Papago Indians Don't Want National Guard or Border Patrol on Their Land

[longknife]

The reservation is on the border and considered to be on the DEA's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas. A map of those areas can be found @ DEA / High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area

The reservation is a primary transshipment zone for methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and marijuana destined for the United States, a DEA official revealed in congressional testimony a few years ago. In 2015 Arizona led all four Border Patrol sectors in drug seizures with 928,858 pounds of drugs confiscated, according to agency figures.

I wrote about the tribe (The Tohono O'odham) and their reservation in my novel, Sonora Symphony, and understand their anger that the border splits their ancestral territory in half. breaking up families. But I never knew they were at war with the federal government over drugs - and clearly illegals - being smuggled across the border through their reservation.

The sovereignty of tribal lands is all well and good. But, does it permit outright flaunting of national security? And, if security is tightened elsewhere, it stands to reason that even more smuggling will go through the reservation if something isn't done to stop it.

More @ Indian Tribe Won’t Let National Guard Into “Most Notorious Area for Drugs Entering the County”—Border Patrol: “They Told Us They Don’t Want White Man on Their Land” - Judicial Watch

 

[ozro]

They make too much money to allow it to be stopped, this has been going on for a long time on the Tohono O'odham.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

The reservation is on the border and considered to be on the DEA's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas. A map of those areas can be found @ DEA / High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area

The reservation is a primary transshipment zone for methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and marijuana destined for the United States, a DEA official revealed in congressional testimony a few years ago. In 2015 Arizona led all four Border Patrol sectors in drug seizures with 928,858 pounds of drugs confiscated, according to agency figures.

I wrote about the tribe (The Tohono O'odham) and their reservation in my novel, Sonora Symphony, and understand their anger that the border splits their ancestral territory in half. breaking up families. But I never knew they were at war with the federal government over drugs - and clearly illegals - being smuggled across the border through their reservation.

The sovereignty of tribal lands is all well and good. But, does it permit outright flaunting of national security? And, if security is tightened elsewhere, it stands to reason that even more smuggling will go through the reservation if something isn't done to stop it.

More @ Indian Tribe Won’t Let National Guard Into “Most Notorious Area for Drugs Entering the County”—Border Patrol: “They Told Us They Don’t Want White Man on Their Land” - Judicial Watch

This is the area they grow the "crops" and do not want to be raided. Also they rent out the drug routes for the Mexican cartels.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Fine build the wall around them.....

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Then give up any government subsidies they receive

 

[DrLove]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Fine build the wall around them.....

My thoughts exactly!

 

[Anathema]

Fine build the wall around them.....

Or better yet. Take back the property they never should have been given in the first place.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Fine build the wall around them.....

Or better yet. Take back the property they never should have been given in the first place.

Meh...give them some beads, trinkets and firewater for rights to build. They fell for that shit over and over again years ago

 

[ozro]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

Its more complicated than that, the Treaty of Guadalupe in 1948 cut their ancestrial land in half. Until the 1990's, they were allowed to pass across the border in either direction.
The legal fight has been going on for some time, and is complicated by the fact that a lot of these people were born at home and have no birth certificates or proof of citizenship to eithe Mexico or the USA. Tribal members have held demonstrations in DC and cited the issue of criminals taking advantage of the situation and the safety concerns involved.
The USA and the Mexican governments have had 170 years to solve this issue, but have as yet neglected to do so. FYI, this is an unsafe area, and the "regular" members of the tribe make a valid argument that they should be provided a safer situation.

 

[Syriusly]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

Its more complicated than that, the Treaty of Guadalupe in 1948 cut their ancestrial land in half. Until the 1990's, they were allowed to pass across the border in either direction.
The legal fight has been going on for some time, and is complicated by the fact that a lot of these people were born at home and have no birth certificates or proof of citizenship to eithe Mexico or the USA. Tribal members have held demonstrations in DC and cited the issue of criminals taking advantage of the situation and the safety concerns involved.
The USA and the Mexican governments have had 170 years to solve this issue, but have as yet neglected to do so. FYI, this is an unsafe area, and the "regular" members of the tribe make a valid argument that they should be provided a safer situation.

