Omission: Political 'Brainwashing'

[PoliticalChic]

Can you name any current Democrats who support Barry Goldwater's past position that on the issue of race,

state's rights should trump civil rights? That our Constitution does not have jurisdiction over the protection of equal rights among races?

Because that was Goldwater's position. Name any current Democrats that agree with him.

You're obfuscating.

No, I'm comprehensively refuting the nonsenical claim of the OP that if there were conservative Democrats 50 or 60 years ago that opposed federal civil rights legislation and other actions on behalf of civil rights,

then that must somehow transfer to the modern Democratic Party.

So back to the question. Name them.

The only thing that you are "comprehensively refuting" is that

a. you have an education

b. you cerebrum is even approaching the size of a Lithium battery

and

c. the idea that you are other than a mind-numbed parrot of Liberal/Democrat propaganda.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

Speaking of trying to control the dissemination of information, I notice that you conveniently omitted from your argument above the list of

NON-signatories to the Manifesto. So I'll fix that for you:

Non-Signatories:

Albert Gore, Sr. (D-Tennessee)[1]
Estes Kefauver (D-Tennessee)[1]
Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas)[1]
United States House of Representatives (in state order)

Alabama:

George W. Andrews (D)
Frank W. Boykin (D)
Carl Elliott (D)
George M. Grant (D)
George Huddleston, Jr. (D)
Robert E. Jones, Jr. (D)
Albert Rains (D)
Kenneth A. Roberts (D)
Armistead Selden (D)
Arkansas:

Ezekiel C. Gathings (D)
Oren Harris (D)
Brooks Hays (D)[1]
Wilbur D. Mills (D)
William F. Norrell (D)
James William Trimble (D)
Florida:

Charles Edward Bennett (D)
James A. Haley (D)
Albert Herlong, Jr. (D)
D.R. "Billy" Matthews (D)
Paul G. Rogers (D)
Robert L. F. Sikes (D)
Non-Signatories:

Dante Fascell (D)
Georgia:

Iris F. Blitch (D)
Paul Brown (D)
James C. Davis (D)
John James Flynt, Jr. (D)
Tic Forrester (D)
Phil M. Landrum (D)
Henderson Lanham (D)
J. L. Pilcher (D)
Prince H. Preston (D)
Carl Vinson (D)
Louisiana:

Hale Boggs (D)
Overton Brooks (D)
F. Edward Hebert (D)
George S. Long (D)
James H. Morrison (D)
Otto E. Passman (D)
T. Ashton Thompson (D)
Edwin E. Willis (D)
Mississippi:

Thomas G. Abernethy (D)
William M. Colmer (D)
Frank E. Smith (D)
Jamie L. Whitten (D)
John Bell Williams (D)
Arthur Winstead (D)
North Carolina:

Hugh Q. Alexander (D)
Graham A. Barden (D)
Herbert C. Bonner (D)
Frank Carlyle (D)
Carl Durham (D)
Lawrence Fountain (D)
Woodrow W. Jones (D)
George A. Shuford (D)
Non-Signatories:

Richard Chatham (D)
Harold D. Cooley (D)
Charles Deane (D)
South Carolina:

Robert T. Ashmore (D)
W.J. Bryan Dorn (D)
John L. McMillan (D)
James P. Richards (D)
John J. Riley (D)
L. Mendel Rivers (D)
Tennessee:

Jere Cooper (D)
Clifford Davis (D)
James B. Frazier, Jr. (D)
Tom J. Murray (D)
Non-Signatories:

Howard Baker, Sr. (R)
Ross Bass (D)
Joe Evins (D)
Percy Priest (D)
B. Carroll Reece (R)
Texas:

Wright Patman (D) [1]
John Dowdy (D)
Walter Rogers (D)
O. C. Fisher (D) [1]
Martin Dies, Jr. (D) [1]
Non-Signatories:

