"OUR DEMOCRACY UNDER ATTACK" The culprits have been discovered, and of course they're liberals

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    You have an interesting point. Conservative media does call democrats the 'enemy'. They do divide people along the left/right line. If you believe in one side or the other, and you are trying to get more votes than the other side, is that hate? When I think of dividing people, I think along skin color(a left specialty), economic status(another left specialty, although republicans do have an annoying habit of thinking all dems are unemployed.) I'll own that.) I'm not sure it is hate for a republican to say they must beat a democrat or vice versa. Does rightwing media promote a republican agenda, absolutely. Is it promoting hate? I'll give a few examples of the left. The New York Times opinion editor who specializes in bashing white people, Joy Behar who calls Christian's crazy(Some actually are, but not the majority), Obama who talked about people clinging to religion and guns. Ever listen to any network cover a Trump rally. I'm sure the crowds are discussed fairly. Every other talking head says the Trump base is stupid and bigoted. That is over 30% of the entire population being trashed. I don't see people like Rush or Tucker attacking democrat voters in this way. Ann Coulter, she pushes it. I don't know. The biggest example I can think of on the right is going after liberal professors and colleges. That is a pretty specific group. Is it hate to point out that most professors are liberal and promote liberal ideals? Is that pushing hate?
     
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    It's a fair question, but it's an intellectually dishonest and obtuse question.

    And, knowing in advance that no examples are ever good enough for wingers, I'll toss out a few on MSNBC: Maddow, Matthews, Hayes, O'Donnell and Joy Reid.

    I know, I know: Those aren't good examples. I've played this game with wingers on both ends about a thousand times.

    Again, if the answer is not screamingly obvious, there's no use in providing it.
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    This is why I asked, because I knew it would be on the ridiculous side. Not intellectually, or otherwise, dishonest in any way.

    Can you cite an example of Maddow being equivalent of Tucker?

    Also, how are you defining the term "winger?"

    Lastly, do you consider me to be a winger?
     
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    This isn't an honest assessment of what she said/did.

    She SPECIFICALLY called Pence crazy, for SPECIFICALLY claiming to talk to God. It was NOT an indictment on Christians, being a Christian, or Christianity. It was specifically referring to Pence, and Pense alone.

    As a lifelong Christian myself, this sentiment is common even within Christianity itself, to kinda give folk who like to walk around talking about "When I talked to God, HE told me, such and such." There are those types in Christianity and many fellow Christians look at them funny, and usually dismiss it in a friendly/cookie sort of way.

    So what Joy Behar did/said was not much different.

    What happened with this situation was rightwing zealots WILLFULLY making her comment outrageous, aka fake outrage, which was the same thing they did to every. single. thing. that President Barrack Hussein Obama said/did.
     
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    All the Division Pimps use the same three-legged strategy:
    1. Highlight their agenda and paint it in absolutely the best possible light whenever possible, no matter how transparent.
    2. Degrade the other sides' agenda and paint it in absolutely the worst possible light whenever possible, no matter how transparent.
    3. Ignore, avoid, distort, mock, downplay and caricature any information that does not support their one-sided agenda, no matter how transparent.
    If you truly don't see that Maddow does this, great. The fact is, I believe that you're actually being honest when you say that, and that it's an example of the power of partisan ideology I find so fascinating.

    My definition of "winger" would certainly include a partisan who regularly exhibits those three behaviors, among other things. From what I've seen, yes, you'd fall into that category for me. You specifically asked, that's not an attack.
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    You are right, Behar was just talking about Pence. I should not have even listed her because I feel she is the left's version of Alex Jones. The party nut. I apologize for the misrepresentation. I feel the other examples are solid, and not exaggerated. I am of the opinion that supporting your views and opposing those who are running against you is not pushing hatred or unfairly polarizing. I think the voters and the candidate's family should be off limits. I also don't like pitting the voters against each other with race or economic division, regardless of what side you are on. I have a great respect for many of the democrats on this board. This is a good opportunity for me to apologize to Mac. I went off the rails a bit. You are frustrating, but often you hit the nail right on the head. I get a bit aggravated by the whole republicans hate minorities stuff. I realize you are not a race baiter, and again I'm sorry. Finally, I want to give a shout out to candycorn, she is very civil, and treats everyone fairly, and I am a big fan of Oldlady. She is an independent thinker who calls things as she sees them.
     
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    state something he has been wrong about.
     
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    Couldn't tell you, although someone may be able to.

    Of course, that isn't my point.

    Slanting information to push an agenda is not the same as making up information.

    Do you understand that?
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    sure it's your point, you just stated 'slanting information'. Like what? name something he slanted.
     

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