Beef up and legally allow Tribal Police to enforce immigration laws on Tribal lands

 

[ozro]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

Its more complicated than that, the Treaty of Guadalupe in 1948 cut their ancestrial land in half. Until the 1990's, they were allowed to pass across the border in either direction.
The legal fight has been going on for some time, and is complicated by the fact that a lot of these people were born at home and have no birth certificates or proof of citizenship to eithe Mexico or the USA. Tribal members have held demonstrations in DC and cited the issue of criminals taking advantage of the situation and the safety concerns involved.
The USA and the Mexican governments have had 170 years to solve this issue, but have as yet neglected to do so. FYI, this is an unsafe area, and the "regular" members of the tribe make a valid argument that they should be provided a safer situation.

Beef up and legally allow Tribal Police to enforce immigration laws on Tribal lands

Over the years, with all that money to be made renting out trails, just who do you suppose controls this Tribal Government?

Hint: it ain't what we would call the "good guys".

 

[Syriusly]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

Its more complicated than that, the Treaty of Guadalupe in 1948 cut their ancestrial land in half. Until the 1990's, they were allowed to pass across the border in either direction.
The legal fight has been going on for some time, and is complicated by the fact that a lot of these people were born at home and have no birth certificates or proof of citizenship to eithe Mexico or the USA. Tribal members have held demonstrations in DC and cited the issue of criminals taking advantage of the situation and the safety concerns involved.
The USA and the Mexican governments have had 170 years to solve this issue, but have as yet neglected to do so. FYI, this is an unsafe area, and the "regular" members of the tribe make a valid argument that they should be provided a safer situation.

Beef up and legally allow Tribal Police to enforce immigration laws on Tribal lands

Over the years, with all that money to be made renting out trails, just who do you suppose controls this Tribal Government?

Hint: it ain't what we would call the "good guys".

Great- you have any proof of this?

The FBI awaits your call.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Just run the wall around them and leave them at the mercy of Mexico.

Fuckem

National Security > personal agenda

 

[ozro]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

Its more complicated than that, the Treaty of Guadalupe in 1948 cut their ancestrial land in half. Until the 1990's, they were allowed to pass across the border in either direction.
The legal fight has been going on for some time, and is complicated by the fact that a lot of these people were born at home and have no birth certificates or proof of citizenship to eithe Mexico or the USA. Tribal members have held demonstrations in DC and cited the issue of criminals taking advantage of the situation and the safety concerns involved.
The USA and the Mexican governments have had 170 years to solve this issue, but have as yet neglected to do so. FYI, this is an unsafe area, and the "regular" members of the tribe make a valid argument that they should be provided a safer situation.

Beef up and legally allow Tribal Police to enforce immigration laws on Tribal lands

Over the years, with all that money to be made renting out trails, just who do you suppose controls this Tribal Government?

Hint: it ain't what we would call the "good guys".

Great- you have any proof of this?

The FBI awaits your call.

You could google the subject and see for yourself how many tribal officials have come under investigation and how many convicted. The FBI knows full well about this situation, and has seen fit to open a field office in Sells, AZ. Therefore they dont need me or anyone else telling them what they already know.

 

[ozro]

Just run the wall around them and leave them at the mercy of Mexico.

Fuckem

National Security > personal agenda

That kind of whats been done in the past, resulting in border patrol checkpoints a long ways from the border.

What most of the people there want, the ones not renting trails, is for the US and Mexico to work out a land deal and making all their land USA.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The reservation is on the border and considered to be on the DEA's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas. A map of those areas can be found @ DEA / High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area

The reservation is a primary transshipment zone for methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and marijuana destined for the United States, a DEA official revealed in congressional testimony a few years ago. In 2015 Arizona led all four Border Patrol sectors in drug seizures with 928,858 pounds of drugs confiscated, according to agency figures.