Jack Brooks (D) [1]
Brady Gentry (D)
Sam Rayburn (D) [1]
Bruce Alger (R) [1]
Olin E. Teague (D) [1]
Albert Thomas (D) [1]
Clark W. Thompson (D)
Homer Thornberry (D) [1]
William Poage (D) [1]
Jim Wright (D) [1]
Frank Ikard (D) [1]
John J. Bell (D)
Joe Madison Kilgore (D) [1]
J. T. Rutherford (D)
Omar Burleson (D) [1]
George H. Mahon (D) [1]
Paul Kilday (D)
Virginia:

Edward J. Robeson, Jr. (D)
Porter Hardy (D)
J. Vaughan Gary (D)
Watkins M. Abbitt (D)
William M. Tuck (D)
Richard Harding Poff (R)
Burr Harrison (D)
Howard W. Smith (D)
William Pat Jennings (D)
Joel T. Broyhill (R)

and, to borrow your observation...note the party of almost all of the NON-signatories.

Watch carefully and try to learn:

Is it your contention that I claimed that all Democrats voted for the Manifesto?


I did not.

Thus ends the idea that your post has any relevance.



To review: The Democrat Party is the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.....


....and that is the reason that it is significant that almost every signatory of the Southern Manifesto was......


......a Democrat.



Try again?

1. No, I claimed that you omitted information from your post as a tactic for creating a false impression,

that is what is called a half-truth, and is a common propaganda tactic.

2. You also made the absurdly fallacious claim that the Democratic party of today is comparable to the southern, segregationist, conservative wing of the Democratic Party of half a century ago.

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

Speaking of trying to control the dissemination of information, I notice that you conveniently omitted from your argument above the list of

NON-signatories to the Manifesto. So I'll fix that for you:

Non-Signatories:

Albert Gore, Sr. (D-Tennessee)[1]
Estes Kefauver (D-Tennessee)[1]
Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas)[1]
United States House of Representatives (in state order)

Alabama:

George W. Andrews (D)
Frank W. Boykin (D)
Carl Elliott (D)
George M. Grant (D)
George Huddleston, Jr. (D)
Robert E. Jones, Jr. (D)
Albert Rains (D)
Kenneth A. Roberts (D)
Armistead Selden (D)
Arkansas:

Ezekiel C. Gathings (D)
Oren Harris (D)
Brooks Hays (D)[1]
Wilbur D. Mills (D)
William F. Norrell (D)
James William Trimble (D)
Florida:

Charles Edward Bennett (D)
James A. Haley (D)
Albert Herlong, Jr. (D)
D.R. "Billy" Matthews (D)
Paul G. Rogers (D)
Robert L. F. Sikes (D)
Non-Signatories:

Dante Fascell (D)
Georgia:

Iris F. Blitch (D)
Paul Brown (D)
James C. Davis (D)
John James Flynt, Jr. (D)
Tic Forrester (D)
Phil M. Landrum (D)
Henderson Lanham (D)
J. L. Pilcher (D)
Prince H. Preston (D)
Carl Vinson (D)
Louisiana:

Hale Boggs (D)
Overton Brooks (D)
F. Edward Hebert (D)
George S. Long (D)
James H. Morrison (D)
Otto E. Passman (D)
T. Ashton Thompson (D)
Edwin E. Willis (D)
Mississippi:

Thomas G. Abernethy (D)
William M. Colmer (D)
Frank E. Smith (D)
Jamie L. Whitten (D)
John Bell Williams (D)
Arthur Winstead (D)
North Carolina:

Hugh Q. Alexander (D)
Graham A. Barden (D)
Herbert C. Bonner (D)
Frank Carlyle (D)
Carl Durham (D)
Lawrence Fountain (D)
Woodrow W. Jones (D)
George A. Shuford (D)
Non-Signatories:

Richard Chatham (D)
Harold D. Cooley (D)
Charles Deane (D)
South Carolina:

Robert T. Ashmore (D)
W.J. Bryan Dorn (D)
John L. McMillan (D)
James P. Richards (D)
John J. Riley (D)
L. Mendel Rivers (D)
Tennessee:

Jere Cooper (D)
Clifford Davis (D)
James B. Frazier, Jr. (D)
Tom J. Murray (D)
Non-Signatories:

Howard Baker, Sr. (R)
Ross Bass (D)
Joe Evins (D)
Percy Priest (D)
B. Carroll Reece (R)
Texas:

