OK, So if Obama's Release of Five Top Terrorists is Illegal and They Are Back in the Battlefield...

[JimBowie1958]

...then isnt that treason?

House GOP: Bergdahl Prisoner Swap Was Illegal

'Taliban Five' Resume ‘Threatening Activities’ Post-Bergdahl

 

[September]

No​

 

[aris2chat]

traitor, terrorist?

 

[Obiwan]

Haji Ghalib: The Afghan Freed From Guantánamo Who Is Now Fighting Islamic State And Taliban
Haji Ghalib: The Afghan Freed From Guantánamo Who Is Now Fighting Islamic State And Taliban – OpEd

When it comes to reports about prisoners released from Guantánamo, there has, since President Obama took office, been an aggressive black propaganda policy — firstly from within the Pentagon and latterly from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence — painting a false picture of the alleged rate of “recidivism” amongst former prisoners, a trend that has also been echoed in the mainstream media, which has repeatedly published whatever nonsense it has been told without questioning it, or asking for anything resembling proof from those government departments that are responsible. For some background, see my articles here, here, here andhere – and my appearance on Democracy Now! in January 2010.

The three outstanding problems with the supposed recidivism rate — beyond the lamentable truth that no information backing up the claims has been made publicly available since 2009, and that the media should therefore have been very wary of it — are, firstly, that lazy or cynical media outlets regular add up the numbers of former prisoners described as “confirmed” and “suspected” recidivists to reach an alarming grand total, which, in recent years, is over 25% of those released, when the numbers of those “suspected” of recidivism are based on unverified, single source reporting, and may very well be unreliable. Back in March 2012, for example, as I explained in my article, “Guantánamo and Recidivism: The Media’s Ongoing Failure to Question Official Statistics,” Pentagon spokesman Lt. Col. Todd Breasseale said, “Someone on the ‘suspected’ list could very possibly not be engaged in activities that are counter to our national security interests.” (emphasis added).

The second huge problem with the reports is that even the “confirmed” rate is, very evidently, exaggerated, as it is, to be blunt, inconceivable that as many former prisoners as alleged can have been engaged in military or terrorist activities against the US. In the latest DNI report, for example, made available in September 2015, it is claimed that 117 former prisoners (17.9% of those released) are “Confirmed of Reengaging,” but no indication is given of how that can be possible. Claims can certainly be made for a few dozen “recidivists” — primarily in Afghanistan, and amongst those few former Gulf prisoners who apparently set up an Al-Qaeda offshoot in Yemen — but the figure of 117 is simply implausible.

A third important reason for disputing the claims, as noted by the Constitution Project, is that the overwhelming majority of those allegedly “Confirmed of Reengaging” — 111 of the 117 — were released under President Bush, and only six men released by President Obama — just 4.9% of those released on his watch — are regarded as being recidivists; in other words, the current threat is just 4.9%, and as a result, as the Constitution Project explained, “95.1% of detainees transferred during the Obama presidency have not reengaged.”

In the New York Times at the weekend, another more positive take on the reporting about former prisoners took place with the publication of an article about Haji Ghalib (aka Hajji Ghalib), an Afghan former prisoner, who, since his release in 2007, has become a formidable opponent not just of the Taliban, but also of efforts by Isis fighters to make inroads into Afghanistan.

Ghalib, it should be noted, is one of several dozen Afghan prisoners I identified in my research for my bookThe Guantánamo Files as having worked with US forces, but who ended up at Guantánamo because of rivalries with other Afghans, who took advantage of the Americans’ generally woeful intelligence, and their inability or unwillingness to cross-reference information about prisoners, to get their rivals banished to the US prison in Cuba. See the front-page story I wrote for the New York Times with Carlotta Gall, in February 2008, about Abdul Razzaq Hekmati, a heroic opponent of the Taliban, whose appeals for verification of his story were repeatedly ignored. Hekmati died of cancer at Guantánamo in December 2007, but the Bush administration never acknowledged its mistake.

 

[JimBowie1958]

No​

Why not, I mean other than you self delusion and ignorance?

 

[JimBowie1958]

traitor, terrorist?

Traitor, not terrorist, cant place him above a terrorist sympathizer at the moment.

 

[aris2chat]

traitor, terrorist?

Traitor, not terrorist, cant place him above a terrorist sympathizer at the moment.

Accomplice, beyond just supporter. He acted to bypass congress to release the five.

