not for export it was stipulated in the bill.
It was solely for domestic use

That is not only not true, but it would devastate U.S. domestic oil because oil companies and speculators would have to be overly cautious in how much they produce, being unable to sell any excess on the international market. Such an artificial restriction would result in domestic shortages as estimates would be confined to the short side, never able to produce extra in case of a spike in demand. Such a requirement would be a poison pill for any Keystone bill.

So make up your mind, the Keystone bill would have either been good for America or bad for America. You cannot say that it is good but also would devastate the US oil industry.

No, I'm saying that there is no restrictions on selling excess production on the international market. Such a restriction would destroy the U.S. domestic oil industry. You Leftists aren't really good at economics, are you?

Yet again, you're operating half cocked. Go back and read what you were replying to. Because "there were no restrictions" is actually a disagreement with the person you thought you were agreeing with. Saying "such a restriction would destroy the US domestic oil industry" actually supports rightwinger's position.

Actually you have it ass backward. I thought I was disagreeing with him but that got worked out. The larger issue is the myths you Leftists tell to derail the pipeline.

 

[Stephanie]

It's just a fucking pipeline.

Then let Canada build it across Canada. And at the end of the line they can build a refinery to clean it, and ship it overseas. And they can dispose of the tar sands toxic sludge on Canadian land.

Canadians with a Canadian solution - imagine that!

Yeah, screw us Americans because your dear leader says so

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

We are exporting oil

The oil from Keystone was not for export it was stipulated in the bill.
It was solely for domestic use

That is not only not true, but it would devastate U.S. domestic oil because oil companies and speculators would have to be overly cautious in how much they produce, being unable to sell any excess on the international market. Such an artificial restriction would result in domestic shortages as estimates would be confined to the short side, never able to produce extra in case of a spike in demand. Such a requirement would be a poison pill for any Keystone bill.

http://keystone-xl.com/keystone-kl-oil-pipeline-keystone-oil-not-for-export-keystone-misinformation-lies-next-gen-climate-action-straight-talk-clarification-montana-nebraska-texas-california-new-york-tom-steyer-transcanada/

Straight Talking: Exports
Dispelling inaccurate and misleading claims about exports

It’s important for us to address inaccurate and misleading claims that continue to be made regarding the Keystone XL Pipeline and false information on exports, including the export of crude oil and the export of refined products from the United States.

Keystone XL Pipeline will NOT export crude oil

You’ve probably seen or heard claims that Keystone XL will export crude oil to China or other far-off lands. This isn’t true and here’s why.

If a company wants to export raw, unrefined crude oil they must first apply for a special license with the U.S. Department of Commerce and this license can only be approved under special circumstances.

In the case of Keystone XL not a single company has applied for one of these licences, nor do they intend to. In fact, Russ Girling, TransCanada’s President and CEO recently stated publicly that that not a single drop of Keystone XL crude oil will be exported.

The Keystone Pipeline gets crude to the refineries, but the processed range of products will be sold on markets both domestic and international. Anyone claiming that crude is sold directly from the pipeline out of Louisiana is missing a critical point. Texas has THE MOST and THE BEST refineries in the world, making it utterly absurd to ship it elsewhere to be processed.

And a US company buys the crude from Canada and then makes the profit on the refined fuels.

How is that a bad thing?

It isn't. One thing I've noticed about the Magic Negro in his 6 years as president is he's made every one of our allies, including Canada, into an enemy. What should be a beautiful partnership involving trade and mutual benefit has been stymied by an obstructionist president beholden to extreme Left wing special interests. Canada is fortunately taking the long view, knowing that Obama is temporary and eventually rationality will assert itself and he and his ilk will be pushed aside to allow this project to go through.

 

[Faun]

We need much more

We have been ignoring our infrastructure for decades

You can not keep on saying that, unless you want to get rid of liberal regulations the past 50 years

DUH !

Sorry

Environmental regulations still matter

the environmental scare tactics regarding keystone have all been refuted many times. This is political, not environmental, fiscal, or even logical.

Keystone would help the USA and do no harm to anyone.

It would harm the Greenie Meanies because they've invested a lot of poltiical capital in stopping it.

yep, and Obama is beholding to THEM and doesn't care he is stopping jobs and progress for WE THE PEOPLE. you all who voted for the puke and we all get to pay for it

A good president does what he believes is right for the country, not what is popular with the people.

 

[SwimExpert]

Actually you have it ass backward. I thought I was disagreeing with him but that got worked out. The larger issue is the myths you Leftists tell to derail the pipeline.

*yawn*

You can continue to regurgitate the same tired bullshit all day, it won't magically turn me into a liberal. It just reinforces your own stupidity. I've already told you my objections to the XL project. You're not even able to reference a single fact, all you have are insults and name calling. What is your objection to having a new analysis done to replace the now outdated one that predicted American job losses? Are you afraid of what the results might be? I think you are. You are afraid facts might accidentally favor something Obama liked, and you simply can't have that. After all, this isn't about facts, this is just about hating Obama. Anybody who doesn't hate Obama is, well...BAD!

 

[Redfish]

You can not keep on saying that, unless you want to get rid of liberal regulations the past 50 years

DUH !

Sorry

Environmental regulations still matter

the environmental scare tactics regarding keystone have all been refuted many times. This is political, not environmental, fiscal, or even logical.

Keystone would help the USA and do no harm to anyone.

It would harm the Greenie Meanies because they've invested a lot of poltiical capital in stopping it.

yep, and Obama is beholding to THEM and doesn't care he is stopping jobs and progress for WE THE PEOPLE. you all who voted for the puke and we all get to pay for it

A good president does what he believes is right for the country, not what is popular with the people.

Here it is folks, ^^^^^^^^^^^^ this is what liberals believe. the will of the people doesn't matter, the supreme ruler can just dictate what he, in all his glory, decides is best for the country. Kim Jung Un would be proud of you comrade.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

You can not keep on saying that, unless you want to get rid of liberal regulations the past 50 years

DUH !

Sorry

Environmental regulations still matter

the environmental scare tactics regarding keystone have all been refuted many times. This is political, not environmental, fiscal, or even logical.

Keystone would help the USA and do no harm to anyone.

It would harm the Greenie Meanies because they've invested a lot of poltiical capital in stopping it.

yep, and Obama is beholding to THEM and doesn't care he is stopping jobs and progress for WE THE PEOPLE. you all who voted for the puke and we all get to pay for it

A good president does what he believes is right for the country, not what is popular with the people.

Just like any communist dictator. The truth is finally revealed.

 

[Siete]

LMAO ... poor little RW's. They've had their ass handed to them on a regular basis ever since the WON both Houses of Congress. All they have is the only thing they've ever had ... insulting the people that hand them their ass.

LMAO

 

[IlarMeilyr]

LMAO ... poor little RW's. They've had their ass handed to them on a regular basis ever since the WON both Houses of Congress. All they have is the only thing they've ever had ... insulting the people that hand them their ass.

LMAO

^ Delusional twerp.

Let's try to educate you, difficult though that will be given your microscopic intellect.

The ONLY ones kicking the ass of the right wing side of the political spectrum are the leaders and the feckless Party faithful of the GOP, even though it was the right wing that GAVE them their electoral majorities in Congress.

They are disloyal and we all pay the price.