Wright Patman (D) [1]
John Dowdy (D)
Walter Rogers (D)
O. C. Fisher (D) [1]
Martin Dies, Jr. (D) [1]
Non-Signatories:

Jack Brooks (D) [1]
Brady Gentry (D)
Sam Rayburn (D) [1]
Bruce Alger (R) [1]
Olin E. Teague (D) [1]
Albert Thomas (D) [1]
Clark W. Thompson (D)
Homer Thornberry (D) [1]
William Poage (D) [1]
Jim Wright (D) [1]
Frank Ikard (D) [1]
John J. Bell (D)
Joe Madison Kilgore (D) [1]
J. T. Rutherford (D)
Omar Burleson (D) [1]
George H. Mahon (D) [1]
Paul Kilday (D)
Virginia:

Edward J. Robeson, Jr. (D)
Porter Hardy (D)
J. Vaughan Gary (D)
Watkins M. Abbitt (D)
William M. Tuck (D)
Richard Harding Poff (R)
Burr Harrison (D)
Howard W. Smith (D)
William Pat Jennings (D)
Joel T. Broyhill (R)

and, to borrow your observation...note the party of almost all of the NON-signatories.

Watch carefully and try to learn:

Is it your contention that I claimed that all Democrats voted for the Manifesto?


I did not.

Thus ends the idea that your post has any relevance.



To review: The Democrat Party is the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.....


....and that is the reason that it is significant that almost every signatory of the Southern Manifesto was......


......a Democrat.



Try again?

You committed the very crime of 'omission' that was the theme of your thread.

That would be irony.

 

[NYcarbineer]

[
1. Easy.

You use terms like 'conservative' as though you know the meaning of the term....

Conservative has nothing to do with racism.
Conservative is the belief in the rights of the individual...while Liberal/Progressive/Democrat is the belief in the primacy of government.
Racism was accomplished via the power of government throughout the South, including the century of Liberal/Progressive/Democrat supremacy after the Civil War.

Reminder: the Democrats are the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.


2. "Democrats who opposed civil rights in the 50's and 60's were CONSERVATIVES, period."

a. The so-called “Dixiecrats” remained Democrats and did not migrate to the Republican Party. The Dixiecrats were a group of Southern Democrats who, in the 1948 national election, formed a third party, the State’s Rights Democratic Party with the slogan: “Segregation Forever!” Even so, they continued to be Democrats for all local and state elections, as well as for all future national elections.
Frequently Asked Questions | National Black Republican Association

b. "...period."
Closing the argument?
Gee....I wonder why Liberal/Progressive/Democrats are so fearful of the voice of opposition...

It means that you know you are not prepared for the truth.

Isn't that so?
Ready to admit?

The Conservative Coalition called ITSELF the Conservative Coalition. The Democrats in that coalition, and the Southern segregationist Democrats in general,

SELF-IDENTIFIED as conservatives. They were not labeled, or mis-labeled, by anyone else. They were self-described, self-identified, conservatives, and,

they were racists. Even you have called them racists.

Now,

please name me as many current day Democrats as you can think of that you believe would

1) sign the Manifesto

2) vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The reason for the question is simple. You claimed the Democrat Party IS the party of racism, slavery, segregation...

not 'was' or 'once included some who were',

you said 'IS'.

If you want me to help you with what the meaning of 'is' is in this case, say so.

 

[PoliticalChic]

[You're obfuscating.

This thread is not about Barry Goldwater, it's about your current party's "Omission: Political 'Brainwashing'"

This is what the thread is about, quoting verbatim:

The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.

The thread is an attempt to claim that the current Democratic Party is the party of slavery and segregation based on the fallacious argument that if people who called themselves Democrats 100 years ago,

or 50 years ago, or anytime in the past, were racists and segregationists,

then anyone who is part of the CURRENT Democratic Party must be guilty of the same.

At a simpler level,

if your grandfather was a racist, then you must be a racist, and you have no right to claim otherwise.

Do you believe those claims?

