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    Activists from "Oldham Justice and Peace" called for closure of factory of "Elbit Ferranti" Israeli arms company in Manchester in protest against killing of Palestinians by drones produced by company.
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    Empty words that have no basis in fact or logic.
     
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    15 years after ICJ declared Separation Wall illegal, West Bank barrier continues to destroy Palestinian lives.
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    The ICJ had no jurisdiction and this was just an advisory opinion that has no standing. This is a fine example of why so many countries, including he US, do not acknowledge the ICJ.
     
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    Wow, an academic whose specialty is anti Israeli propaganda!
     
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    It is hypocritical in that you complain about "Jew-only settlements" but never seem to mention Arab-only settlements (despite the actual difference in law in those settlements).

    Its hypocritical in that you demand equality between Jews and Arabs in Israel and Area C while supporting and insisting upon the maintenance of Jew-free zones in Areas A, B, C, and Gaza.

    Its hypocritical because you ignore the reality that segregation of Jews and Arabs is largely both mutually agreeable and mutually sought after, and that there is a WAR on-going between these two peoples.

    And its hypocritical because you never seem to acknowledge the illegal building by Arabs, often aided by the international community and NGOs illegally interfering in Israel's sovereign rights.

    It is not a political program. A political program would be a government transferring portions of its population to another territory in order to establish a claim. (See Morocco and Western Sahara). Israel and the Jewish people already have a claim. They have, by far, the BEST claim. By right and not on sufferance.

    The settlement of Judea and Samaria by the Jewish people is not a political program -- its a program of asserting the historical, national and sovereign rights in the homeland of the Jewish people. It is lead, largely, by the Jewish people themselves (though Israel, of course, must adapt and make response as appropriate).

    Why would the Jewish people, as individuals and collectively, obligated to refrain from living in parts of their homeland? Why is Israel obligated to actively prevent Jews from living in parts of their own homeland? They aren't. And she isn't.

    Well, there are, of course. There are also encroachments from Areas A and B into Area C, which are permitted by Israel. You just don't like to acknowledge them. But I'd also suggest you consider how Arab Palestinians are likely to treat Arabs building a town with the explicit intention of annexation for Israel.
     
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