On Human Nature and Politics

[Abishai100]

If we look at nations that embrace capitalism, we see a preference for mercantile inventiveness. This stands in contrast to socialist economic nations that seem to embrace a standardized production method of goods marketing.

Perhaps there is something in human nature then that seeks to create options for individualization (or style if you prefer) and socialization (or standardization if you prefer).

Examination of transfers and contracts regarding disposable goods (i.e., paper cups) in our modern consumerism convenience themed global market seems to find bridges between individualization and socialization, albeit very colloquially.

How then is human nature being negotiated in our modern society of consumerism globalization (i.e., eTrade)?

Mercantilism-inspection Hollywood (USA) movies such as "The Wolf of Wall Street" (2013) explore this new age intrigue.

 

[PoliticalChic]

By our very nature we will never live in the fantasy world of live and peace that liberals envision. We must not stand as part of the "world community" because that's what those who want to bring us down want. We are a great and powerful nation. We should look out for number1. Same applies to life. Why are my hard earned tax dollars going to support lazy people that have done nothing more than get pregnant?

Your tax dollars go to helping the poor because more people want to help the poor than do not.

My tax dollars go to militarism and imperialism because more people want to waste money and lives on that folly than do not.

Life will never adjust itself to suit you perfectly. You are naive to believe that.

"Your tax dollars go to helping the poor..."

No, they don't.

In fact, they do the very opposite.



You've just convinced me to put up an OP on the topic today....in your ignorance.

 

[NYcarbineer]

By our very nature we will never live in the fantasy world of live and peace that liberals envision. We must not stand as part of the "world community" because that's what those who want to bring us down want. We are a great and powerful nation. We should look out for number1. Same applies to life. Why are my hard earned tax dollars going to support lazy people that have done nothing more than get pregnant?

Your tax dollars go to helping the poor because more people want to help the poor than do not.

My tax dollars go to militarism and imperialism because more people want to waste money and lives on that folly than do not.

Life will never adjust itself to suit you perfectly. You are naive to believe that.

"Your tax dollars go to helping the poor..."

No, they don't.

In fact, they do the very opposite.



You've just convinced me to put up an OP on the topic today....in your ignorance.

If you can make an argument that, for example, Medicaid and public schooling don't help the poor, then by means do so. Those are, afterall, paid for with tax dollars.

Show us how poor people who get the above would be at least as well off or even better off if they didn't receive them.

 

[Redfish]

Would you like to defend her position? She can't. Her position is that there are no constitutional checks on executive power.

Go ahead. Show us how smart you and she are.

Actually, I can search this thread and show multiple times where she defended her position adroitly. You chose to ignore it out of hand, for want of attacking her character. That really shows how smart you are, Carbine. My only regret was not getting to this thread sooner.

I'll ask you the same question then that I asked Redfish (who immediately fled btw).

Since you want to defend the alleged brilliance of PC, and since I am in fact a liberal, then you explain, precisely, in detail, and supported by evidence,

what PC is accusing ME of in the opening of the OP:

Who would be more aware of human nature than ......human beings?
Yet, a large portion of the population is willing to remain oblivious to their own nature, or, at the least, to pretend to be unaware of same.

History reveals it....
Experience reveals it....

Liberals ignore it.

...and then, why she is correct in that accusation.

Explain and defend the above charge, in detail, and with evidence.

Unlike you, I have a life outside of this silly message board. I do not sit here all day waiting for some idiot like you to ask a stupid question.

The essence of this discussion is that liberalism is not based on logic and reason, it is based on feeeeeeeeeelings and emooooooootion.

You on the left cannot defend your ideas based on logical thinking, so you always revert to insults, racism, or name calling when you are destroyed by conservative logic and reality.

You want the government to be in complete control of our lives, you are willing to submit to the will of nanny government rather than have to be responsible for yourself.

You have no idea what freedom and democracy mean.

But the good thing is that obama has destroyed your cause for the next 20 or 30 years.

 

[Redfish]

Your tax dollars go to helping the poor because more people want to help the poor than do not.