1. "The thread is an attempt to claim that the current Democratic Party is the party of slavery and segregation based on the fallacious argument that if people who called themselves Democrats 100 years ago,

or 50 years ago, or anytime in the past, were racists and segregationists,

then anyone who is part of the CURRENT Democratic Party must be guilty of the same."


Actually, that is not true. What I am claiming is that what you suggest...."Democrats 100 years ago,
or 50 years ago, or anytime in the past, were racists and segregationists,"...
I am not claiming that all current Democrats are same.

But....I am using the above to show why it is so very important to cloud that history by defaming those who actually fought slavery and racist: the Republicans.



2. Now, "Democrats 100 years ago, or 50 years ago..." doesn't seem fair...it was so long ago....


Was it?

a. Dixiecrats lost in 1948 (64 years ago)....then went right back to being Democrats.

3. Let's take a look at the most popular Democrat today, and see how your math holds up...


a. Governor Clinton was among three state officials the NAACP sued in 1989 under the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965. “Plaintiffs offered plenty of proof of monolithic voting along racial lines, intimidation of black voters and candidates and other official acts that made voting harder for blacks,” the Arkansas Gazette reported December 6, 1989.

Gee....23 years ago....



b. Bill Clinton had a Confederate flag-like issue, every year he was governor: Arkansas Code Annotated, Section 1-5-107, provides as follows:

(a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as ‘Confederate Flag Day’ in this state.

(b) No person, firm, or corporation shall display an Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America. [Emphasis added.]

(c) Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).

Bill Clinton took no steps during his twelve years as governor to repeal this law.
Hillary Clinton's Confederacy Hypocrisy | The Gateway Pundit

Gee....'til 1992,....20 years ago

(BTW...Orval Eugene Faubus, attended Bill Clinton’s 1979 gubernatorial inauguration, where the two pols hugged, as Arkansas Democrat-Gazette editorial page editor Paul Greenberg recalls.)
Know who Faubus was?
Yup...he used the National Guard to prevent blacks from going to school



c. Bill Clinton wrote his first letter, dated June 21, 1994, of congratulations to the UDC [Untied Daughters of the Confederacy] celebrating their 100th anniversary. Later Clinton wrote a letter September 8, 1994 letter of congratulation to the Georgia Division of the UDC celebrating their 100th anniversary, then August 9, 1995 welcoming to Washington, D.C. for their 1995 national convention. Each letter was given a full page with Clinton’s picture in the United Daughters of the Confederacy Magazine (UDC Magazine) giving legitimacy to the UDC.

For reference, the UDC magazine includes " a Ku Klux Klan praising book, not just the Klan of Reconstruction but the Klan of the 1920s, a book which recommends the racist books of Thomas Dixon, “The Clansman” ...
Anti-Neo-Confederate: Bill Clinton Enables Neo-Confederates & Betrays Carol Moseley-Braun: UPDATED

Gee....that's 17 years ago....



d. "Clinton praised Arkansas’ late Democratic senator J. William Fulbright, a notorious segregationist who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. He also signed the Southern Manifesto, which denounced the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark Brown vs. Board of Education school desegregation decision in 1954. Clinton called Fulbright “My mentor, a visionary, a humanitarian.”Dems Need to Houseclean - Deroy Murdock - National Review Online

and....

Fulbright was a full-bore segregationist, voting against the 1957, 1960, 1964, and 1965 civil rights bills.
But...in 1993, Bill Clinton gave the Medal of Freedom award to a lifelong segregationist, Democrat Wm. J. Fulbright. And another life-long segregationist, Democrat Albert Gore, Sr. was in attendance.

19 years ago.


Hey...didn't Bill Clinton just recently speak at the Democrat National Convention?

