One More Tube of Sunscreen, Then Pass the Sweaters

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    Geez, couldn't make this stuff up if one tried:

    http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/...l?id=597d0677-2a05-47b4-b34f-b84068db11f4&p=4

     
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    More of your idle thoughts, kitty?
     
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    I caught this article yesterday and it made me chuckle. The author is no hack, he is a reputable prof and knows what he's talking about. Just further proof that some science is always in flux.

    I guess time will tell.
     
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    Anyone noticed that the solar graph in the article looks a bit like a hockey stick (for the last 1000 years)?
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    Are skeptics going to complain that it has missed out the medieval warm period?

    Probably the biggest challenge for a solar cause for recent warming is that sunspot numbers have not increased since 1950, despite if they are at a general 8000 year high. It would be quite useful if nature would make the next few solar cycles very low so that the solar connection can be tested more. If solar and co2 goes up then it's a bit difficult to know how much warming each is providing.
     
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    climate changes, lets not get hysterical
     
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    First Snow in Johannesburg and Pretoria Since 1981 and 1968
    Posted by Noel Sheppard on June 27, 2007 - 23:10.
    As the worm has clearly turned on all this global warming hooey, it seems appropriate to begin recording COLD events across the planet not just to highlight the foolishness, but also to infuriate those still buying into the junk science.

    With that in mind, it snowed in parts of South Africa Tuesday that haven’t seen the frosty white stuff in many decades.

    Thanks, global warming!

    As deliciously (and frigidly) reported by Bloomberg Wednesday (emphasis added to really irk the alarmists):

    Johannesburg recorded its first confirmed snowfall for almost 26 years overnight as temperatures dropped below freezing in South Africa's largest city, grounding flights at its main airport...Snow last blanketed Johannesburg for a single day on Sept. 11, 1981.

    Light snowfall was also recorded in Pretoria, the capital, which last had snow on June 11, 1968, the newswire said.

    June 1968! Most of the hyperventilating hysterical probably weren't born yet!

    http://newsbusters.org/node/13787
     

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    Glaciers Growing in France, Switzerland, and Washington: Will Media Care?
    Posted by Noel Sheppard on June 28, 2007 - 10:46.
    One of the pet peeves of anthropogenic global warming skeptics is how the media and climate change alarmists like soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore only address events supporting that which they conflate and abuse data to prove.

    A perfect example is the discussion concerning receding glaciers, as these folks will either ignore when such recession began, or the other possible environmental issues that many scientists believe to be responsible.

    Maybe even worse, the media alarmists will always ignore information that might throw a monkey wrench into the position they’re trying to advance.

    With that in mind, it seems a metaphysical certitude American press outlets will ignore reports of glacial expansion around the globe, most hypocritically as one such growing ice mass is actually right here in the U.S. as reported by Washington’s News Tribune

    Crater Glacier is like no other glacier in the world. It’s the only glacier with lava extruding through it and forming a dome. And while most glaciers are receding, Crater Glacier is advancing three feet per day and forming a collar around the growing dome.

    A glacier that’s growing? How can that be? According to Al Gore and the supposed consensus of scientists claiming the global warming debate to be over, glaciers everywhere are receding.

    http://newsbusters.org/node/13798
     
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    The point is not all scientists agree on global warming. But whats in a name, we should do all we can to take care of the earth, oh sorry i was too political :p

     
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    When Al Gore uses pictures of melting glaciers to illustrate "proof" for "global warming", it's hard to take him seriously in the future when he tries to shift his opinion.
     
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    what baffles me is, the u.n. says and i quote using farms to raise cattle for the consumption of humans meaning meat, causes more green houses gasses then anything combined. Al Gore sounds like a moron, or a liar.

    All the articles i Post have this in common.

    A November 2006 United Nations report revealed that raising animals for food generates more greenhouse gases than all the cars and trucks in the world combined. Senior U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) official Henning Steinfeld said that the meat industry is “one of the most significant contributors to today’s most serious environmental problems
    http://www.massanimalrights.org/enviroflier.html

    http://www.newstarget.com/021296.html

    http://truthtellingforum.com/ourblogs/?p=73

    http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=24825


    However, It seems I came across another point of view, that says the u.n. is full of something, I came across this by accident, but since i did, Ill let you decide for yourself, who is right.

    http://www.beeffrompasturetoplate.org/mythmeatproductiondestroysnaturalresources.aspx


    http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/homestead/2007-February/011385.html


    I could only find this one link, and for the sake of being fair I put it up there, without my opinion, so you can judge for yourself.

    What do you think?


    oh and these two links are very interesting if you care about the technical side of global warming.

    They are way over my head.

    http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sep...ne_could_be_far_worse_than_carbon_dioxide.htm

    http://illconsidered.blogspot.com/2006/02/co2-lags-not-leads.html
     

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