OTHER Conservative parties?

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    Seeing as I am new, and haven't seen much on this topic, how do people feel about alternative parties?

    There are other conservative parties out there such as the Constitution party (which I would think is more appropriate than the Republican based on compromise).

    I was curious since most people would believe you only have a choice between the D and R parties, and then vote for the lesser of 2 evils.
     
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    ALso it's a choice between hanging onto every one of your issues instead of being politically effective ie. like you said: How much do you want to compromise? My view on compromise is that sometimes you must on a smaller issue to win the bigger ones which have severe consequences attached to them.
     
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    I have always believed doing what is right is better than what is "effective". Since I have been criticized often for not being very compromising, it intrigues me to hear the perspectives of others.

    I guess I can understand that, although from my perspective, the end result of that logic ends up endlessly breaking even or losing without really gaining ground.
     
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    Well, who can really specify with any accuracy the end result of the logic of effectiveness. I mean, nothing would happen if we lived according the opposing paradigm, despite the zen koan you've used to trivialize the hope of progress.
     
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    I think there's a bumper sticker here:

    Question Effectiveness!
     
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    NewGuy, you can probably tell what party I favor... but to be honest, I think that the GOP generally has the best policies for the issues that are most important to me. The Constitution Party has some great goals, but they don't seem any different than the conservative base of the GOP. So why they would form a third party is beyond me.
     
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    Actually, they are uncompromising in regard to sticking to Constitutional authority without making deals and compromising themselves. THAT is why they exist. If you read about their beliefs, it becomes quite clear.

    Aside from that, the common person sure seems to ignore the 3rd parties, when in may cases, getting a 3rd party into a real run would cause all others to stick to their promises and toe the line more.
     
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    i like both the reform party and the constitution party although i differ from both of those parties just slightly i think they are both better than the republican party which i believe has no guts and panders to the left and the minorities and only cares about playing politics and will never do any of the following-
    1.end foreign aid
    2.protect american jobs
    3.end all welfare programs
    4.privatize social security
    5.put the military on our border
    6.stop the pork barrell spending and govt waste
    7.term limits
    8.get the u.n. out of the u.s. and the u.s. out of the u.n.
    9.balance the budget and pay off our nations debt
    10.get the federal govt out of education(end the dept of education) and return the responsibility of educating to the states(except for block grants to the states for no interest college loans).
     
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    They don't call the GOP the Stupid Party for nothing. The GOP is more interesting in kissing minority ass, opening borders, throwing away jobs, blowing billions on military misadventures and trying to federalize state issues they lost decades ago than in pursuing true conservatism.

    The Constitution Party is good at least on paper, so is the America First Party. Neither have a chance of success.

    I guess what I consider sometimes is retaking the GOP from the neocons and the anti-whites. There is something within the GOP called NFRA http://www.gopwing.com/ that advocates actual conservatism. I've been meaning to check into them.
     
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    If we all thought like that, we wouldn't have had America to begin with.

    They both have a tremendous chance of success if people stop voting for who will win... (which is not logical at ALL), and vote for who they think is RIGHT.

    THAT is exercising the right to vote....not voting for 1 of 2 promised to win without wanting either.

    Voting for someone who will do 2 good things, but further a landslide of bad IS NOT justification of a vote FOR your country, it is a continual vote AGAINST your country.
     

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