That wasn't "50 or 100" years ago....was it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Speaking of trying to control the dissemination of information, I notice that you conveniently omitted from your argument above the list of

NON-signatories to the Manifesto. So I'll fix that for you:

Non-Signatories:

Albert Gore, Sr. (D-Tennessee)[1]
Estes Kefauver (D-Tennessee)[1]
Lyndon B. Johnson (D-Texas)[1]
United States House of Representatives (in state order)

Alabama:

George W. Andrews (D)
Frank W. Boykin (D)
Carl Elliott (D)
George M. Grant (D)
George Huddleston, Jr. (D)
Robert E. Jones, Jr. (D)
Albert Rains (D)
Kenneth A. Roberts (D)
Armistead Selden (D)
Arkansas:

Ezekiel C. Gathings (D)
Oren Harris (D)
Brooks Hays (D)[1]
Wilbur D. Mills (D)
William F. Norrell (D)
James William Trimble (D)
Florida:

Charles Edward Bennett (D)
James A. Haley (D)
Albert Herlong, Jr. (D)
D.R. "Billy" Matthews (D)
Paul G. Rogers (D)
Robert L. F. Sikes (D)
Non-Signatories:

Dante Fascell (D)
Georgia:

Iris F. Blitch (D)
Paul Brown (D)
James C. Davis (D)
John James Flynt, Jr. (D)
Tic Forrester (D)
Phil M. Landrum (D)
Henderson Lanham (D)
J. L. Pilcher (D)
Prince H. Preston (D)
Carl Vinson (D)
Louisiana:

Hale Boggs (D)
Overton Brooks (D)
F. Edward Hebert (D)
George S. Long (D)
James H. Morrison (D)
Otto E. Passman (D)
T. Ashton Thompson (D)
Edwin E. Willis (D)
Mississippi:

Thomas G. Abernethy (D)
William M. Colmer (D)
Frank E. Smith (D)
Jamie L. Whitten (D)
John Bell Williams (D)
Arthur Winstead (D)
North Carolina:

Hugh Q. Alexander (D)
Graham A. Barden (D)
Herbert C. Bonner (D)
Frank Carlyle (D)
Carl Durham (D)
Lawrence Fountain (D)
Woodrow W. Jones (D)
George A. Shuford (D)
Non-Signatories:

Richard Chatham (D)
Harold D. Cooley (D)
Charles Deane (D)
South Carolina:

Robert T. Ashmore (D)
W.J. Bryan Dorn (D)
John L. McMillan (D)
James P. Richards (D)
John J. Riley (D)
L. Mendel Rivers (D)
Tennessee:

Jere Cooper (D)
Clifford Davis (D)
James B. Frazier, Jr. (D)
Tom J. Murray (D)
Non-Signatories:

Howard Baker, Sr. (R)
Ross Bass (D)
Joe Evins (D)
Percy Priest (D)
B. Carroll Reece (R)
Texas:

Wright Patman (D) [1]
John Dowdy (D)
Walter Rogers (D)
O. C. Fisher (D) [1]
Martin Dies, Jr. (D) [1]
Non-Signatories:

Jack Brooks (D) [1]
Brady Gentry (D)
Sam Rayburn (D) [1]
Bruce Alger (R) [1]
Olin E. Teague (D) [1]
Albert Thomas (D) [1]
Clark W. Thompson (D)
Homer Thornberry (D) [1]
William Poage (D) [1]
Jim Wright (D) [1]
Frank Ikard (D) [1]
John J. Bell (D)
Joe Madison Kilgore (D) [1]
J. T. Rutherford (D)
Omar Burleson (D) [1]
George H. Mahon (D) [1]
Paul Kilday (D)
Virginia:

Edward J. Robeson, Jr. (D)
Porter Hardy (D)
J. Vaughan Gary (D)
Watkins M. Abbitt (D)
William M. Tuck (D)
Richard Harding Poff (R)
Burr Harrison (D)
Howard W. Smith (D)
William Pat Jennings (D)
Joel T. Broyhill (R)

and, to borrow your observation...note the party of almost all of the NON-signatories.

Watch carefully and try to learn:

Is it your contention that I claimed that all Democrats voted for the Manifesto?


I did not.

Thus ends the idea that your post has any relevance.



To review: The Democrat Party is the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.....


....and that is the reason that it is significant that almost every signatory of the Southern Manifesto was......


......a Democrat.



Try again?

You committed the very crime of 'omission' that was the theme of your thread.

That would be irony.

First of all,....I am not the media.

