Oregon Measure 114. Sets new rules for the purchase of firearms.

[Hollie]

You can always go to the corner and buy a gun smuggled in from Alabama for $100.

Or, we could choose to defend out Constitutional rights and not allow this country to be ruled by mini Emperors who decree by "... because I say so".

Trudeau orders an immediate freeze on the sale of handguns in Canada

It's also now forbidden to bring newly acquired handguns into the country. "We have seen too many examples of horrific tragedies involving firearms," the Canadian prime minister said.

www.npr.org

 

[martybegan]

I prefer a 20 gauge for home defense.

Also easier to get than a handgun, but NYC law says it has to be locked and unloaded. It says the same about a handgun but at least with that you can say it was under your control while you slept as it was in your bedside table's drawer.

Hard to do that with a shotgun.

 

[g5000]

no.

"The Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct"
- USSC v Bruen
Thus, the 2nd amendment protects the right to own and use magazines that hold more than 10 rounds.

USSC v Bruen had nothing to do witih high capacity magazines.

The 1994 federal AWB contained a high capacity magazine ban.

California and New Jersey have 10 round magazine limits and the lower courts have upheld such bans.

The Supremes have not ruled yet.

 

[g5000]

Also easier to get than a handgun, but NYC law says it has to be locked and unloaded. It says the same about a handgun but at least with that you can say it was under your control while you slept as it was in your bedside table's drawer.

Hard to do that with a shotgun.

Well, who's to say my shotgun wasn't unloaded and locked if the burglar is dead and can't tell his side of the story?

 

[M14 Shooter]

USSC v Bruen had nothing to do witih high capacity magazines.

What about ""The Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct" leads you to conclude the court will uphold a magazine ban?

 

[g5000]

What about ""The Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct" leads you to conclude the court will uphold a magazine ban?

As I said, the lower courts have upheld such bans.

 

[M14 Shooter]

As I said, the lower courts have upheld such bans.

Not since v Bruen, which was decided, in part, to negate the 2-part process the lower courts used to uphold those bans.

I ask again:
What about ""The Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct" leads you to conclude the court will uphold a magazine ban?

 

[g5000]

Not since v Bruen
I ask again:
What about ""The Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct" leads you to conclude the court will uphold a magazine ban?

Bruen had nothing to do with magazines.

 

[martybegan]

Well, who's to say my shotgun wasn't unloaded and locked if the burglar is dead and can't tell his side of the story?

It shouldn't have to be done like that.

But mean tweets, right?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Bruen had nothing to do with magazines.

v Bruen, was decided, in part, to negate the 2-part process the lower courts used to uphold those magazine bans.

I ask again :
What about ""The Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct" leads you to conclude the court will uphold a magazine ban?

Don;t worry - we both know you don't have a meaningful response.
And so, your claim that the ban will be upheld is a statement of ignorance or dishonesty..

 

[2aguy]

The high capacity magazine ban will stand up in court.

The rest of the Measure probably won't

No, actually, it won’t. It is already challenged in other states and Bruen will stop it.

 

[2aguy]

USSC v Bruen had nothing to do witih high capacity magazines.

The 1994 federal AWB contained a high capacity magazine ban.

California and New Jersey have 10 round magazine limits and the lower courts have upheld such bans.

The Supremes have not ruled yet.

Are you dumb? Yes. Bruen set the rules for looking at laws impacting the 2nd Amendment and banning magazines just cause you don’t like them doesn’t work anymore.

 

[TNHarley]

Canada has very similar laws and they aren't a shithole.

Sounds like a shit hole to me

 

[M14 Shooter]

The high capacity magazine ban will stand up in court.

^^^
This a statement of ignorance or dishonesty., as there is no rational or factual basis for this claim.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

USSC:
"...When the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct...."

Thus...
Simple ownership and possession of a firearm is protected from these restrictions by the 2nd.
Ownership and possession of magazine with a capacity exceeding 10 rounds is protected from these restrictions by the 2nd.

Why do anti-gun loons continue to create restrictions they know are unconstitutional?

Such is the hypocrisy of the right – when it comes to guns “states’ rights” goes out the window.

If states have the right to compel women to give birth against their will through force of law, then states likewise have the right to regulate firearms as they see fit.

Conservatives can’t have it both ways.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Such is the hypocrisy of the right – when it comes to guns “states’ rights” goes out the window.

Wow.
This is pathetic, even for you.

As you know, the states do not have the right to violate the US Constitution.
And, as you know, under current jurisprudence, when the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct.

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The high capacity magazine ban will stand up in court.

The rest of the Measure probably won't

Not necessarily.

In Heller III, the DC Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the District’s registration requirement, registration fee requirement, and the requirement that one completes a safety and training course.

The courts have also upheld permit requirements and background check requirements.

California’s magazine capacity measure is currently making its way through the courts post Bruen, so the Oregon measure will likely be enjoined until the 9th Circuit rules.

 

[M14 Shooter]

In Heller III, the DC Circuit Court of Appeals upheld the District’s registration requirement, registration fee requirement, and the requirement that one completes a safety and training course.
The courts have also upheld permit requirements and background check requirements.

How many of these have been upheld since Bruen?

 

[g5000]

^^^
This a statement of ignorance or dishonesty., as there is no rational or factual basis for this claim.

Yeah, except for the fact it has already stood up in the lower courts.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Yeah, except for the fact it has already stood up in the lower courts.

How many of these have been upheld since Bruen?
How many of these are consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation?

"When the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct."
- USSC