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    Hit the link and you will see a sermon called "good Judgment". If you are willing, would you read or listen to it and give me your opinion on what you feel the guy is saying, and what is the point he is trying to get across. Thanks much.

    Lighthouse Baptist Church
     
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    i made it to the part where children are not to be believe over accusations of child molestation......did the 3 witnesses sound a lot like what muslims believe....

    no i dont agree
     
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    Thank you strollingbones. Just a few more opinions if I can get them then an explanation. Promise.
     
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    one should not rush to judgement, I agree with that much...but if there must be a wittiness to sexual abuse , then that simply sounds like a formula for rape
     
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    Ok, I see where your coming from. How far you get into it ? If you made it all the way through, would you say the preacher had made a decision ? That he had made a judgment on the situation and the people involved ?
     
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    clearly he has judged the girl of not being credible...he said so
     
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    This is my thinking as well. First, I dont blather my personnel shit on the internet. In this case, I needed a sounding board. Some one or two people to hear the shit and opine. You got the sermon, now some details. i have to be careful here as the police are involved, and there is an investigation on going. The Girl is my daughter. The accused is my best friend. He is also involved with the church band, as well as other church duties, like posting the sermons. The event took place two years ago on her birthday. It DID NOT happen at the church, or during a church function. I sat and listened to that sermon. I stared into the preachers eyes as he gave it. I did the same for the accused fellow while he stared back and sang "come to Jesus". The Deacons of the church kept there eyes on me, and two were stationed being me and one in front. This is in the church I have been a member of since before that preacher was there, and the deacons, and the accused. I physically helped build the church. In my mind thees men called me out. Not just me, but my daughter. I was going to give up on the church, and the Wife agreed. We asked my Daughter and she told us NO, absolutely not. She proceeded to tell me That she will NOT be run out of her church by the scumbag who did what he did to her. She told me that even if he is not convicted, that everyone will know, and that he will not be able to do it again and get away with it. My first thought was that my girl has fire in her belly. Then I cried some because my best friend did this, and the preacher at my church basically called my daughter a whore. All the stereotypes you see on life times. Then I got up this morning and figured that I am proud of my daughter. I admire her grit and willingness to fight this out. i am done weeping like a babe, now its war. This was not an issue in the church until that sermon. Now we will fight this out in the Church. The goal will be to destroy that stupid fucking red neck and have him ejected. As for the accused, the cops told us that he may not be prosecuted for it, but that we should have a dandy civil case and that we SHOULD sue for damages. Either way, he is going down. My daughter looked me in the eyes and asked me not to be rash. Told me that if I went off we would lose. She is strong. And I am a proud (but sad) father. Sorry to rant. Had to put it somewhere and no one I know will look here so I figured why the hell not.
     
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    o hell let me turn down the music and all....i only got to page 5....let me go read the whole thing....i am gonna be kicking some early ass if this is not worth is.....brb
     
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    he tries to pull off this noble mon act at the end.....balancing between the two...he has already judged and judged against the child.....
     
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    your daughter is brave....if she leaves then it will be even easier for them to brand her those nasty names.....your best friend....man that is just tough...it will be hard to prove anything ...with the passing of time....i cant imagine her fear....as that time passed...the pastor was wrong to bring this into the church...these are the types of things that divide a church
     

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