Second, I did no such thing.
I gave all the pertinent information.

In short, Democrats, racists.

Need me to give the name of their dentists, too?

 

[PoliticalChic]

[
1. Easy.

You use terms like 'conservative' as though you know the meaning of the term....

Conservative has nothing to do with racism.
Conservative is the belief in the rights of the individual...while Liberal/Progressive/Democrat is the belief in the primacy of government.
Racism was accomplished via the power of government throughout the South, including the century of Liberal/Progressive/Democrat supremacy after the Civil War.

Reminder: the Democrats are the party of slavery, segregation, sedition, and secularization.


2. "Democrats who opposed civil rights in the 50's and 60's were CONSERVATIVES, period."

a. The so-called “Dixiecrats” remained Democrats and did not migrate to the Republican Party. The Dixiecrats were a group of Southern Democrats who, in the 1948 national election, formed a third party, the State’s Rights Democratic Party with the slogan: “Segregation Forever!” Even so, they continued to be Democrats for all local and state elections, as well as for all future national elections.
Frequently Asked Questions | National Black Republican Association

b. "...period."
Closing the argument?
Gee....I wonder why Liberal/Progressive/Democrats are so fearful of the voice of opposition...

It means that you know you are not prepared for the truth.

Isn't that so?
Ready to admit?

The Conservative Coalition called ITSELF the Conservative Coalition. The Democrats in that coalition, and the Southern segregationist Democrats in general,

SELF-IDENTIFIED as conservatives. They were not labeled, or mis-labeled, by anyone else. They were self-described, self-identified, conservatives, and,

they were racists. Even you have called them racists.

Now,

please name me as many current day Democrats as you can think of that you believe would

1) sign the Manifesto

2) vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

The reason for the question is simple. You claimed the Democrat Party IS the party of racism, slavery, segregation...

not 'was' or 'once included some who were',

you said 'IS'.

If you want me to help you with what the meaning of 'is' is in this case, say so.

OK.....let's show who was 'conservative.'


a. The most important points: all the segregationists in the Senate were Democrats, and remained same for the rest of their lives…except for two. And they were not conservative.


b. Strom Thurmond became a Republican, albeit 16 years later. Lets see how many of the 12 in the Senate were conservative.
c. Senator Harry Byrd, staunch opponent of anti-communist McCarthy
d. Senator Robert Byrd, proabortion, opposed Gulf Wars, supported ERA, high grades from NARAL and ACLU
e. Senator Allen Ellender, McCarthy opponent, pacifist
f. Senator Sam Ervin, McCarthy opponent, anti-Vietnam War, Nixon antagonist
g. Senator Albert Gore, Sr., McCarthy opponent, anti-Vietnam War
h. Senator James Eastland, strong anti-communist
i. Senator Wm. Fulbright, McCarthy opponent, anti-Vietnam War, big UN supporter
j. Senator Walter F. George, supported TVA, and Great Society programs
k. Senator Ernest Hollings, initiated federal food stamp program, …but supported Clarence Thomas’ nomination
l. Senator Russell Long, led the campaign for Great Society programs
m. Senator Richard Russell, McCarthy opponent, anti-Vietnam War, supported FDR’s New Deal
n. Senator John Stennis, McCarthy opponent, opposed Robert Bork’s nomination


Notice how segregationist positions went hand-in-hand with opposition to McCarthy? Not all Democrats….Robert Kennedy worked for McCarthy, and Senator John F. Kenned refused to censure him.

 

[Salt Jones]

Let's cut to the chase:

1. Democrats were and are racist.

2. Republicans loved and saved blacks.

3. Both political parties have the same agendas they have had since 1863.

4. Blacks are dumb and need white people, be it Democrat or Republican, to look out for them. Since they are too stupid and easily manipulated to look out for their own best interests.

5. Republicans still love and want to save blacks, from themselves.

There- Now will that stop all these cut and paste threads?

 

[freedombecki]

[You're obfuscating.

This thread is not about Barry Goldwater, it's about your current party's "Omission: Political 'Brainwashing'"

This is what the thread is about, quoting verbatim:

The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.

