Omission: Political 'Brainwashing'

[PoliticalChic]

Seems like everyone is familiar with Republican Senator Goldwater’s vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act…and some even know that he explained, as a constitutionalist, that the reason was the belief that the Congress had no right to mandate how individuals must use their private property…in other words, the limits of the commerce clause.

A few even know that Goldwater had a long history of fighting segregation and racism, including signing previous civil rights acts.

But…how many know about the Southern Manifesto?



1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

1. How very nice to see you praying on Sunday morning.
Amen.


2. Possibly. in submission to religious fervor, you overlooked the very OP to which you were, ostensibly, responding...

...as you didn't either address the OP, nor rebut same.....

...you are subscribing to its import?


Well, then, ...

....another 'Amen!'



Good to see learning finally taking hold.

 

[freedombecki]

Seems like everyone is familiar with Republican Senator Goldwater’s vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act…and some even know that he explained, as a constitutionalist, that the reason was the belief that the Congress had no right to mandate how individuals must use their private property…in other words, the limits of the commerce clause.

A few even know that Goldwater had a long history of fighting segregation and racism, including signing previous civil rights acts.

But…how many know about the Southern Manifesto?



1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

Thank you, PoliticalChic, for shedding light on this unfortunate obfuscation technique being employed all over by Democrats, eager to foist extreme views on America. We have been warned to resist this dalliance of lying and obfuscation by omission by a man who's "been there done that," so to speak:

Former KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov Speaks About His Work: Disinformation and Deception Was My Job.
The mind bending techniques he describes are exactly how Obama and his army of Obots operate online today to spread disinformation using “social engineering” techniques taught by the Communist Party and their gurus like Saul Alinsky to confuse the unknowing masses about the true nature of Obama and his backers such as George Soros. Obama and his Obots are using the same techniques and their far left Cloward-Piven Strategy and agenda to complete their long-term plan to undermine and destroy our economic system and bring down our Constitutional Republic. Wake up Congress and America before it is too late! Launch a congressional investigation into the true legal identity of Obama and his numerous forged and stolen ID documents … immediately!
From: Obama is a Saul Alinsky-trained Disinformation Specialist

Sorry to share such a horrifying view, but here's the scoop from the horse's mouth, Ex-KGB Director, Yuri Bezmenov, who defected to teh USA some time ago:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g"]Yuri Bezmenov: Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society (Complete) - YouTube[/ame]



​

 

[freedombecki]

nycarbineer

Thanks, nycarbineer for making PoliticalChic's case by actually obfuscating the thread topic which is all about Obama's obfuscation in particular.

 

[freedombecki]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

1. How very nice to see you praying on Sunday morning.
Amen.


2. Possibly. in submission to religious fervor, you overlooked the very OP to which you were, ostensibly, responding...

...as you didn't either address the OP, nor rebut same.....

...you are subscribing to its import?

Well, then, ...

....another 'Amen!'

Good to see learning finally taking hold.

So you noticed the change of subject too while I was researching.

Some on the left would rather not think about it.

Others are becoming righties when they realize the level of omissions rising to the level of blatant obfuscation.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

1. How very nice to see you praying on Sunday morning.
Amen.


2. Possibly. in submission to religious fervor, you overlooked the very OP to which you were, ostensibly, responding...

...as you didn't either address the OP, nor rebut same.....

...you are subscribing to its import?


Well, then, ...

....another 'Amen!'



Good to see learning finally taking hold.

Since you can't refute what I said, which demolishes every claim and premise in your OP,

you're going to claim I'm changing the subject?

Democrats who opposed civil rights in the 50's and 60's were CONSERVATIVES, period.

If you can name any CONSERVATIVE Democrats in the current Congress, or the current administration,

who are sympathetic to, or in any way support, the past sentiments and positions of the Democrats in the Conservative Coalition of 50 or so years ago,

by all means,

NAME THEM.

I'm going to guess that your list will be very very close to zero.

Prove me wrong.

 

[NYcarbineer]

nycarbineer

Thanks, nycarbineer for making PoliticalChic's case by actually obfuscating the thread topic which is all about Obama's obfuscation in particular.

