Discussion in 'Politics' started by Paulie, Jan 16, 2008.
Read in it's entirety at the link.
No comment Kathianne? You LOVE discussing Ron Paul. I thought this would be of some interest to at least YOU.
Come on Kath, you're gonna leave me hanging on this?
Oh, and thanks by the way. You know what I mean.
Actually doesn't surprise me at all, one has no problems finding a 'jew' that thinks that Israel should not be in the Middle East, while living in Israel. Go figure.
As you've shown, there are plenty of anecdotal stories, pictures, etc., to 'prove' your points, problem comes with the totality of the evidence. Do you really want to get me started again?
BTW, you're welcome and it was justified.
ya those treacherous "Jews" huh kat...go figure
All true. But also, there are many orthodox jews who don't believe Israel is supposed to exist until the coming of the messiah and rebuilding of the temple. So preservation of Israel isn't really an issue for them.
You know, it's the whole G-d will provide thing.
As someone I know has said, 'save me from the orthodox' of any religion.
Imagine the amount of revenue the US could get in soap deals if Orthodox jews took baths.
It is particularily troubling that Americans are more impressed with a fluff speech that has no substance, like Obamas 'hope and change' speeches then one that outlines policy changes, gives facts, analyzes the benefits, etc. I think this problem stems from the size of government itself. We are increasingly being told what to think by the government. From education systems that direct us until well into our 20's to news programs that recite what the branches of the government release to more subtle techniques like funding specific research or helping various entities. How can we expect the citizens to police a government that has so much control over the peoples thoughts? If Ron Paul says we should be on the gold standard still very few Americans know what he's talking about or are even aware of a debate like this regarding money. The government is deliberetly not teaching this to Americans, and instead teaching fluff. With taxes so high most Americans don't have the time to research these things on their own so they respond more to elements they do understand such as looks, charisma, nice sounding promises.
I remember in Brooklyn watching this cable access show with this flannel-shirt-and-baseball-hat-wearing Ultra Zionist. He would always say, "The neo-Nazis are right. The U.S. shouldn't fund Israel. That would force it to stand up for itself and all the soft Jews to get tough." I always thought that was kind of admirable. Like Ron Paul I have zero problem with Israel wanting to survive. I have a major problem with it being funded by my work.
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