The thread is an attempt to claim that the current Democratic Party is the party of slavery and segregation based on the fallacious argument that if people who called themselves Democrats 100 years ago,

or 50 years ago, or anytime in the past, were racists and segregationists,

then anyone who is part of the CURRENT Democratic Party must be guilty of the same.

At a simpler level,

if your grandfather was a racist, then you must be a racist, and you have no right to claim otherwise.

Do you believe those claims?

That is looney tunes. If Democrats voted to raise taxes in Obamacare and called it something else, is it therefore not the highest tax hike in history on the Middle Class?

Ask a stupid banana-brained question you could get a stupid answer.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Let's cut to the chase:

1. Democrats were and are racist.

2. Republicans loved and saved blacks.

3. Both political parties have the same agendas they have had since 1863.

4. Blacks are dumb and need white people, be it Democrat or Republican, to look out for them. Since they are too stupid and easily manipulated to look out for their own best interests.

5. Republicans still love and want to save blacks, from themselves.

There- Now will that stop all these cut and paste threads?

Based on how much you've learned from the factual material provided, you might as well stick to day-time TV.


Don't be afraid of losing your street cred.....



While you appear not to be susceptible to debate, logic, data, or even your own experience, I don't believe that you actually believe what you suggest, or the officeholders that you support.


Mamet, in 'The Secret Knowledge,' suggested a reason for your attitude:


The Left must bear a Sisyphean burden having to suspend reason and accountability, in order to rationalize the positions that they claim to espouse.

Yet our Liberal accepts doctrines, policies, programs, that make no sense, or are actually destructive, for the offer of acceptance of the herd…or the opposite, expulsion if one doesn’t support same.

It is not that our Liberals do not care about rectitude, but he cannot afford to notice the insanity. The size and power of the group allows the individual to submerge his doubts…but at the cost of obedience and the surrender his individuality.


Wadda you think, Faulty.....could be?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Seems like everyone is familiar with Republican Senator Goldwater’s vote against the 1964 Civil Rights Act…and some even know that he explained, as a constitutionalist, that the reason was the belief that the Congress had no right to mandate how individuals must use their private property…in other words, the limits of the commerce clause.

A few even know that Goldwater had a long history of fighting segregation and racism, including signing previous civil rights acts.

But…how many know about the Southern Manifesto?



1. "In 1956, 19 Senators and 77 members of the House of Representatives signed the "Southern Manifesto," a resolution condemning the 1954 Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. The resolution called the decision "a clear abuse of judicial power" and encouraged states to resist implementing its mandates. In response to Southern opposition, in 1958 the Court revisited the Brown decision in Cooper v. Aaron, asserting that the states were bound by the ruling and affirming that its interpretation of the Constitution was the "supreme law of the land."
Signed by:

Members of the United States Senate:

Alabama-John Sparkman and Lister Hill.

Arkansas-J. W. Fulbright and John L. McClellan.

Florida-George A. Smathers and Spessard L. Holland.

Georgia-Walter F. George and Richard B. Russell.

Louisiana-Allen J. Ellender and Russell B. Lono.

Mississippi-John Stennis and James O. Eastland.

North Carolina-Sam J. Ervin Jr. and W. Kerr Scott.

South Carolina-Strom Thurmon and Olin D. Johnston.

Texas-Price Daniel.

Virginia-Harry F. Bird and A. Willis Robertson. "
The Supreme Court . Expanding Civil Rights . Primary Sources | PBS


That was from PBS. "Public Broadcasting Service"? No...the Political Broadcasting Service....serving one particular party.


…did you notice the party of the signers? Wonder why not?
Anyone doubt that hiding the party of Democrats when related to slavery and segregation is a practiced art?

Look for the same behavior in most of the main stream media.



From NPR:

2. It is widely referred to as the Southern Manifesto advocating continued segregation. Nearly every leading member of Congress from the South signs it. But the organizers decide to exclude Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson and House Speaker Sam Rayburn, both of Texas, because they don't want the national party to be linked to their efforts. On This Day In 1956: 'Southern Manifesto' On Race Signed By 100 : It's All Politics : NPR


No wonder so many believe that it is the Republicans that are the party of racism....because that is the implication in many subtle and not so subtle ways.
Brainwashing by omission of important facts.