Can you name any current Democrats who support Barry Goldwater's past position that on the issue of race,

state's rights should trump civil rights? That our Constitution does not have jurisdiction over the protection of equal rights among races?

Because that was Goldwater's position. Name any current Democrats that agree with him.

 

[California Girl]

We will never solve the horrific issue of racism until we all stop using it as a political weapon to beat the opposition. True story.

Choose which is more important. Your party or your county. Not rocket science.

 

[freedombecki]

nycarbineer

Thanks, nycarbineer for making PoliticalChic's case by actually obfuscating the thread topic which is all about Obama's obfuscation in particular.

Can you name any current Democrats who support Barry Goldwater's past position that on the issue of race,

state's rights should trump civil rights? That our Constitution does not have jurisdiction over the protection of equal rights among races?

Because that was Goldwater's position. Name any current Democrats that agree with him.

You're obfuscating.

This thread is not about Barry Goldwater, it's about your current party's "Omission: Political 'Brainwashing'"

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

Speaking of trying to control the dissemination of information, I notice that you conveniently omitted from your argument above the list of

NON-signatories to the Manifesto. So I'll fix that for you:

Non-Signatories:

Albert Gore, Sr. (D-Tennessee)[1]
Estes Kefauver (D-Tennessee)[1]
Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas)[1]
United States House of Representatives (in state order)

Alabama:

George W. Andrews (D)
Frank W. Boykin (D)
Carl Elliott (D)
George M. Grant (D)
George Huddleston, Jr. (D)
Robert E. Jones, Jr. (D)
Albert Rains (D)
Kenneth A. Roberts (D)
Armistead Selden (D)
Arkansas:

Ezekiel C. Gathings (D)
Oren Harris (D)
Brooks Hays (D)[1]
Wilbur D. Mills (D)
William F. Norrell (D)
James William Trimble (D)
Florida:

Charles Edward Bennett (D)
James A. Haley (D)
Albert Herlong, Jr. (D)
D.R. "Billy" Matthews (D)
Paul G. Rogers (D)
Robert L. F. Sikes (D)
Non-Signatories:

Dante Fascell (D)
Georgia:

Iris F. Blitch (D)
Paul Brown (D)
James C. Davis (D)
John James Flynt, Jr. (D)
Tic Forrester (D)
Phil M. Landrum (D)
Henderson Lanham (D)
J. L. Pilcher (D)
Prince H. Preston (D)
Carl Vinson (D)
Louisiana:

Hale Boggs (D)
Overton Brooks (D)
F. Edward Hebert (D)
George S. Long (D)
James H. Morrison (D)
Otto E. Passman (D)
T. Ashton Thompson (D)
Edwin E. Willis (D)
Mississippi:

Thomas G. Abernethy (D)
William M. Colmer (D)
Frank E. Smith (D)
Jamie L. Whitten (D)
John Bell Williams (D)
Arthur Winstead (D)
North Carolina:

Hugh Q. Alexander (D)
Graham A. Barden (D)
Herbert C. Bonner (D)
Frank Carlyle (D)
Carl Durham (D)
Lawrence Fountain (D)
Woodrow W. Jones (D)
George A. Shuford (D)
Non-Signatories:

Richard Chatham (D)
Harold D. Cooley (D)
Charles Deane (D)
South Carolina:

Robert T. Ashmore (D)
W.J. Bryan Dorn (D)
John L. McMillan (D)
James P. Richards (D)
John J. Riley (D)
L. Mendel Rivers (D)
Tennessee:

Jere Cooper (D)
Clifford Davis (D)
James B. Frazier, Jr. (D)
Tom J. Murray (D)
Non-Signatories:

Howard Baker, Sr. (R)
Ross Bass (D)
Joe Evins (D)
Percy Priest (D)
B. Carroll Reece (R)
Texas:

Wright Patman (D) [1]
John Dowdy (D)
Walter Rogers (D)
O. C. Fisher (D) [1]
Martin Dies, Jr. (D) [1]
Non-Signatories:

Jack Brooks (D) [1]
Brady Gentry (D)
Sam Rayburn (D) [1]
Bruce Alger (R) [1]
Olin E. Teague (D) [1]
Albert Thomas (D) [1]
Clark W. Thompson (D)
Homer Thornberry (D) [1]
William Poage (D) [1]
Jim Wright (D) [1]
Frank Ikard (D) [1]
John J. Bell (D)
Joe Madison Kilgore (D) [1]
J. T. Rutherford (D)
Omar Burleson (D) [1]
George H. Mahon (D) [1]
Paul Kilday (D)
Virginia:

Edward J. Robeson, Jr. (D)
Porter Hardy (D)
J. Vaughan Gary (D)
Watkins M. Abbitt (D)
William M. Tuck (D)
Richard Harding Poff (R)
Burr Harrison (D)
Howard W. Smith (D)
William Pat Jennings (D)
Joel T. Broyhill (R)

and, to borrow your observation...note the party of almost all of the NON-signatories.

 

[freedombecki]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

1. How very nice to see you praying on Sunday morning.
Amen.


2. Possibly. in submission to religious fervor, you overlooked the very OP to which you were, ostensibly, responding...

...as you didn't either address the OP, nor rebut same.....

...you are subscribing to its import?


Well, then, ...

....another 'Amen!'



Good to see learning finally taking hold.

Since you can't refute what I said, which demolishes every claim and premise in your OP,

you're going to claim I'm changing the subject?

Democrats who opposed civil rights in the 50's and 60's were CONSERVATIVES, period.

If you can name any CONSERVATIVE Democrats in the current Congress, or the current administration,

who are sympathetic to, or in any way support, the past sentiments and positions of the Democrats in the Conservative Coalition of 50 or so years ago,

by all means,

NAME THEM.

I'm going to guess that your list will be very very close to zero.

Prove me wrong.

You are still:

Get back to owning your own wrong of omissions. No whining.

 

[NYcarbineer]

nycarbineer

Thanks, nycarbineer for making PoliticalChic's case by actually obfuscating the thread topic which is all about Obama's obfuscation in particular.

Can you name any current Democrats who support Barry Goldwater's past position that on the issue of race,

state's rights should trump civil rights? That our Constitution does not have jurisdiction over the protection of equal rights among races?

Because that was Goldwater's position. Name any current Democrats that agree with him.

You're obfuscating.

No, I'm comprehensively refuting the nonsenical claim of the OP that if there were conservative Democrats 50 or 60 years ago that opposed federal civil rights legislation and other actions on behalf of civil rights,

then that must somehow transfer to the modern Democratic Party.

So back to the question. Name them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[You are still:

Get back to owning your own wrong of omissions. No whining.

Then you tell me, in no more than two concise sentences, what you think the point is that the OP is trying to make.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Dems are the Josef Goebbels Party: they've been repeating their Civil Rights Lies so long that they believe it

 

[NYcarbineer]

[You're obfuscating.

This thread is not about Barry Goldwater, it's about your current party's "Omission: Political 'Brainwashing'"

This is what the thread is about, quoting verbatim:

The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.

The thread is an attempt to claim that the current Democratic Party is the party of slavery and segregation based on the fallacious argument that if people who called themselves Democrats 100 years ago,

or 50 years ago, or anytime in the past, were racists and segregationists,

then anyone who is part of the CURRENT Democratic Party must be guilty of the same.

At a simpler level,

if your grandfather was a racist, then you must be a racist, and you have no right to claim otherwise.

Do you believe those claims?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...-of-lbj-and-race-goebbles-would-be-proud.html

 

[PoliticalChic]

Oh sweet jesus on the cross, here we go again...

...this worn out canard, with, btw, its racist premise that black Americans are too stupid to realize that they're voting for - in 2012 - racist Democrats,

like Barack Obama.

Point #1 - The Conservative Coalition:

"...the conservative coalition was an unofficial Congressional coalition bringing together the conservative majority of the Republican Party and the conservative, mostly Southern, wing of the Democratic Party. It was dominant in Congress from 1937 to 1963 and remained a political force until the mid 1980s, eventually dying out in the 1990s...."