I wrote about the tribe (The Tohono O'odham) and their reservation in my novel, Sonora Symphony, and understand their anger that the border splits their ancestral territory in half. breaking up families. But I never knew they were at war with the federal government over drugs - and clearly illegals - being smuggled across the border through their reservation.

The sovereignty of tribal lands is all well and good. But, does it permit outright flaunting of national security? And, if security is tightened elsewhere, it stands to reason that even more smuggling will go through the reservation if something isn't done to stop it.

More @ Indian Tribe Won’t Let National Guard Into “Most Notorious Area for Drugs Entering the County”—Border Patrol: “They Told Us They Don’t Want White Man on Their Land” - Judicial Watch

Decadent Academic Explanations Don't Add Up

Indians are an obsolete human species. Because of their bloodthirsty banditry, they were driven to the frigid North of Asia by the evolved species. From there, they lucked out and crossed over into the Americas, where they preyed on one another until Columbus put mankind back on the path of world evolution.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Fine build the wall around them.....

Nuke Till They Puke

The Wall needs to be all the way around the savages in order to contain the radiation.

 

[toobfreak]

The reservation is on the border and considered to be on the DEA's High Intensity Drug Trafficking Areas. A map of those areas can be found @ DEA / High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area

The reservation is a primary transshipment zone for methamphetamine, cocaine, heroin and marijuana destined for the United States, a DEA official revealed in congressional testimony a few years ago. In 2015 Arizona led all four Border Patrol sectors in drug seizures with 928,858 pounds of drugs confiscated, according to agency figures.

I wrote about the tribe (The Tohono O'odham) and their reservation in my novel, Sonora Symphony, and understand their anger that the border splits their ancestral territory in half. breaking up families. But I never knew they were at war with the federal government over drugs - and clearly illegals - being smuggled across the border through their reservation.

The sovereignty of tribal lands is all well and good. But, does it permit outright flaunting of national security? And, if security is tightened elsewhere, it stands to reason that even more smuggling will go through the reservation if something isn't done to stop it.

More @ Indian Tribe Won’t Let National Guard Into “Most Notorious Area for Drugs Entering the County”—Border Patrol: “They Told Us They Don’t Want White Man on Their Land” - Judicial Watch

One of the few times I would side against the Indians. National security trumps Indian rights. Move over Chief, the National Guard is coming through. At some point, the USA MUST have access to its borders---- ALL of its borders. No Indian nation has exclusivity to owning any portion of our national border.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Their land, their right.

And just wait until Trump starts declaring imminent domain over property owners who don't want his big, beautiful, stupid wall on their land.

One of about 100 reasons it'll never happen.

Its more complicated than that, the Treaty of Guadalupe in 1948 cut their ancestrial land in half. Until the 1990's, they were allowed to pass across the border in either direction.
The legal fight has been going on for some time, and is complicated by the fact that a lot of these people were born at home and have no birth certificates or proof of citizenship to eithe Mexico or the USA. Tribal members have held demonstrations in DC and cited the issue of criminals taking advantage of the situation and the safety concerns involved.
The USA and the Mexican governments have had 170 years to solve this issue, but have as yet neglected to do so. FYI, this is an unsafe area, and the "regular" members of the tribe make a valid argument that they should be provided a safer situation.

Beef up and legally allow Tribal Police to enforce immigration laws on Tribal lands

Over the years, with all that money to be made renting out trails, just who do you suppose controls this Tribal Government?

Hint: it ain't what we would call the "good guys".

Great- you have any proof of this?

The FBI awaits your call.

Yeah, like the FBI will do anything that actually smacks of enforcing laws as opposed to undermining political enemies of their leftist leadership! Pfffttt!...