Here is what the original story should have looked like-

3. Signatories:
 John Sparkman (D-Alabama)
 Lister Hill (D-Alabama)
 William Fulbright (D-Arkansas)[1]
 John L. McClellan (D-Arkansas)
 George A. Smathers (D-Florida)
 Spessard Holland (D-Florida)
 Walter F. George (D-Georgia)
 Richard B. Russell (D-Georgia)
 Allen J. Ellender (D-Louisiana)
 Russell B. Long (D-Louisiana)
 James O. Eastland (D-Mississippi)
 John Stennis (D-Mississippi)
 Samuel Ervin (D-North Carolina)
 W. Kerr Scott (D-North Carolina)
 Strom Thurmond (D-South Carolina)[1]
 Olin D. Johnston (D-South Carolina)
 Price Daniel (D-Texas)
 Harry F. Byrd (D-Virginia) [1]
 A. Willis Robertson (D-Virginia)
 Southern Manifesto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The is the real benefit the Left accrues from controlling the dissemination of information.
And when asked why huge percentages of black Americans still vote for the party of slavery and segregation....the above is major reason.




3. BTW...

"Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Republican Senator Everett Dirksen authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act, and saw it through to passage. Republicans supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act overwhelmingly, and by much higher percentages in both House and Senate than the Democrats. Indeed, the 1964 Civil Rights Act became law only after overcoming a Democrat filibuster."
Everything I Know Is Wrong: History of the Republican Party

Democrat LBJ fought to remove the enforcement provisions of the Republican bills.

Thank you, PoliticalChic, for shedding light on this unfortunate obfuscation technique being employed all over by Democrats, eager to foist extreme views on America. We have been warned to resist this dalliance of lying and obfuscation by omission by a man who's "been there done that," so to speak:

Former KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov Speaks About His Work: Disinformation and Deception Was My Job.
The mind bending techniques he describes are exactly how Obama and his army of Obots operate online today to spread disinformation using “social engineering” techniques taught by the Communist Party and their gurus like Saul Alinsky to confuse the unknowing masses about the true nature of Obama and his backers such as George Soros. Obama and his Obots are using the same techniques and their far left Cloward-Piven Strategy and agenda to complete their long-term plan to undermine and destroy our economic system and bring down our Constitutional Republic. Wake up Congress and America before it is too late! Launch a congressional investigation into the true legal identity of Obama and his numerous forged and stolen ID documents … immediately!
From: Obama is a Saul Alinsky-trained Disinformation Specialist

Sorry to share such a horrifying view, but here's the scoop from the horse's mouth, Ex-KGB Director, Yuri Bezmenov, who defected to teh USA some time ago:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g"]Yuri Bezmenov: Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society (Complete) - YouTube[/ame]



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Becki....while not surprising that you know about Bezmenov....it is indicative.


Only those of us who have immersed ourselves in the study of politics, or maybe of history, would be familiar with this man.

I came across the name in Dr.Paul Kangor's book, "DUPES: How America's Adversaries Have Manipulated Progressives for a Century.”

Kangor writes about the individuals who were prepared to believe anything the Soviets said or showed them....

"In the early years after the Bolshevik Revolution, the communists used manipulations, such as the Potemkin Villages, to pursuade the world how admirable and successful the revolution had been. One technique was to invite prominent American and British leftists to take carefully planned tours. And these ‘Potemkin Progressives,’ for the most part, behaved and thought just as they were meant to."

He speaks of H.G.Wells, George Bernard Shaw, Walter Duranty, and John Dewey among others....

And he quotes Yuri Bezmenov, who recounted, 'no matter how outrageous the line of Soviet propaganda they fed them, they swallowed it!'

And that's just what this thread is about: revealing how outrageous Democrat/liberal propaganda has been....
...maybe some will realize what they've been fed.



We can provide this kind of information...and hope it sends some off to the library, or to Amazon....hope for the best.

The most informed will undoubtedly agree with us, becki.



Thanks for being here, becki.