Read on here:

Conservative coalition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or let me sum it up for you. The anti-civil rights faction of the US that was a significant factor in politics in the early/mid 20th century was a

CONSERVATIVE faction,

made up of CONSERVATIVE Republicans and CONSERVATIVE Democrats.

The face of racism was in that era the face of CONSERVATISM, and that CONSERVATISM existed in both parties;

that's why they called it a coalition.

And take note of the last lines in the link:

"With the "Reagan Revolution" of the 1980s and the "Republican Revolution" in 1994, Republicans took control of most conservative Southern districts, replacing many conservative Democratic congressmen with Republicans. A few Congressmen switched parties. Thus the Southern Democratic element of the conservative coalition gradually faded."

We'll see if anyone is obstinate enough to need more than point 1.

1. How very nice to see you praying on Sunday morning.
Amen.


2. Possibly. in submission to religious fervor, you overlooked the very OP to which you were, ostensibly, responding...

...as you didn't either address the OP, nor rebut same.....

...you are subscribing to its import?


Well, then, ...

....another 'Amen!'



Good to see learning finally taking hold.

Since you can't refute what I said, which demolishes every claim and premise in your OP,

you're going to claim I'm changing the subject?

Democrats who opposed civil rights in the 50's and 60's were CONSERVATIVES, period.

If you can name any CONSERVATIVE Democrats in the current Congress, or the current administration,

who are sympathetic to, or in any way support, the past sentiments and positions of the Democrats in the Conservative Coalition of 50 or so years ago,

by all means,

NAME THEM.

I'm going to guess that your list will be very very close to zero.

Prove me wrong.

1. Easy.

You use terms like 'conservative' as though you know the meaning of the term....

Conservative has nothing to do with racism.
Conservative is the belief in the rights of the individual...while Liberal/Progressive/Democrat is the belief in the primacy of government.
Racism was accomplished via the power of government throughout the South, including the century of Liberal/Progressive/Democrat supremacy after the Civil War.

Reminder: the Democrats are the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.


2. "Democrats who opposed civil rights in the 50's and 60's were CONSERVATIVES, period."

a. The so-called “Dixiecrats” remained Democrats and did not migrate to the Republican Party. The Dixiecrats were a group of Southern Democrats who, in the 1948 national election, formed a third party, the State’s Rights Democratic Party with the slogan: “Segregation Forever!” Even so, they continued to be Democrats for all local and state elections, as well as for all future national elections.
Frequently Asked Questions | National Black Republican Association

b. "...period."
Closing the argument?
Gee....I wonder why Liberal/Progressive/Democrats are so fearful of the voice of opposition...

It means that you know you are not prepared for the truth.

Isn't that so?
Ready to admit?

 

[PoliticalChic]

nycarbineer

Thanks, nycarbineer for making PoliticalChic's case by actually obfuscating the thread topic which is all about Obama's obfuscation in particular.

Can you name any current Democrats who support Barry Goldwater's past position that on the issue of race,

state's rights should trump civil rights? That our Constitution does not have jurisdiction over the protection of equal rights among races?

Because that was Goldwater's position. Name any current Democrats that agree with him.

By the 1960's, the effects of Republican civil rights policies had allowed enough blacks to vote in the South, that Democrats realized that they had to court that vote.



The factors that allow you to believe the bogus mythos of Republican racism are:

a. the propaganda of the media indicated in the OP

b. the schools which are a subsidiary of the Democrat/Liberal establishment.

c. your ignorance, and lack of resistance to being mislead.




But...note the percentages of Democrats who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act...even though it was brought forward by LBJ!