 

[nuhuh]

What about the more than 500 Gitmo prisoners George W. Bush released? Can we try him at the Hague first? More than 500 Guantanamo detainees were released or transferred under Bush

 

[blackhawk]

The release of these five being illegal is questionable them going back to battlefield was predictable.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

No​

Why is it not?

 

[DarkFury]

What about the more than 500 Gitmo prisoners George W. Bush released? Can we try him at the Hague first? More than 500 Guantanamo detainees were released or transferred under Bush

Try and get CURRENT okay stupid?

 

[aris2chat]

It was 532, and the supreme court didn't give him an option.

http://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-why-bush-lost-gitmo-detainees-91421

 

[JimBowie1958]

What about the more than 500 Gitmo prisoners George W. Bush released? Can we try him at the Hague first? More than 500 Guantanamo detainees were released or transferred under Bush

"IT'S BUSHES FAULT!!!!! AND YOU'RE A RACIST!!!!!!!"

When the fuck are Democrats going to take responsibility and stop blaming Bush fore EVERY god damned thing? IT has been nearly SEVEN FUCKING YEARS since Bush was in office; cant your Fearless Leader fix a damned thing yet?

 

[JimBowie1958]

No​

Why is it not?

Thats funny, You asked Ashtara the Loon Goddess to answer a question. I think you will have to wait till she returns from the aetheral plane....

 

[JimBowie1958]

The release of these five being illegal is questionable them going back to battlefield was predictable.

Well according to the GOP it was an illegal act, as the Obamy regime is supposed to notify them of any release of terrorist prisoners.

But if one gauges the value of their claims by the immediacy of their actions, this is nothing more than election bullshit.

Damn, wouldnt it be peachy keen if we had in our democratic system just ONE PARTY THAT REPRESENTED THE AMERICAN MIDDLE CLASS?

 

[nuhuh]

What about the more than 500 Gitmo prisoners George W. Bush released? Can we try him at the Hague first? More than 500 Guantanamo detainees were released or transferred under Bush

"IT'S BUSHES FAULT!!!!! AND YOU'RE A RACIST!!!!!!!"

When the fuck are Democrats going to take responsibility and stop blaming Bush fore EVERY god damned thing? IT has been nearly SEVEN FUCKING YEARS since Bush was in office; cant your Fearless Leader fix a damned thing yet?

Because dummfuk, as far as anyone knows those 500+ terrorists are still out there creating havoc.

Yes, It's Bush's Fault!!! and you're a Bed Wetter

 

[Hossfly]

What about the more than 500 Gitmo prisoners George W. Bush released? Can we try him at the Hague first? More than 500 Guantanamo detainees were released or transferred under Bush

"IT'S BUSHES FAULT!!!!! AND YOU'RE A RACIST!!!!!!!"

When the fuck are Democrats going to take responsibility and stop blaming Bush fore EVERY god damned thing? IT has been nearly SEVEN FUCKING YEARS since Bush was in office; cant your Fearless Leader fix a damned thing yet?

Because dummfuk, as far as anyone knows those 500+ terrorists are still out there creating havoc.

Yes, It's Bush's Fault!!! and you're a Bed Wetter

Good news, Tinkerbell! After this year you can start blaming Trump and let Dubya have some peace.

 

[nuhuh]

What about the more than 500 Gitmo prisoners George W. Bush released? Can we try him at the Hague first? More than 500 Guantanamo detainees were released or transferred under Bush

"IT'S BUSHES FAULT!!!!! AND YOU'RE A RACIST!!!!!!!"

When the fuck are Democrats going to take responsibility and stop blaming Bush fore EVERY god damned thing? IT has been nearly SEVEN FUCKING YEARS since Bush was in office; cant your Fearless Leader fix a damned thing yet?

Because dummfuk, as far as anyone knows those 500+ terrorists are still out there creating havoc.

Yes, It's Bush's Fault!!! and you're a Bed Wetter

Good news, Tinkerbell! After this year you can start blaming Trump and let Dubya have some peace.

What a clueless dumfuk you must be to think Trump is going anywhere with the support of 35% of 28%. No wonder you idiots wallow in total cluelessness.

 

[theHawk]

Clearly the Hussein is a hero for releasing Islamists. Just ask the lefties here.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What a clueless dumfuk you must be to think Trump is going anywhere with the support of 35% of 28%. No wonder you idiots wallow in total cluelessness.

Moron, he is in the lead nationally in every state except Iowa.

lol, what a retard.