My tax dollars go to militarism and imperialism because more people want to waste money and lives on that folly than do not.

Life will never adjust itself to suit you perfectly. You are naive to believe that.

"Your tax dollars go to helping the poor..."

No, they don't.

In fact, they do the very opposite.



You've just convinced me to put up an OP on the topic today....in your ignorance.

If you can make an argument that, for example, Medicaid and public schooling don't help the poor, then by means do so. Those are, afterall, paid for with tax dollars.

Show us how poor people who get the above would be at least as well off or even better off if they didn't receive them.

helping the poor is an admirable goal and we should all participate in that. Making the poor dependent on the government for life is a terrible goal and we should all fight that.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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NYcarbineer, the conservative is not naïve. He's well aware of the fact that "[l]ife will never adjust itself to suit [one] perfectly." That's the whole point, infant.

You should learn to respond to what I actually say as opposed to what you wish me to have said.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Your tax dollars go to helping the poor..."

No, they don't.

In fact, they do the very opposite.



You've just convinced me to put up an OP on the topic today....in your ignorance.

If you can make an argument that, for example, Medicaid and public schooling don't help the poor, then by means do so. Those are, afterall, paid for with tax dollars.

Show us how poor people who get the above would be at least as well off or even better off if they didn't receive them.

helping the poor is an admirable goal and we should all participate in that. Making the poor dependent on the government for life is a terrible goal and we should all fight that.

That's lovely platitude that says nothing.

Are you implying that there should be a cutoff point for Medicaid and public education?

...we'll pay for your poor children's Medicaid for the first 5 years and then we'll start cutting back on it year by year so, say, by the time the kid is 10, if his parents are still poor, he loses his Medicaid.

By the time the child reaches high school, if his parents are still poor, we kick him out unless his parents comes up with the market value of his education.

That is how you end dependency?

 

[deltex1]

Thanks for nothing I want my 3 minutes of life back

If you needed 3 minutes to read and understand that...you're a libtard.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Actually, I can search this thread and show multiple times where she defended her position adroitly. You chose to ignore it out of hand, for want of attacking her character. That really shows how smart you are, Carbine. My only regret was not getting to this thread sooner.

I'll ask you the same question then that I asked Redfish (who immediately fled btw).

Since you want to defend the alleged brilliance of PC, and since I am in fact a liberal, then you explain, precisely, in detail, and supported by evidence,

what PC is accusing ME of in the opening of the OP:

Who would be more aware of human nature than ......human beings?
Yet, a large portion of the population is willing to remain oblivious to their own nature, or, at the least, to pretend to be unaware of same.

History reveals it....
Experience reveals it....

Liberals ignore it.

...and then, why she is correct in that accusation.

Explain and defend the above charge, in detail, and with evidence.

Unlike you, I have a life outside of this silly message board. I do not sit here all day waiting for some idiot like you to ask a stupid question.

.

You have 22 posts per day on this board. I have 23.

 

[Redfish]

If you can make an argument that, for example, Medicaid and public schooling don't help the poor, then by means do so. Those are, afterall, paid for with tax dollars.

Show us how poor people who get the above would be at least as well off or even better off if they didn't receive them.

helping the poor is an admirable goal and we should all participate in that. Making the poor dependent on the government for life is a terrible goal and we should all fight that.

That's lovely platitude that says nothing.

Are you implying that there should be a cutoff point for Medicaid and public education?

...we'll pay for your poor children's Medicaid for the first 5 years and then we'll start cutting back on it year by year so, say, by the time the kid is 10, if his parents are still poor, he loses his Medicaid.

By the time the child reaches high school, if his parents are still poor, we kick him out unless his parents comes up with the market value of his education.

That is how you end dependency?

public education is NOT welfare. We have always had public education through high school, no one is suggesting that be changed.

for able bodied people, welfare, unemployment, and foodstamps should have a time limit. Those programs should not be a way of life. Making those programs last a lifetime has destroyed the family structure in our inner cities. liberalism has failed, as it always does.