The Senate vote was 69% of Democrats voted 'yea,' while 82% of Republicans voted for it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

Speaking of trying to control the dissemination of information, I notice that you conveniently omitted from your argument above the list of

NON-signatories to the Manifesto. So I'll fix that for you:

Non-Signatories:

Albert Gore, Sr. (D-Tennessee)[1]
Estes Kefauver (D-Tennessee)[1]
Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas)[1]
United States House of Representatives (in state order)

Alabama:

George W. Andrews (D)
Frank W. Boykin (D)
Carl Elliott (D)
George M. Grant (D)
George Huddleston, Jr. (D)
Robert E. Jones, Jr. (D)
Albert Rains (D)
Kenneth A. Roberts (D)
Armistead Selden (D)
Arkansas:

Ezekiel C. Gathings (D)
Oren Harris (D)
Brooks Hays (D)[1]
Wilbur D. Mills (D)
William F. Norrell (D)
James William Trimble (D)
Florida:

Charles Edward Bennett (D)
James A. Haley (D)
Albert Herlong, Jr. (D)
D.R. "Billy" Matthews (D)
Paul G. Rogers (D)
Robert L. F. Sikes (D)
Non-Signatories:

Dante Fascell (D)
Georgia:

Iris F. Blitch (D)
Paul Brown (D)
James C. Davis (D)
John James Flynt, Jr. (D)
Tic Forrester (D)
Phil M. Landrum (D)
Henderson Lanham (D)
J. L. Pilcher (D)
Prince H. Preston (D)
Carl Vinson (D)
Louisiana:

Hale Boggs (D)
Overton Brooks (D)
F. Edward Hebert (D)
George S. Long (D)
James H. Morrison (D)
Otto E. Passman (D)
T. Ashton Thompson (D)
Edwin E. Willis (D)
Mississippi:

Thomas G. Abernethy (D)
William M. Colmer (D)
Frank E. Smith (D)
Jamie L. Whitten (D)
John Bell Williams (D)
Arthur Winstead (D)
North Carolina:

Hugh Q. Alexander (D)
Graham A. Barden (D)
Herbert C. Bonner (D)
Frank Carlyle (D)
Carl Durham (D)
Lawrence Fountain (D)
Woodrow W. Jones (D)
George A. Shuford (D)
Non-Signatories:

Richard Chatham (D)
Harold D. Cooley (D)
Charles Deane (D)
South Carolina:

Robert T. Ashmore (D)
W.J. Bryan Dorn (D)
John L. McMillan (D)
James P. Richards (D)
John J. Riley (D)
L. Mendel Rivers (D)
Tennessee:

Jere Cooper (D)
Clifford Davis (D)
James B. Frazier, Jr. (D)
Tom J. Murray (D)
Non-Signatories:

Howard Baker, Sr. (R)
Ross Bass (D)
Joe Evins (D)
Percy Priest (D)
B. Carroll Reece (R)
Texas:

Wright Patman (D) [1]
John Dowdy (D)
Walter Rogers (D)
O. C. Fisher (D) [1]
Martin Dies, Jr. (D) [1]
Non-Signatories:

Jack Brooks (D) [1]
Brady Gentry (D)
Sam Rayburn (D) [1]
Bruce Alger (R) [1]
Olin E. Teague (D) [1]
Albert Thomas (D) [1]
Clark W. Thompson (D)
Homer Thornberry (D) [1]
William Poage (D) [1]
Jim Wright (D) [1]
Frank Ikard (D) [1]
John J. Bell (D)
Joe Madison Kilgore (D) [1]
J. T. Rutherford (D)
Omar Burleson (D) [1]
George H. Mahon (D) [1]
Paul Kilday (D)
Virginia:

Edward J. Robeson, Jr. (D)
Porter Hardy (D)
J. Vaughan Gary (D)
Watkins M. Abbitt (D)
William M. Tuck (D)
Richard Harding Poff (R)
Burr Harrison (D)
Howard W. Smith (D)
William Pat Jennings (D)
Joel T. Broyhill (R)

and, to borrow your observation...note the party of almost all of the NON-signatories.

Watch carefully and try to learn:

Is it your contention that I claimed that all Democrats voted for the Manifesto?


I did not.

Thus ends the idea that your post has any relevance.



To review: The Democrat Party is the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.....


....and that is the reason that it is significant that almost every signatory of the Southern Manifesto was......


......a Democrat.



Try again?